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Originally Posted by 4-Bar Killer
because they are making him play more defense than he usually does. lampard and gerrard are the same player. except gerrard is better. lennon should be playing instead of becks too.
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Originally Posted by 4-Bar Killer
because they are making him play more defense than he usually does. lampard and gerrard are the same player. except gerrard is better. lennon should be playing instead of becks too.
I know, but Gerrard has before shown that he can step up and actually be a playmaker. He couldn't do that yesterday against a team that's worse than the teams he usually plays against. If he doesn't step up against Sweden I'm pretty worried.. Lampard didn't do bad, he just didn't have precision. At least he created something.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
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Originally Posted by chiba
yeah robinho needs more of a game. he is underappreciated at real also.
Cissé finally signed to Marseille, should be back on fields in 5 months.
Good news for Cisse, I hooe the guy comes back as he's capable of being a class act.
As for England, I had an idea that Steven Gerrard might get the shit for them playing bad, even though Lampard missed 4 sitters, and Stevie had 1 clear shot and puts it away..so he played shit eh?
If England want to play better then Lampard needs to stop thinking he's in a Chelsea shirt, as he can't bogart all the shots like he does at club level. Besides Lampard's performance in front of goal, England did ok against a side with 11 men behind the ball. Can't do much against damage limitation, after all.
take off lamps?? are you mad, the only person to put in the holdin role is hargreaves and if you think hargreaves should be on instead of one of the only pople to threaten their keeper last nite your mad
Shooting straight at a goalkeeper isn't what i'd call threatening. People give Lamps far more credit than he deserves at times. Sure, he's a great player, but his shot to goal ratio is pretty piss poor. He'll take a good dozen shots when in a Chelsea shirt and maybe score 1. He's trying too hard to be the next Paul Scholes, and that ain't gonna happen.
I still think Gerrard and Lampard have a lot to offer as a pairing, but Lamps needs to do a bit more holding, as he is certainly capable of it (it's how his game originally developed at West Ham). I still don't know why I'm even mentioning it, anyone who thinks Lampard had a good game yesterday might wanna switch to Rugby or something.
These english dudes are definitely spoiled kids, damn if France team played like that I wouldn't complain lol.
argentina's second goal is huge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wohoo, Argentina is shitting on Serbia Montenegro, 3-0 after 40 minutes.. I just hopes that Riquelme and Crespo scores..
word, I thought England played well, esp. Beckham and Gerrard.Quote:
Originally Posted by WU-KILLAH
the only problem was that the strikers were missing ALL their chances.
Crouch was fuckin abysmal and Owen wasn't much better.
The rest of the team played quite well imo.
Argentina is IMPRESSIVE that second goal is my new favorite ... Crespo's yellow card is a shame, and he scored another amazing goal that has been stolen. Argentina will go far for sure.
yeah they looked good, but the opposition needs to be considered.
serbia had the best defense of europe's qualifications
it's a huge performance
watever man, messi and tevez lookd good in tandem.
a defence that was based around Vidic, who hasn't played yet in the world cup, and looks unlikely to, due to injury. so that stat doesn't mean alot to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moctezuma
still, Argentina do look one of the best teams in the tournament so far.
defo potential winners.
argentina raped serbia, the second goal was amazing. messi and tevez look really good. i said they were my favourites. they play amazing football. fantastic game. good to see maradona as well, his a real fan. your never gonna see pele ever do that celebrate like a mad man. i would like to see argentina field a full strength side against the dutch, and play their best. if they rout the dutch then it would be clear to say argentina are the best team in the tournament.
did u guys see the replay of crouch's goal against trinidad. definet foul it was, he pulled the trinidad players hair.
first half of holland and ivory coast was a barn burner. nice golasimos.
BAM Portugal in the 8's... Angola has to do it too
P.E.A.C.E.
nice win for ghana. coulda been 5-0 if they werent so damn impatient.
yes they could have scored more . They've been the most impressive african team, I really wish them to qualify.
ghana win, they could have won by a big difference but they were impatient. any other team would have punished the czechs for their poor defending. good win for ghana though, it atleast makes one of the groups interesting.
Man, that Italy - USA game was nuts. 3 men sent off, deary me
Ghana, great game, great footballl. They needed a little bit more coldness when they were in the face of the goal... it could have been a historical result
P.E.A.C.E.
