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to many guns not enough books. you can have all the guns and the books and the world if your not using them they'll have no impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
neither guns nor books is a problem. guns don't just go off, and books don't just open.
war is only one way of maintaining power, not the only way, nor is it the major way, but it is a way.
do you know what caused the depression?
minimum wage is not slavery! you should really learn what slavery is. minimum wage is a good thing (how they work it, may be a lil shady however it's not a bad thing). at the very least, you know every job is "supposed" to pay this said amount. nothing wrong with that. making min. wage in california is different from making min. wage in nebraska.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
i know you said, "in a sense" but how do you explain the same thing happening with the same group of people before there was such a thing called hiphop....i mean, it didn't start until the late 70's and how the schools are today, they were like that before hiphop (i guess hiphop is the new scapegoat like 30 is the new 20). and when i say the schools, i'm also including what the student body does...their actions.Quote:
You are right in a sense that some of those suburban black kids are pressured by the hip-hop culture (that they do not live) that they realize they are black in a white population so that makes them cool. But instead of being "cool" they act like the egotistic rapper which that rapper acts like a hustler, thug, whatever.
Alright Black Man i get your point. You're right. You can't judge a book by it's cover. Rappers shouldn't have a dress code because music artists don't have a dress code anyway. Your right that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the NAACP aren't reaching blacks in the ghetto and they aren't talking to them to ask them why do they act the way they do. If black politicians want blacks in the ghetto to change, you have to go to the ghetto and talk to these people instead of just dissing them at a public forum. At least Bill Cosby has made a effort to go to bad schools in the ghettos across america to speak to the black youth.
Black Man you're also right for questioning Tuco about the comment he made about hispanics that are illegal citizens in america do more than blacks that are legal citizens. I don't see hispanics doing more than blacks. Some of them are doing better than ignorant blacks and that's because they stay stick together and save their money. Most blacks don't stick together and we don't save money. One thing i notice about hispanics is that they don't wanna learn to speak english and they think it's ok for them to speak their language and get a job and not learn to speak english so they can communicate with americans on the job. I have some female hispanic co-workers at my job and one of them has complained to me several times that she wants a better job because she's tired of doing housekeeping work but she doesn't speak english well. Her supervisor is a female hispanic and she told me that the girl didn't finish high school and she doesn't read and talk spanish well. That's terrible. Well i guess she'll be a housekeeper the rest of her life because it seems to me that she isn't trying to educate herself and learn english so she can get a better job. She got a better car than i do and she has a house in a nice neighborhood so she's getting over on the system to me because it's not right that she can come to america and get those things when she doesn't speak english well. I don't like how the government treats foreigners better than blacks. Foreigners who come to america need to be forced to learn to speak english if they expect to become a american citizen and get a job.
I see what your saying but what i'm saying is that nobody should be worked like a slave on their job and these jobs i mentioned, the employees are working like slaves because the work is hard labor. I used to work at several factories and a warehouse before and i didn't like those jobs because the work was hard and i got paid shitty money.
Yes that is a weaker point because I said "in a sense" and "some of those suburban black kids"...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
It does take assumptions and an understanding of attitudes from experience as well as knowing who is and who is not what they first seem. As far as that goes, saying "hip-hop is a negative influence especially to black suburban kids" is something that cannot be proven the way it is questioned.
The other assumption for the black kids in the white schools before the late 70s is the stereotypical "traditional parents" that everyone had (black and white) in that type of community that were said to be stricter and discipline their kids more. So then we could even go into the other argument if stronger "abusive" discipline works better.
But of course if there is a way to guarantee that the actions were the same with the same group more than 30 years ago as much as today, it could easily disprove that whole point. But of course there were underachievers in that specific group 30 years ago.
Thats why it is only "in a sense".....and explaining what happened before can either complicate things more and/or it can prove/disprove the whole point.
The same thing applies to the rural areas of my state which have similar characteristics, yet its white back woods red necks. Luckily theres people like me who are ahead of the curve and will hopefully be implementing WiMax base stations in the next couple of years so the disconnected get with the program and have access to the vast information which we all take for granted.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigben
Yes Prolifical ENG i do believe peer pressure causes black youth in the ghetto to be ignorant because most people act like they don't have a mind of their own and they wanna do what the cool/ignorant people are doing so they can fit in and be accepted. I'd rather be uncool and follow my own lead rather than follow a ignorant person's lead to fit in. Some more comments Guru made on Conspiracy song that i agree with is when he said that you can't tell me that life was meant to be like this, a world totally dominated by whiteness. Ever since the Declaration of Inpendence, we've been brainwashed with just one sentence that says all people are created equal. That's why corrupt government kill innocent people. Then he said that white people want blacks to join the military, lock us up and they wanna ban rap. What they really wanna do is get rid of us blacks.
I agree that hard work should pay good money though that usually isn't the case. Seems to me like the work itself isn't the problem but the rate of pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
No i disagree. I think the problem is the job position and the salary.
CCC my cusins in that shit and he cant stand it
http://www.ccc.ca.gov/
Hard labor on a job is hard labor. No matter how you look at it. I realize that these jobs i named have to exist. I just don't like how the supervisors at these jobs demand too much from the employees when the work is hard. Since supervisors wanna demand too much from the employees, then they need to start paying a lot more money and they aren't gonna do that. One time i worked at a window warehouse and the company made windows and delivered windows. My job was to lift windows off a truck and me being a skinny person, i didn't like the job because the windows were too heavy for me to lift so i quit the job after a few hours. My supervisor had the nerve to tell me that since i couldn't handle a job like that, i wasn't gonna be able to handle any job. I wanted to tell him fuck you and fuck your slavery job. I was getting paid a shitty salary. My salary i think was like $6.50 or $7 a hour.
you think people sitting in office buildings dont work hard? Thats why you get an education and dont act like a fool, so youre not doing manual labor for a shitty wage. Dont act like a slave and you wont be treated like a slave.
*edit* i didnt notice you put office work in your original post, what kind of work dont you consider slavery?
A job by definition is something you do of your own free will for money. IT is something you can walk away from. Slavery by definition is something you are forced to do by somebody else, against your will, and is something you cannot walk away from. Therefore no job is slavery. they are mutually exclusive definitions.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones