How do you Define GOD?

i think dusk is feeling trapped under the rubble of a crumbling paradigm.
but i don't want to turn this into gen chat so i'll leave it there.

i really enjoyed this thread and the contributions from both sides, specifically rollo, drunken dragon and the usual suspects of course.


i think this is an example of ktl at its best. we hit the topic from all angles from science to philosophy to metaphysics to opinion and emotion. all while being civil yet passionate.


bravo.


i'm gonna rep this whole thread now.

bro are you serious? hahaha omg i love this forum...technically speaking everything ive said makes sense and supports my argument..and this is always the case..but when someone decides they disagree with what im saying, they decide im not making sense cuz they cant combat my logic. im not saying this in a contrived way, but seriously are you guys actually reading?

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what we've been doing all along is trying to correct/adjust each others visions
sometimes that's painful

right, explain to me how that remedies..or even appropriates the proper response.

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Originally Posted by ikke

I'm an atheist but instead of disregarding the concept of god I just looked at the universe for something that fits the definition of god.

As A Result I don't see god as a conscience but rather a name for all the powers that make the universe work.
God is often seen as the overseer & Controller of the universe, this transelates into gravity for example, it makes sure we stay on earth & the earth stays in orbit around the sun so that we hav elife.
Another example is Evolution, it oversees us and often gives what we need to survive.

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the laws of the universe in other words

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Originally Posted by ikke

I'm an atheist but instead of disregarding the concept of god I just looked at the universe for something that fits the definition of god.

As A Result I don't see god as a conscience but rather a name for all the powers that make the universe work.
God is often seen as the overseer & Controller of the universe, this transelates into gravity for example, it makes sure we stay on earth & the earth stays in orbit around the sun so that we hav elife.
Another example is Evolution, it oversees us and often gives what we need to survive.

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missed this post.
i guess i would ask you for a definition of consciousness.

also

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

God, Yahweh, Jah, Allah, Mother Nature, Ausar ....Universe

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Originally Posted by Dusk

right, explain to me how that remedies..or even appropriates the proper response.

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my reply was NOT directed toward you


i don't know what you're sayin

this is a very good build thread but i stopped adding on my wisdom when i saw one too many self righteous replies, ill do the knowledge from afar...

not pointing figures but where the topic of God is concerned, i laugh at anyone who swears "Ive got it all figured out"...

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Originally Posted by DiGitalChamberz

this is a very good build thread but i stopped adding on my wisdom when i saw one too many self righteous replies, ill do the knowledge from afar...

not pointing figures but where the topic of God is concerned, i laugh at anyone who swears "Ive got it all figured out"...

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wouldn't it be better to question the root meaning of the word first
then go into why we are using it today ?

yes... we need to approach things at the root source and build TOGETHER... alot of intelligent minds on here we should combine forces n search for truth together or at least teach each one according to ones level of understanding so that we can ALL at least see where we are ALL coming from and add on... love is love tho

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Originally Posted by DiGitalChamberz

yes... we need to approach things at the root source and build TOGETHER... alot of intelligent minds on here we should combine forces n search for truth together or at least teach each one according to ones level of understanding so that we can ALL at least see where we are ALL coming from and add on... love is love tho

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to get to the roots you gotta dig.
thats what this thread is about, and like sunny said, its sometimes painful.

this topic has so many layers to it and some layers are close to the heart.

but don't let someone's approach discourage you from jumping in. we all have our own modes of operation. passion is healthy, it lets you and others know what beliefs are really yours.

i know we are all diff but personally i enjoy debating someone who really believes passionately in what they are saying cause it forces me to examine what i'm saying and come correct, even reevaluate what i believe.

true indeed... i just hate when i start typing my essays that after a few minutes im signed out n gta copy n paste after signing back in lol

So basically if someone can't see god that means He does not exist ?

