people who blindly deny conspiracy in america

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Originally Posted by Visions Unseen

absolutely.

But its not his fault the american populace in general has next to no clue about its foreign policy.

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well, most people don't care to learn. The information is there. Thats the point though.

Most people know it exists, don't care cuz they can't do anything about it, and it rarely impacts their life.

9-11 for all the havoc is wrecked for alot of people, did not really affect my life much.

As long as people are comfortable, they won't care. When it started to affect them alot, then they will care.


That goes with almost anything in life not just foreign policy.

I take an interest in all of this, thats why I care. I assume the same for you.

I dont feel someone is ignorant for not wanting to know, just ignorant when they do care, form an opinion without doing their own research.

But thats were the media comes in. Sure they use tactics. The State is always going to be pro-State. NO matter what type of State you live in.
That doesn't anger me as long as the people have some say in its leadership.

Corruption exists everywhere and it will always exist in Government and the State.


I think people should be exposed if they are wrong. Expose the U.S. for its wrongdoings, just do not expect the U.S. to be gung ho in doing it.

My Lai Massacre in Nam is an example of this.

The US military initially covered it up and the Senate was ordered to investigate the incident.

But only after one of hte soldiers story's had been published by a journalist in the St. Louis Post-Gazette.

Thats how its got to work....from the bottom up. I understand what your saying, but again people aren't going to jump on everything.

It has to have value to them.

I'm not going to learn to understand the mechanics of certain machines or mathematical problems because frankly I dont care, and it will probably never affect me.

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Originally Posted by NickyTooch

well, most people don't care to learn. The information is there. Thats the point though.

Most people know it exists, don't care cuz they can't do anything about it, and it rarely impacts their life.

9-11 for all the havoc is wrecked for alot of people, did not really affect my life much.

As long as people are comfortable, they won't care. When it started to affect them alot, then they will care.


That goes with almost anything in life not just foreign policy.

I take an interest in all of this, thats why I care. I assume the same for you.

I dont feel someone is ignorant for not wanting to know, just ignorant when they do care, form an opinion without doing their own research.

But thats were the media comes in. Sure they use tactics. The State is always going to be pro-State. NO matter what type of State you live in.
That doesn't anger me as long as the people have some say in its leadership.

Corruption exists everywhere and it will always exist in Government and the State.


I think people should be exposed if they are wrong. Expose the U.S. for its wrongdoings, just do not expect the U.S. to be gung ho in doing it.

My Lai Massacre in Nam is an example of this.

The US military initially covered it up and the Senate was ordered to investigate the incident.

But only after one of hte soldiers story's had been published by a journalist in the St. Louis Post-Gazette.

Thats how its got to work....from the bottom up. I understand what your saying, but again people aren't going to jump on everything.

It has to have value to them.

I'm not going to learn to understand the mechanics of certain machines or mathematical problems because frankly I dont care, and it will probably never affect me.

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I hear you on that and alluded to it in a previous post in that its not that the information doesn't get released but it DOES get buried under a mountain of distraction. Another point I made earlier was that the national media doesn't break any real stories, just as you mentioned here, it was a newspaper that put forward what got national attention. I'd say that's probably the case for 99% of any major story that was intially unknown.

It was a paper in San Jose that originally broke the CIA-contra-cocaine connection and it seems to always be a similar situation when a story does get broke wide open.

I would say foreign policy does affect people a lot more than are aware of. How much heartbreak was caused by the crack wars of the 80's? Foreign policy put it into the streets. I'm personally not comfortable with those kinds of things being done. I'm pretty much powerless by myself to cause any real change. All I can do is remind people on hip-hop forums :b

1984 should be mandatory reading for everyone. Orwell reminds you over and over again that the hope is with the proles but that they would never realize it. Its how I feel about the system as it currently stands. We perch ourselves up by standing on the backs of others with no real awareness of exactly what that means. It's a posistion as a nation I'm not entirely comfortable with.

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Originally Posted by Robert

Wording of the initial question. It doesn't matter now because there is a reasonable debate going.

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Originally Posted by Prince Rai

Is your message that we ought not question "illuminati"?

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nah, i didn't word that correctly, but the point of that was that in business there does seem to be a shadow power.

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Originally Posted by Threyev

i don't want people to think i'm some government supporter who rejects everything people put out there and only listen to what's being fed to me. i just like to have facts before me, and i really can't get enough concrete evidence in the 9/11 situation and organized New World Order and Illuminati stuff.

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How can you justify what you just said and still believe that 9/11 was not an inside job? Everyone and their mom knows 9/11 was an inside job, just like all the other staged events in our history. research it then holla at me

[QUOTE=Visions Unseen;1561164]I hear you on that and alluded to it in a previous post in that its not that the information doesn't get released but it DOES get buried under a mountain of distraction. Another point I made earlier was that the national media doesn't break any real stories, just as you mentioned here, it was a newspaper that put forward what got national attention. I'd say that's probably the case for 99% of any major story that was intially unknown.

It was a paper in San Jose that originally broke the CIA-contra-cocaine connection and it seems to always be a similar situation when a story does get broke wide open.

I would say foreign policy does affect people a lot more than are aware of. How much heartbreak was caused by the crack wars of the 80's? Foreign policy put it into the streets. I'm personally not comfortable with those kinds of things being done. I'm pretty much powerless by myself to cause any real change. All I can do is remind people on hip-hop forums :b

LOL!!!! visions breaking it down for all yall sucka mcees!!lol