Soccer

Before the season you know everyone thought getting rid of Suarez was a bad idea but we didn't want to see it that way as Liverpool fans being positive and everything but you can't give up your only world class talent and expect to win the premiership. Fine we bought some decent players but we talking world class player there aint many of them around, if you have one even if he biting everyone you keep that bastard.

We are lucky in that everyone else is dropping points to so if the team improves which they will i think theres still a decent chance. I don't even give a crap about Champions league Liverpool need that premiership title.

More than happy with a top 4 position tbh. I think that showing that Liverpool are able to maintain the position as a top club is the most important for the future, and a top 4 position is good enough for that imo. Especially if we can win a cup and do somewhat well in CL.


What a fuking match that was btw. That penalty shoot-out is the freakiest thing I've seen in quite awhile.

Pretty good stuff tbf.

Lol at the Serbia-Albania game. I do have to commend whoever flew the flying flag into the stadium fucking genius. Shit was bound to kick off though.

On the Euro qualifiers, even though Germany, Spain and Holland are dropping points because of the new rules I don't think they give a shit they will all still qualify. The good teams are just not taking it seriously as its harder to not go through. Holland might be in a little trouble though cause that group is fucked with Iceland and the Czechs both on 9 points and the Dutch only on 3.

Now let me come to fucking Turkey, we aint gonna qualify again already thrown in the towel and we just 3 games in, since 2004 where we didn't qualify for that tournament we have supposedly been rebuilding but have got nothing to show for it. A country of 80million in addition to all the Turkish players you can pick from various European countries yet we have zero talent. Terim is a fucking cunt, shit manager most overrated piece of shit ever. His tactics are atrocious, squad selection is just fucking awful, and his ego is out of this world, he makes Mourihno look fucking humble.

The players are disgustingly bad, they can't even beat fucking Latvia. The players who play in the Bundesliga aka the German Turks don't want to play for the team. Many made injury excuses and didn't turn up. This week before the Czech game we find out another player Gokhan Tore pulled a gun on two players Omer Toprak and Hakan Calhanoglu (2 Leverkusen players). He pulled a fucking gun! and guess who Fatih Terim decided to defend? The guy who pulled the gun, he said in press conferences that certain players will never play for the national team again. Muthafucka two of your players get a gun pointed at them a year ago, the issue has obviously not been resolved and you say those who didn't turn up because they were threatened with a gun are not welcome on the team? what fucking planet are you on?

Turkish football is dead, fans don't go to games, the stadiums are empty, people have completely lost trust in the game. Match fixing goes unpunished, racism goes unpunished, a player threatening to have a journalist killed goes unpunished. Clubs have huge debt, a rich businessman becomes a chairman of his favourite club, he runs it into the ground and then fucks off. In fact the club owes the businessman money because he goes and buys players with his own money but as he doesn't own the club its a loan so he gets his money back with interest. Thats Turkish football, its run by complete morons.

I could rant for days.

^ at first I thought that was one of the cameras (that film the game overhead) malfunctioned.

I dunno why FIFA sets up these grudge matches
whats next russia vs ukrane ? North Korea vs South Korea
its great entertainment I admit ut i prefer the rivalries like
Brazil vs Argentina, Germany vs Holland, USA vs Mexico, Portugal Vs Spain,
Turkey vs Greece, England Vs France etc

lol @ platini saying that those drones can carry a bomb
It would have to be a very big done

Turkey lost 2 good players in Ozil and Khedra to Ze Germans
Theres alot of tueks in Germany

Sami Khedira is Tunisian heritage not Turkish and both Sami Khedira and Mesut Özil are german born and raised, how are either lost to Germany? Even Klose and Podolski are born in Poland but went to Germany young and played all of their football in German teams.

UEFA are fucking stupid. They won't allow Armenia vs Azerbaijan, Russia v Georgia and hilariously won't allow Spain v Gibraltar but they let Serbia play everyone? It's stupid. Israel is basically in UEFA because they basically can't play anyone in the AFC Gulf.

South Korea and North Korea were in in the same group in the 2010 WC qualifying but I don't think the North Korea home game was played there think it was in China or somewhere else

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Originally Posted by The Hound

Sami Khedira is Tunisian heritage not Turkish and both Sami Khedira and Mesut Özil are german born and raised, how are either lost to Germany?

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lost to the ze germans in a sense where their parents left for a better life in Germany:Y. Theres a ton of Turks that immigrated to Germany.
Regardless even if ozil did have the choice between choosing turkey or germany
he wouldve picked Germay as they are more accomplishd.

i didnt know Giblartar had a team till last week or so.:beer:

Yeah, Nah. Born and raised in Germany they're not lost to anybody.