In this case, we can't see each other souls, so does it means that we have no soul ?

that wasnt the best example bro..eloels. and no thats not why, in fact i dont think anyone has really resorted to using that argument yet.

we try and force each other to view their walk in life the way we are seeing our own walk

we want everyone to walk our way - even if for a few minutes - we want to be understood and appreciated - accepted - we want to live - we'll doubt that we are this way though


HellSpawn - sometimes we have to have things pointed out to us before we can see it
but to be so sure of something we've never seen, to fight and shed blood over what we believe is there is insane - the book says it's there - we have a choice whether to believe what the book is saying or not -

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS

HellSpawn - sometimes we have to have things pointed out to us before we can see it
but to be so sure of something we've never seen, to fight and shed blood over what we believe is there is insane - the book says it's there - we have a choice whether to believe what the book is saying or not -

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I aint tryin to convince no one, I been here since 2003 and never seen someone being convinced :)

how can one be convinced of what they say they believe in ?

they are convinced that what they believe is reality

convinced of a belief

i'm learning to look at all my beliefs and not be so convinced they exist

and to treat it as a belief and not fact

this helps me from looking at people as stupid infidel sinners

i'm still a nut - no doubt - but i'm working on it

word sometimes u have to have the patience to watch a flower grow dealing with people and the different currents they come in

Hopefully we all have the same objective ;)

i don't see why not.. shouldn't it be to teach he/her who does not know? so that they may be able to save themselves and then others, n then others n then others? it should be a chain effect i think. but mind you the whole total population isn't reachable or salvageable.. doubt well get back to Eden without weeding out a few bad apples, but you do your part nonetheless, regardless to whom or what you show n prove your power.

The problem is this is a double challenge ; you want to save a few souls and keep the other side from growin up. If you identify this last one you'll realize that a final confrontation is inevitable on earth (I know alot of people on the Corp know the deal). The dark side is as active as us if not more because they have very important measures.

uh, well said.

well im not saying be capt save a hoe and walk around like the Book of Eli either lol but you know what im saying and what i meant lol.. im not necessarily talking about armies of darkness battling the forces of light on sum final battle cgi Legion shit idk if i can handle actually seeing some crazy shit like that lol but i cee where u coming from bruh ;) i too feel that somethings on the horizon...

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Originally Posted by STYLE

missed this post.
i guess i would ask you for a definition of consciousness.

also

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

God, Yahweh, Jah, Allah, Mother Nature, Ausar ....Universe

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Words and names and letters are powerful. And how right you were on how trying to manifest ill_ll! intended thoughts can backfire. Wouldn't you agree?

Excellent build yo!!!

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it would be better if people would have asked more fundamental questions before they asked "how do you define God?"

questions such as "Is a god necessary?" "Why is a god necessary" "can god be defined?" etc

i think god is just a clumsy thought and a clumsy word.

this thread is so beautiful

I don't believe in a big man in the sky, judging our actions, condemning us to hell if we fuck up (which coincidently is what i was raised to believe). There is no sin, just choices and consequences that result in you living a good life or a life of shit. To me. God is neither he or she or an actual being that knows itself exists. God is ultimatly inexplicable but it's whatever put us here. Whatever caused existance to exist. Esentially, in that sense, we wouldn't be here without God.

God is here! ,,,drunk,,,
pEACE

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Originally Posted by DVSK

he gave us free will because he doesnt exist...so we can do whatever we want anyway..

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Originally Posted by STYLE

on the wave of human development, we are in the bottom of the trough, atheism is proof of that.

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haha you're the worst gavin.

we are our own gods.

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^^ for those who believe in some other being; being god.. where would he fit in? in the known light spectrum? or anti matter/dark matter realities?(other dimensions)

^^^both !

rainbow around the moon ! perception.

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Originally Posted by soul controller

we are our own gods.

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^^ for those who believe in some other being; being god.. where would he fit in? in the known light spectrum? or anti matter/dark matter realities?(other dimensions)

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hell yeah!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

i forgot who i was talking to this about on here - but we mentioned that maybe god works through multiple faculties
maybe that 'information dimension' IS god?
formless...and being the information and foundation of all things in existence

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Do you believe in emanation?

Emanation, from the Latin emanare meaning "to flow from" or "to pour forth or out of", is the mode by which all things are said to be derived from the First Reality, or Principle. All things are said to be derived from the first reality or perfect God by steps of degradation to lesser degrees of the first reality or God, and at every step the emanating beings are less pure, less perfect, less divine.