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because we where having a debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
^^^u believe in white jesus so u lost
^ lol i was gonna bring that up earlier
I dont believe JESUS was white ... I believe he was of olive brown complextion like jews and arabs are today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
peace
jews today arent the real jews. and no, he wasn't olive lol. back then niggas lived in that region
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LMAO hahaahahahQuote:
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man, that shit gets me everytime lol
lmao at the subtleness lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
I have noticed you laugh at the olive skin part alot since others have posted it and all you do is laugh ... what dont you believe there are people with olive skin or dark brown skin.... what are mexikanz what are arabs what are some europeans (italians greeks ect...) they all have olive or dark brown skin...you laugh but what so funny ????... unless your living on another planet there are people with olive skin ( the whole world acknowleges that)...and thats what JESUS was...sorry but the world isnt made up of purely black and white ...there is a grey area to and thats where these people fall in....wether you agree or notQuote:
Originally Posted by food for thought
peace
anybody with sense knows Jesus was olive skin. Im Greek, i got dark skin and black hair...Jesus was probably just as dark or even more...but to say he was AFRCAN looking is stupid...he looked like what typical Israelis look like
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Originally Posted by prof zooruka
I love how you guys with a time machine can speak with such authority.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
****awaits verse about Bronze feet (what you guys think I didn't see it coming???)
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yes you are right ! In revalations it describes JESUS as having bronze feet...that means olive skin or dark brown.... not black or white.
peace
ummm......maybe that was selective vision on your part but there's a BRONZE statue that's just a tad bit darker than the dudes posted right above it. (who in no way would ever be confused for a modern-day Arab or Jew)Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
So in conclusion there is simply no way of knowing exactly what Jesus looked like and unless you wanna take us on a ride on a time machine that will always be the case. The only thing we can say for sure is that he definitely didn't look like the image he is most often portrayed to look like. That part is just further proof of the established church's art of manipulation.
muslims generally dont try imagine what a prophet looks like and we cant draw pictures of them or anything so I really haven't got much to commented but for me, the importance lies with the teachings, not the teacher
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shutup convert...nobody takes you serious
haha, just fucken around...but seriously your damned to an eterinity in Hell
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You're gonna get a shock.Quote:
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I think those who believe islam has any chance to save your soul will get the shock.Quote:
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^^^ your church priests are child molestors so u should be the last person talkin about hell
Islam has not the power to do such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
Allah has power over all things.
that is not the church as a whole...those are people who did that...and JESUS taught "not all who call me lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven" ( that verese even says people who do miricals in JESUS name will be told they cant enter the kingdom of heaven) so those people who have done those sort of things like rape and molest children will be punished for what they did on the day of judgement and wont be spared because they believe in christ.Quote:
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p.s.... remember the actions of those people come from there own immorality not the teachings of christianity so to blame the religion is B.S... it has nothing to do with the religion or the teachings ( unlike islam who`s very own teaching command killing and rape and violance)
and those people who have committed crime whilst being in a postion of authourity under the guise of christianity will be pusnished all the more because they have the truth and should have known better.
peace
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
^ No Law, no fair trial? Straight death? Seems violent to me.
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
If I saved up a lot of money, rape a beautiful girl I always wanted, then I can keep her forever>>YAY!
prof zooruka when will you realize that nobody on here believes what your sayin? you sound like one of them cats that go door to door . We heard what you had to say. so why are u still tryin to force shit on people with a BOOK WRITTEN BY HUMANS AFTER THE TIME OF JESUS?
its mostly the way you present it to. it seems like you have no religious tolerance, and you want everybody to worship white jesus, which makes you really gay.
4. Judaism is NATIONAL religion. Therefore It doesn't obligate anyone to its principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Rai
It is not puting its own truth as the ultimate and final
It is meant for the jews and so it does not get in conflicts with other cultures and religions so much.
Judaism never spread its ideas
Even when kingdom of Israel was at its peak...
Judaism just holds it down for itself. For his people. Jews are not forcing their truth over someone elses.
that was the law handed down to the jews.... but we follow the teachings of CHRIST.
peace
and Jesus was a Jew. He did not intend to create a new religion, but serve as Saviour to the Jews and unite the tribes of Judaism.
do a little research buddy...thats old testement...muslims, jews and christians share this book...and as Christians, we follow the updated teachings of Christ (told in the New testament)...so next time you try find fault...look in the NT or words from Jesus...you wont find any.Quote:
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cheers
Matthew 5:17Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
The Fulfillment of the Law
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
^Jesus was Jewish and does not intend to create a new Law. Remember that the New Testament was written many years after his death. So the only Law he knew and followed was the OT.
And? he didnt want to abolish Judaism...only build to it...and forfil it because the OT predicted the comming of a Christ, and that Christ was Jesus.
you have prooved nothing my friend
Then please advise me on the following statement of Jesus is the NT:
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39)
yes JESUS didnt come to do away with the law that was handed to the jews...he wanted the jews to remain jews and believe in him as there messiah ( which is the fulfillment of the law)...but the laws of the jews was not meant for all mankind only the jews.... all those verses you posted from the old testement where given specifically for the jews...them and them only (not for all mankind)...the reason they are given to the jews only is to prepare the house of israel ...to make sure they was read spiritually and morally to except the messiah.... so in other words GOD was making everything up to his standard for the messiah to come.Quote:
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in the new testement..the diciples decided that when it came to converting the gentiles...that they would not have to be subjected to the law of moses and the jews...they where given some simple rules to follow such as... dont eat any animal that has been strangled...dont eat food that has been offered to idols...dont eat any blood...and keep yourself from sexual immorality....those are the only rules given to the gential christ believers...and this is the way GOD wanted it.
peace
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i said the exact same thing to this guy at the beginning of the thread. he didn't want a new religion and he didn't create it so it really is a bs religion
Peace
Please advise me on the following quote of the NT
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39)
i believe that. and the newly created christian religion nullified any other faith by claiming that only through christ comes salvation, meaning thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
all the people who are not christian are doomed and the people of the past...