With Turks its different. If you go to Germany out of all the immigrants the Turks are the least integrated. We refuse to integrate because it feels like your betraying the motherland. I am in the same position as someone like Ozil, 3rd generation born and raised in Europe. However you generally feel closer to Turkey. In Germany because Turks aren't allowed duel citizenship (everyone else is), that means the players have to pick which citizenship to have to. If the players choose Turkey they are stripped of German citizenship, you can be as close as you want to Turkey but a Turkish passport is fucking useless, especially for a footballer because as you are considered non-EU your listed as a foreign player on teams which play in leagues where there is a limit on non-EU foreign players.

Ozil knew this and he made the right choice. If he picked Turkey I can guarantee he wouldn't even be a starter for the national team because the team is picked by nut jobs. Nuri Sahin would have been a world star if he picked Germany, when he was 17 he was the best player in his age group in the world. He picked Turkey and plays out of position whenever he gets a chance to play which is rare. Gokhan Inler the Swiss captain was told by coaches in Turkey he wasn't good enough for the national side. He is now miles better than any Turkish midfielder. Now more and more German-Turks pick Germany as they know its better for their career, just last year I think in some under 17 tournament 7 of the starters for Germany were of Turkish origin. In 10 years time half the German team will be of Turkish origin.

As the good players are now picking Germany Turkey has fallen apart. In the early 2000's we had a solid side thanks to guys like Basturk, Ilhan Mansiz, and a whole lot. All Germany born and raised they picked Turkey and Turkey reaped the benefits. Now though things have changed. In Turkey everyone is asking the question 'we have 80million people yet can't even create a national side with 11 Turkish born players'. Huge problems in Turkey's youth system, plus they relied too much on Germany. Its wrong at the end of the day, the Germans raise them and the Turks take them off. A lot of players are eligible for Turkey, even Albanians and Bosnians as they would have some odd family connection with Turkey. Adnan Janujaj was and a whole lot of others. In football they don't pick Turkey but in basketball it happens a lot as most of Turkey's basketball players are of Bosnian origin.

Tonights champions league was insane. 36 goals or something a record and fucking Bayern destroyed Roma. Fair enough Bate Borisov is a shit team so Shakhtar raping them is no surprise but 7 against Roma? just wow.

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Originally Posted by HANZO

With Turks its different. If you go to Germany out of all the immigrants the Turks are the least integrated. We refuse to integrate because it feels like your betraying the motherland. I am in the same position as someone like Ozil, 3rd generation born and raised in Europe. However you generally feel closer to Turkey. In Germany because Turks aren't allowed duel citizenship (everyone else is), that means the players have to pick which citizenship to have to. If the players choose Turkey they are stripped of German citizenship, you can be as close as you want to Turkey but a Turkish passport is fucking useless, especially for a footballer because as you are considered non-EU your listed as a foreign player on teams which play in leagues where there is a limit on non-EU foreign players.

Ozil knew this and he made the right choice. If he picked Turkey I can guarantee he wouldn't even be a starter for the national team because the team is picked by nut jobs. Nuri Sahin would have been a world star if he picked Germany, when he was 17 he was the best player in his age group in the world. He picked Turkey and plays out of position whenever he gets a chance to play which is rare. Gokhan Inler the Swiss captain was told by coaches in Turkey he wasn't good enough for the national side. He is now miles better than any Turkish midfielder. Now more and more German-Turks pick Germany as they know its better for their career, just last year I think in some under 17 tournament 7 of the starters for Germany were of Turkish origin. In 10 years time half the German team will be of Turkish origin.

As the good players are now picking Germany Turkey has fallen apart. In the early 2000's we had a solid side thanks to guys like Basturk, Ilhan Mansiz, and a whole lot. All Germany born and raised they picked Turkey and Turkey reaped the benefits. Now though things have changed. In Turkey everyone is asking the question 'we have 80million people yet can't even create a national side with 11 Turkish born players'. Huge problems in Turkey's youth system, plus they relied too much on Germany. Its wrong at the end of the day, the Germans raise them and the Turks take them off. A lot of players are eligible for Turkey, even Albanians and Bosnians as they would have some odd family connection with Turkey. Adnan Janujaj was and a whole lot of others. In football they don't pick Turkey but in basketball it happens a lot as most of Turkey's basketball players are of Bosnian origin.

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couldnt have said it better meself :beer:
straight from the horses mouth!

Ozil is still not lost to Turkey. He wasn't produced through Turkish footballing development and didn't play through Turkish teams. Nuri Sahin, Julian Green and as garbage as he is Jermaine Jones are players lost from Germany.

It's all moot, Ozil should be dumped from the national team anyway.

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Originally Posted by The Hound

Ozil is still not lost to Turkey. He wasn't produced through Turkish footballing development and didn't play through Turkish teams. Nuri Sahin, Julian Green and as garbage as he is Jermaine Jones are players lost from Germany.

It's all moot, Ozil should be dumped from the national team anyway.

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I guess you can add Kevin Prince Boateng to that list

Well it's more legitimate than Özil and Khedira