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& u soldier what u bumping?
i must of been sitting here for quite a whille listening to nothing just stoned & still smoking
Parallel case to people having different meaning to the original question of this thread: distinguishing spirituality and religion....some have different views and think they are distinct.
Who can distinguish these terms the best? who is right at the end? the authors of the English dictionary?
Spirituality, religion, culture....they're not the same.
As far as defining these terms, they're already defined. People want to utilize they're interpretation/understanding/misunderstanding of what these words mean to suite their ideas/motives or whatever.
They aren't the same, however they do have some overlap in characteristics. What people argue is exactly how they overlap, or if one term a subset of the other term. Also if the definition is too broad or narrow also has to be considered.
This overlap is the confusing part of everything and why there is some broken communication in this thread. Some people believe that their definitions are "correct" and the others have comprehension problems. This approach will take us nowhere.
I guess you are right that sometimes people deliberately try to equivocate terms. But on the other hand, sometimes another closely related conceptual word doesn't suit their ideas/motives and they use one largely known word and use it to try to keep things simple. In many cases their ideas are still valid if most of the population understands.
As far as things already defined, concepts are NEVER defined precisely no matter what dictionaries you look in. There might have been attempts in this thread to interpret things, but so far not everyone has been convinced or else this thread would have stopped.
but religions exist beyond culture's borders, which are geographic. religion's borders are in the mind and much different person to person. example, you have American culture (if you wanna call it culture:no: ) which is not only home to christians but muslims, hindu, even buddhists and radical cultists.
the culture is the congregation of all these things, as well as others, isnt it? my problem with religion is its historical application and what it represents in our past, in my opinion. it can confine the mind... but dont forget that for those who actually believe in it, it provides a healthy source of hope, something athiests (term used loosely) dont have much of.
last point - i think someone's religious belief system, in whatever shape or form, is as predictable as their social patterns and basic personality - all shaped by experience and genes? we also have to realize that the majority of the people in the world today think less deeply into shit of this importance.
peace