I never made an arguement based on his career rating. He has imroved drastically. Btw, he is more of a winner than all of those guys put together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Vandelay
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I never made an arguement based on his career rating. He has imroved drastically. Btw, he is more of a winner than all of those guys put together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Vandelay
Ehhh..I dunno. Jay Fiedler had some good years with the Fins.
Oh and BTW Humphries didn't he lead the Chargers to a Super Bowl?
And I do believe the 92 Chargers are the only team to start 0-4 and make the playoffs.
It was the 94 chargers. Watched that dickhead throw that td pass to alfred popunu at 3 rivers. Worst loss I've ever witnessed
Yes it was the 94 team that went.
But the 92 team also made the playoffs.
And are the only team ever to go to the playoffs after starting 0-4.
I think "VY" has a little more work to do.
qb rating or mvp's have nothing to do w/it.its all about the ring @ the end of the season.
Yeah, they probably should have canned Kubiak. Not to say he's a terrible coach; there are plenty of worse ones out there. Kubiak can sure as hell put together talent through the draft and such too. But when Bill Cowher said he'd coach the Texans, I was ready for Kubiak to be let go right then and there. Fisher is a damn good coach, but I'd take Cowher over Fisher, especially with the defense that the Texans have slowly put together.Quote:
Originally Posted by GZAjector
He's totally right; Vince Young did have the highest passer rating. I know there's a lot of arguments against VY, but the reality is that on the field, he's more than half-decent. Just because he's an emotional bitch off the field doesn't mean he's not a good QB, and that's the problem Fisher had. He would rather view VY for his off-field issues than for his on-field performance. There's QBs better than VY, but I'd take him over probably any QB that isn't on the upper-tier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baraka Bombah
Throwin this out there, I'm sick of Kyle Orton getting bashed; that guy played for Chicago for fuck's sake. Of course he wasn't gonna be a motherfucking hero there, not throwing to the people he was throwin to. And he turned Brandon Marshall into one of the best receivers in the league this year, if not considered the best, statistically. He's a lot better than people give him credit for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Vandelay
Yeah, it is all about the ring. But the point is, Vince did a good job at his position this year. You can't try to argue that Tom Brady's 2007 season was nothing just cause he didn't finish with a ring. He set a bunch of records that year and went 16-0. Success is surely measured in Lombardis, but not strictly. If records didn't matter we wouldn't care so damn much about them. Plus the media wouldn't have made such a big deal about Favre not getting to 300.Quote:
Originally Posted by battle?
Don't even try to talk sense into Tooch. If we actually dug up the stat that showed that Young led the NFL in QB rating, he just wouldn't comment on it. He will run off at the mouth about how ridiculous it is for me to say that, and call me a "fucking idiot" and then when he's proven wrong he'll ignore it and talk about Super Bowls. The guy actually claims VY got Fisher fired!!!! It has been proven beyond any doubt that Jeff Fisher would rather play Collins and lose than play Young and win, and the Titans are wrong for firing him? Lol! I guess the Titans are stupid for wanting to win. some of it is probably the fact that he is in fact the idiot, and then you have the fact that he's a Browns fan to screw up his football logic further.Quote:
Originally Posted by The XZA
Browns fans are actually some of the most passionate fans in the WORLD. Do you even know about "The Ohio League"? VY has a lot to prove and the bottom line is -- THE BOOK AIN'T CLOSE ON VINCE YET. If he retires next year; HE'LL BE A FOOTNOTE AT BEST.
i'd take vince young over mcnabb in a heartbeat. actually i would take him over every single redskins qb since mark rypien. but that's not to say that he's even that good, although in his own mind he is a future hall of famer.
he must of meant college hall of fame.
That's not saying much. Because Rypien WAS your last good QB. And you would take Vince now over McNabb present or Vince now over McNabb past, present, future? To me McNabb has had ten times the career... and in his prime? Shit I'd take McNabb ten times outta ten over Young.
i mean right now of course.
but all of mcribs best days as an eagle mean nothing to me because i hated his guts then. i gave him the benefit of the doubt when he became a redskin, but i still hate him. just like when jeff hostetler became a redskin, sorry ass moustache.
i hope they draft a qb who isn't cam newton
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Originally Posted by The XZA
no i can argue tom bradys season was nothing because he didnt finish.
we did rise a 16-0 banner @ foxboro that i was @ , but not having the trophy there means nothing
an being a patriot fan i can tell u stats meen nothing an it is all about the bling!!
people that r pats fans talk about the blings way more than the stats..
Hahah Jeff Hostetler. JEA!