ATTN: prince rai...please read this post it will explain everything to you.
yes JESUS didnt come to do away with the law that was handed to the jews...he wanted the jews to remain jews and believe in him as there messiah ( which is the fulfillment of the law)...but the laws of the jews was not meant for all mankind only the jews.... all those verses you posted from the old testement where given specifically for the jews...them and them only (not for all mankind)...the reason they are given to the jews only is to prepare the house of israel ...to make sure they was read spiritually and morally to except the messiah.... so in other words GOD was making everything up to his standard for the messiah to come...thats what the jewish religion was made for....for the preperation of the messiah.
in the new testement..the diciples decided that when it came to converting the gentiles...that they would not have to be subjected to the law of moses and the jews...they where given some simple rules to follow such as... dont eat any animal that has been strangled...dont eat food that has been offered to idols...dont eat any blood...and keep yourself from sexual immorality....those are the only rules given to the gential christ believers...and this is the way GOD wanted it...he didnt want them to follow the jewish religion because that was made for a specific people and a specific raeson to prapare them to recieve the messiah but since the messiah had come there was no need for them(gential christians) to follow the jewish law.
peace
prince rai....re read the post above ^^^^^^ i made some changes...but it explains everything.
peace
This is addressing another topic which I have accepted. I still maintain the view that the old laws are still good laws for Jesus, but I also understand that Jesus changed the outlook on much of the old law.Quote:
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This did not even come close to answering the following request I made earlierQuote:
in the new testement..the diciples decided that when it came to converting the gentiles...that they would not have to be subjected to the law of moses and the jews...they where given some simple rules to follow such as... dont eat any animal that has been strangled...dont eat food that has been offered to idols...dont eat any blood...and keep yourself from sexual immorality....those are the only rules given to the gential christ believers...and this is the way GOD wanted it.
peace
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Please advise me on the following statement of Jesus is the NT:
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39)
i understand and agree with the statements you made.Quote:
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but i also want the other NT quote to be addressed.
peace
P.E.A.C.E and Blessings...
Yeah they were really well prepared. What did they do to Jesus again? :?Quote:
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...So did the disciples decide or did God decide?Quote:
in the new testement..the diciples decided that when it came to converting the gentiles...that they would not have to be subjected to the law of moses and the jews...they where given some simple rules to follow such as... dont eat any animal that has been strangled...dont eat food that has been offered to idols...dont eat any blood...and keep yourself from sexual immorality....those are the only rules given to the gential christ believers...and this is the way GOD wanted it...he didnt want them to follow the jewish religion because that was made for a specific people and a specific raeson to prapare them to recieve the messiah but since the messiah had come there was no need for them(gential christians) to follow the jewish law.
peace
And don't eat blood?
"Take and drink, this is my blood..."
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No offence but your religion is a little confusing.
SHEM HETEP
praince rai..... do you understand the jewish religion (laws) where only given for the jews( to prapare everything for the coming of the messiah who would save mankind..GOD had to have a people living according to his standards for the messiah to be sent)...they where never intended to be universal.....GOD chose the jews as his chossen people and said right... through you I will save mankind...but to do that everything must be raedy and perfect for the messiah to come....(because i cant just send him to anyone living the way they want) so he sent the law down to the jews ... so that there would be a race of people who were living according to the will of GOD ...so who by doing that ...would make it acceptable for GOD to send the messiah.
do you understand..????
by you comparing islam to judism ...makes no sense...because islam seeks to impose its harsh draconian laws on man kind...where judism`s laws where set up to pepare for the coming of the messiah ... who would bring the real truth of what GOD want for mankind to reach heaven.... things like "turn the other cheek" "love your neighbour as you love yourself: do unto other as you want them to do for you" this is the real law of GOD ... the other laws ( the jewish religion) where preperation laws to make everything right and acceptable to GOD for him to send the messiah.... but what islam wants to do is replace the teachings of christianity..( the real law of GOD) with those that are like the preperational laws that the jews had...see the jewish law was not what GOD wanted to govern all mankind ( he wanted kindness and love the teachings of christ not harshness and the death penatly) they where only good for the preparation for the coming of the messiah....but islam has taken the preparation laws and is trying to make them superseed that of the real law that GOD wanted wich is what jesus taught...look read this example and you will understand
jewish law (laws passed for the preparation of the people to receive the messiah who will bring the real law which only the messiah would bring).
christianity( the real law of GOD)
islam( copy of the preparation laws to replace the real law which the messiah brought)
undersatnd
anyway
peace
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lol
I already said i understand and accept your points that Jesus would not have taken a radical stance as was taken by the Jews.
LOL, what makes me really laugh is how you will STILL not address this quote for which i will make ANOTHER separate post.