Fuck Jesus

I'm just :nerdy::looking:around and seeing what everyone has to say. I ain't even gonna touch it yet.:W

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Originally Posted by Make~Sensi*

Faith? i have faith in God, not in people in made up positions who think they have the right to tell us what God wants.

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i agree, so fuck jesus.

Haha, But i also believe Jesus really was the Son of God and our saviour. He told us that the jews where not the only people God loved(the main reason they wanted him dead). He told us that he was God's son and our brother, and that God is our Father. He also taught us that He was God( Because being his son makes him ). And that we are all equal (like when he washed his friends feet, when they offered to do it for him). I have translated the basic message of Jesus into my own assumption. Which is; God is the Father, Mary is the Mother, Jesus is the Son, - it is a cycle that involves us all, Man Woman and Child. God created Humans in his form - We are God's. Jesus is our role model because being created in such ways we have powers unlike any other creature, Use them for the good of the people and the earth (Climate change and pollution wasnt such a biggy back then so it doesnt get a mention, but wot the hell lol). But as we see right in our faces everyday there are Devils destroying God's ulimate creation - Earth.

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Originally Posted by Make~Sensi*

Haha, But i also believe Jesus really was the Son of God and our saviour. He told us that the jews where not the only people God loved(the main reason they wanted him dead). He told us that he was God's son and our brother, and that God is our Father. He also taught us that He was God( Because being his son makes him ). And that we are all equal (like when he washed his friends feet, when they offered to do it for him). I have translated the basic message of Jesus into my own assumption. Which is; God is the Father, Mary is the Mother, Jesus is the Son, - it is a cycle that involves us all, Man Woman and Child. God created Humans in his form - We are God's. Jesus is our role model because being created in such ways we have powers unlike any other creature, Use them for the good of the people and the earth (Climate change and pollution wasnt such a biggy back then so it doesnt get a mention, but wot the hell lol). But as we see right in our faces everyday there are Devils destroying God's ulimate creation - Earth.

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Ausar, Auset, Heru the original trinity.

According to my research, I am led to believe that man created God is her/his own image vice God created us in her/his image.

No. Ausar Auset Heru are much more ancient.

i think the original trinity would prolly pre-date earth

if you wanna be technical about it

even Ausar Auset and Heru dont extend beyond the realm of metaphor and symbol

(which isnt to underestimate their relative importance)

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

According to my research, I am led to believe that man created God is her/his own image vice God created us in her/his image.

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can you elaborate on that a bit?

it sounds interesting

Yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about. Not being ignorant! make a thread i'd like to learn.

PEACE.

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Originally Posted by Make~Sensi*

Yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about. Not being ignorant! make a thread i'd like to learn.

PEACE.

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Aight. I was in the process of replying but I'll start a thread.

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Originally Posted by LHX

i think the original trinity would prolly pre-date earth

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That's going into the whole wombniverse concept for me.

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Originally Posted by LHX

can you elaborate on that a bit?

it sounds interesting

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I elaborated here http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41693

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

listen, one of the very few things we know for sure about jesus, the man not the mythological figure, is that he traveled around the near east telling people in aramaic:

"the end of the world is near. you must repent, for it is only through me that one can reach the kingdom of god."

forget everything else you think you know about jesus, and recognize the supreme douchebaggery in that statement which is repeated more or less in that form across all 4 of the original gospels and can be verified in secular accounts from the time as well. implicit in that statement is that unless you do as i do, you will suffer eternal damnation.

and how in the world can you consider jesus a philosopher? "love thy brother" isn't a philosophy it's a deluded wish.

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I agree with that, I dont think he is an amazing philosopher at all, he was a pretty basic thinker actually. also he didnt really come up with anything revolutionary at all

but many people believe that you can learn a lot from what he said about morality, or about what he stood for in his life

I am not one of those people

also everything about jesus is too vague

but I can see how some people could learn how to value good above yourself from his actions, that doesnt mean these people are smart or right though

jesus, was probably a regular guy, who's image was used by the wealthy in order to push their views and plans forward on the masses

most people will never admit this to be true, bc it would be too hard for their indoctrined brains to comprehend

this also goes for muhummad and any other persons who believed that their philosophies should be followed bc they have been sent from "God", they were either using it to their owns ends or they were used to fulfill someone elses

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Originally Posted by zeppelin2k

I agree with that, I dont think he is an amazing philosopher at all, he was a pretty basic thinker actually. also he didnt really come up with anything revolutionary at all

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no, he was not a basic thinker. a basic thinker would not be capable of conveying messages spoken in parables with numerous underlying meanings. most of Jesus' life was to fulfill prophecies and kind of make sure people stayed on the right path, he wasn't fully devoted to philosophy, but that doesn't make him simple minded.

i think having one of the largest religions in the world come from a person involves at least some type of revolutionary thought. if Jesus said hardly anything revolutionary, i know of at least one thought that was: Love your enemy.

now, your born into this world, you go to school and there's a kid who picks on you all the time, openly hates you and maybe even fights you once or twice. would you, without any outside influence, ever consider loving him? i doubt anyone would, but Jesus did.

that's because jesus was an idiot.

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Originally Posted by Koolish

no, he was not a basic thinker. a basic thinker would not be capable of conveying messages spoken in parables with numerous underlying meanings. most of Jesus' life was to fulfill prophecies and kind of make sure people stayed on the right path, he wasn't fully devoted to philosophy, but that doesn't make him simple minded.

i think having one of the largest religions in the world come from a person involves at least some type of revolutionary thought. if Jesus said hardly anything revolutionary, i know of at least one thought that was: Love your enemy.

now, your born into this world, you go to school and there's a kid who picks on you all the time, openly hates you and maybe even fights you once or twice. would you, without any outside influence, ever consider loving him? i doubt anyone would, but Jesus did.

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Believe me... the whole humanitarian, love your enemy thing was not Jesus' invention. Plenty of religions and philosophies predated his ideas of pacifism.

Christians like to harp on this idea, but it's not even the central theme of the Bible. Sure, it's one of the values Jesus espouses, but far more prolific is the message that if you don't do what God/Jesus says, you will be punished for eternity after you die or after the Apocalypse. The philosophy as a whole fosters excuses for bigotry, genocide, and all sorts of other humanity ills. I'm not saying the Bible is entirely devoid of SOME good ideas, but it's certainly FAR from being the pillar of good human conduct. If you think it's the unfallible code for morality, just take a look at some of the ungodly (pun-intended) atrocities the Israelites commit throughout the Old Testament at God's behest.

Jainism is certainly far more "righteous" in its approach to non-violence as a way of life.

black people in america is totaly lost they don't want to pray to jesus because he's a white man now they prey to a arab man & want to come say shit like fuck jesus
islam does not regonise the 5% or the sunnis true muslims find it discracefull, the word of allah is the word of allah, you do what's in the quaran without question & without changes that is what a muslim priest told me. it was a while back but i remember him saying he doesn't like america & those blacks give allah a bad name & sunnis musn't mix their indian culture with islam

The man on the audio isn't muslim, neither am I (for what that's worth). To my knowledge muslims see Jesus as a prophet. So I don't think that they should come out their mouths with negative words about a prophet.