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during the times of slavery (when it was blatent to all) the slave had a job to do, yet he did not get paid wages, nor was it his will to perform these jobs, yet these jobs got done by people who were known as slaves, and these slaves had jobs they were forced to do and they did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Cumstain
"Devil got you fuckin dumb slaves thinkin you free, you ain't even alive your mind just supports your 9-5" - Jus Allah
All jobs are slavery. It amazes me that so few people have stopped to think about why we dedicate practically 5/7ths of a free waking life to the pursuit of money! Most of the time we just do it coz everyone else does.
In 80 years I will be dead most likely. Is that how I want to spend my life? I am trying to find ways around it.
No one has to work that much, it shouldn't be that hard. We really have been made slaves...
^ slaves to routine
u been made slaves cuz u chose to be
u have the freedom to chose what u want
so y not do it
i work 7-3 every day ..i love it
y becouse with out it i would just sit home intill the afternoon
so y not make money
u would rather be the one begging for food
then work
if u chose begging insted of employment..i laff at u
talking bout how jobs a slave thing..but then ur wearing ur new nikes supporting it still
lol
Ive worked in all these areas except janitorial work and I dont really think they are slave jobs. I actually enjoyed the construction gig, I was workin with a good friend and the day went mad fast, we would even blaze up sometimes at lunch break.. I also used to drive a delivery truck for a pharmacy deliverin prescription to nursing homes and hospitals, that shit was fun to me.. I got to drive around jammin music with nobody tellin me what to do, sometimes I would go to my crib an sleep when shit wasnt busy lol... The office jobs Ive had are just boring and time goes mad slow, personally Id rather be actively doin ish than jus sittin in a desk all day.. Right now I work at a factory assemblin cargo nets, shit sounds wack, but its actually aiight cause the people I work with are chill (plus the money is good).. That is the key.. most jobs are gonna suck in some way, its just how ya make it the best possible..Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
Of course none of these jobs are long-term, hopefully I graduate soon so I can get my career jumpin off..
the thing in this world is that you have to make money. There's no way around that one especially if you have others counting on you. You very well may find a way around the normal routine of making money (starting your own business, artistic endeavors etc) and more power to you if you succeed but bottom line, we're all in the paper chase.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies
you do have the choice
what people dont realize is that the workers have all the power, without the worker the owners wouldnt have anything to sell, but the working trap themselves in a system that makes it so that they have to work in order to get the small amount of pay they get for what they make
and hard labour fucking sucks man, thats another thread completely lol
anyways, if you looks at it, a worker in a day may get a 1 000 000 worth of business done for the owner and only get about 90 bucks, the system is fucked, but thats capitalism, if someone is willing to do shit work for shit pay then take advantage of it
if you want change you're going to have to change too
most people would, they just dont realize they are being fucked
if people were able to separate themselves from materialism, everyone could go about their own shit and grow their own food, make their own clothes, and take care of their own livestock and not ever have to "work", but most people could never give up what the system is currently giving them to do this
of course there are other solutions, but the bottom-line is that until we make cyborgs to do hard labour, there will always be a need for people to do hard ass work to be living the way the world is living now, the pay rate can be changed though to make those people better compensated, but if they got paid too much, they would retire too early, but then the demand for the job would also go higher, so the system might still work, the employers just need to be willing to cut their own pay to do this which they probably wont as long as they get away with it, but the real result of labourers gettin paid more cant be predicted until it actually occurs
o.s.
peace
Construction aint slavery. People are begging to get into unions. Any hard labor NON UNION job could be 'slavery like'.
I know from experience. I been a landscaper 10 years since I was 14 and got really nuthing to show. No pension, no healthcare, no sick days, no overtime. I work for family and my uncle is well off. Its kinda messed up but its how it is. No employee has their own house, and all are paycheck to paycheck literallly. But he has two houses, a condo in florida, timeshare in Cancun, three cars....etc.
Its messed up, and just recently we found out we are getting this place that has 132 houses in it...He claims raises but it wont happen. Landscaping is close to slavery.
CharlesJones you smallminded greedy bitch. There are child slaves in 2/3 of the world and you're bitching about having a job? Fuck you. Fuck you sitting at your faggot ass computer when most of the world has never made a phone call in their life. You fucking bitch. Go choke dude. Really. You have to get your head together right now. You are so fucking lucky and you waste it.
*snuggle*
Come on man, there's no job slavery. My family's plantation went out of business after slavery ended.
like one of my old bosses used to say when someone complains at work. ask them if they applied for that job. 100% of them will say yes. any job that pays and people apply for disqualifies that job as slavery,
now on the other hand if u were forced onto a boat and traveled a few thousand miles to be whipped, renamed, and forced to do work with no pay.that just might be considered slavery
and by the way, janitors aint a glorious job but youd be real surprised what some custodians make, i know a couple and shit, one works in a school and that muthafucka gets awesome benefits, holidays off and decent pay, shit that muthafucka is FAR from a slave, push a big broom and a XL mop down a hallway
that shit is fuckin simple, you actin like they pickin cotton in hot sun with bare feet for 2 cent a day
that's exactly how i see it. working & most of that schooling is a waste of time, it's fucked up what the world has come to, the system is draining your life i would never waste my time like that i would rather smoke myself to death before i be part of that system, it's like the matrix but the sad thing is it has to exsistQuote:
Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies
This isn't a white black issue, its more of a industrialized nation issue. Its a socio-economical issue that started when factory's opened up and people no longer worked for landowners and lived on their land or owned their own land...instead they sold their labor for wages. Capitalism. Its a result of the progression of the modern world.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies
All you have to do is look at the history. Its right there, plain as day. Its something Marx and Engels predicted in the communist manifesto....And alot of what they predicted is true, but not all of it.
Again, we have to reach that happy medium, but in a cash based society its hard to control greed. Shit forget cash based, its hard to control greed anyway.
America is as good as its middle class...that happy medium again, the balance between poor and rich. The safety net for the rich, and the stepladder within reach for the poor.
Unfortunately with todays high prices on just about everything, the rich are getting richer, the poor poorer and the middle class is shrinking....Marx predicted it was inevitable. And from this class wars persist...