The Aussies were a bit unlucky there.
yeah i thought that it was for the most part even. shame kewel and viduka couldnt convert.anyway no one expected them to win so its not entirely bad.
australia is gonna upset alot of teams
they will go far in this world cup
what did you think of the japan Vs croatia game?
French played better than vs Swiss ... at least they fought tonight.
But we are supposed to win easely vs South Korea what a shame.
At the same time we're unlucky : we lose Cissé just before the World Cup starts, there is a goal that has been stopped with a hand of a defensor when we played swiss, and we scored two goals vs South Korea but one was stolen ... anyway that's not an excuse we're supposed to destroy teams like Korea so we get what we deserve.
they need to get out of the group stage first.Quote:
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Originally Posted by WU-KILLAH
that coach is nutts not playing trez, idk what he is thinking.
Trezeguet and Henry won't play up front together for some reason or other, shame really. I don't really like Domenech either, Tigana or Metsu shoulda got the job
i don't think they fought... they're not humble. they scored, and then what ?
makelele is still the best player of that team. but vieira is useless beside him. he's predictable when he passes, he can't shoot (what the hell ! can't his guy aim at the goal for once... just for once !) and he can't even tackle anymore. i don't know what happened to him, but he's the weakest point of the team. he used to be impressive.
The coach is the coach, he should be putting his best players out there. If they got some beefaroni going he should make them squash it. No ones bigger than the team and its just hurting everyone.Quote:
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Originally Posted by illstatiq.
japan had soo many chances
i think zico should put in ono and oguro
for next match
inamoto finally played today!!
i had a feeling france would either tie or lose to korea
nobodys a push over in this world cup
the underdogs have alot of potential
brazil
well these guys are tryin to hard to make hollywood goals
just friggen put the ball in the back of the net
& dont be fancy about it
peace
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Originally Posted by whitey
yea that's crazy ... especially when he finally make him enter during extratime :? , damn if he had to enter then make him enter at least 30 mn before the end of the match .
then they scored a second goal (the ball clearly entered)... it would have been a whole different story with 2-0 . But it is true we shouldn't depend of the mistakes the referee can make.Quote:
i don't think they fought... they're not humble. they scored, and then what ?
yeah ok about the second goal. i really think henry got robbed against switzerland too.
but... too many times, french players stop and wait for the ref to blow the whistle. i mean, that's not the fighting spirit. they should just play and if the whistle blows, good, if not, too bad, but let's keep playing.
Ribéry pissed me off about that against switzerland. he was a bit tougher yesterday, but still, he did that a few times again.
and sorry, i'm pissed at Vieira. really. how come a professional player can miss the exact same shoot all the time ?????? right in front of the goal, just on the line of the area... perfect pass and booooooooom, right in the sky.
and defensively, technically, he gets owned by Makelele...
the world cup is nuts im farkin lovin it, havent they scored almost the same amount of goals now as the entire last world cup or sumtin? 2 things, not ruining it, but hampering it
1) refereeing has been all over the shop, too many trigger happys refs going bananas with yellow and red cards, they went like almost a week without a penalty then had penalties in 5 games in a row or somthin
2) this ball is bonkers, everyone scoring from outside the box crazy shit, 3/4 of the goals in the tournament are contenders for goal of tournmanent, which is good in a way, but in a way takes a bit of art away
markus merk :no: :cop:
see, no one every thought wed play good, no one ever wants in world cups, and yeh we didnt get a result against brazil,a certain goal lookd to be a bit offside and none of the 50/50s went our but theres no excuses we didnt score so didnt deserve to win, but damn we played pretty fuckin good against the world champions, and for most part against japan,i hope we dont freeze up and play granny football against croats,coz if we play like we did against brazil & japan we shud get a result,well done boys :clap:
and maybe we seen the last of zizou with his suspension, if so, great career, but deserves a better exit than a repeat of 2002 performance
somebody said ghana would of won 5-0 if they werent so impatient, ghana would of won 5-0 if czechs had any other goalkeeper bar peter cech, that guy kept his team in the hunt, early contender for solo performance of the tournament for mine
up until popovic was forced off the australians looked defnesively strong, but then hiddink had to bring on bresciano which kind of weakened defense. it would have been better if aussies had been able to make that substitution in the last 20 or so mins and then have a crack at brazil.