Slaughterhouse Push 18K CDs in First Week, Joe Budden Fails to Chart

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Originally Posted by The Prime Sithesizah

Really, Fermi?.. Staten Go Hard mixtape over Padded Room? VERSE for VERSE? How often do you see people relating to Raekwon more than Joe Budden? If people had to select between these two' catalogues to live with the rest of their lives, I can almost PROMISE more people are gonna choose Joe Budden. Why? Because he's more versatile and touches more topics. OB4CL2 has been waited on for like forever, meanwhile, Joe Budden is hardly disappointing with his recent releases. Deny the fact all you want. Go through most topics about Raekwon's recent single releases and you'll see LOADS of negative feedback. Some people dont even care about that album anymore because they're hearing weak material. IMO.. this whole discussion is biased. Its on a Wu-Tang website, so people here are gonna feel some kind of way. These fans are gonna wanna believe that Raekwon is still the same Chef from over 10 years ago. NOBODY UP HERE would be talking wreckless if it was a supergroup like Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Kool G Rap and Masta Ace.. and G Rap being the nigga that got punched in the face. More of you wouldn't be supportive of Wu afterward and would've seen it the same way.. like.. how Raekwon is the "LEGEND" in this case.. G Rap being more the "LEGEND" in that case would've had a case-load of you dickridin G Rap and saying "Fuck Raekwon" right now..

It took ONE PERSONAL opinion to make thousands of fans hate ONE MAN thats ALWAYS speaking his mind, whether people like it or not.. thats sad!! All Meth and Joe had to do was collab and see who outshined who, let the listeners decide.


Explain to me how Slaughterhouse isnt doing better than Wu-Tang Clan TODAY? Lets not confuse the 93 - 97 Wu-Tang for the modern Wu-Tang. Chamber Music was dope but line for line, not quite with the Slaughterhouse debut.

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i would understand if most of u buttonfagz would be with 'wu isnt what they used to be' they should leave it at that and they wouldnt get mocked. but when you fags bring in the 'slaughterhouse is the hottest/best right now and is better than wu'....that's just false dickriding. which part of that slaughterhouse album is a "classic" or "amazing" how u fans call it, i listened to it, i don't see anything special...sure theres a few hot verses here and there but the production on that shit alone is dimebag quality, there's nothing that stands out bout them whether it be their flow or their voice, just 4 "ok/mediocre" mixtape rappers on a regular average joe album, if you replaced one of them with another decent mixtape rapper you wouldn't even notice a difference. that's what i mean, what is slaughterhouse bringing to the game that makes them so SPECIAL and "THE HOTTEST"? nothing. i would rather listen to chamber music than that wannabe mainstream slaughterhouse shit with gimmick ass cheap beats, even the guestlist on chambermusic>slaughterhouse

you're right, no one would be talking shit because most of us who love rae loves g rap and the such just as much. and if g rap said he can pass method man lyrically, he would have a valid point, and they are both legends so it wouldn't even be disrespect. i would go to the neutral side if that happened becaues rae and g rap are both legends that deserves respect. but the thing is...IS BUTTON G RAP?and im sure rae wouldnt go and disrespect a man like kool g rap, nor will a man like g rap ever say somethin like that to create a buzz cuz he dont need to, unlike button. puttin g rap in place of button is just stupid, cuz their background, their reputation, their music catalog, and what they did for hiphop and how respected they are , are on a complete different level. g rap is a legend from way back, button is a nobody who couldnt blow up and got dropped of def jam after a single album.

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Originally Posted by RAW-TASTE

i would understand if most of u buttonfagz would be with 'wu isnt what they used to be' they should leave it at that and they wouldnt get mocked. but when you fags bring in the 'slaughterhouse is the hottest/best right now and is better than wu'....that's just false dickriding. which part of that slaughterhouse album is a "classic" or "amazing" how u fans call it, i listened to it, i don't see anything special...sure theres a few hot verses here and there but the production on that shit alone is dimebag quality, there's nothing that stands out bout them whether it be their flow or their voice, just 4 "ok/mediocre" mixtape rappers on a regular average joe album, if you replaced one of them with another decent mixtape rapper you wouldn't even notice a difference. that's what i mean, what is slaughterhouse bringing to the game that makes them so SPECIAL and "THE HOTTEST"? nothing. i would rather listen to chamber music than that wannabe mainstream slaughterhouse shit with gimmick ass cheap beats, even the guestlist on chambermusic>slaughterhouse

you're right, no one would be talking shit because most of us who love rae loves g rap and the such just as much. and if g rap said he can pass method man lyrically, he would have a valid point, and they are both legends so it wouldn't even be disrespect. i would go to the neutral side if that happened becaues rae and g rap are both legends that deserves respect. but the thing is...IS BUTTON G RAP?and im sure rae wouldnt go and disrespect a man like kool g rap, nor will a man like g rap ever say somethin like that to create a buzz cuz he dont need to, unlike button. puttin g rap in place of button is just stupid, cuz their background, their reputation, their music catalog, and what they did for hiphop and how respected they are , are on a complete different level. g rap is a legend from way back, button is a nobody who couldnt blow up and got dropped of def jam after a single album.

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Neither album was all that "amazing" to say the least, its just.. personally, I felt the Slaughterhouse album more (and it kinda came off like a mixtape in a way) because it was a little more entertaining.. IMO.... because I was a lyricist and stopped writing to produce music now. But I respect your opinion and point of view..

The problems with Wu fans enjoying the slaughterhouse album was compounded even further when Memory Man released Cuban Revolution. It SHITS GIGANTIC TURDS all over the slaughterhouse album. There's not a chance in hell a Wu fan is gonna big up slaughterhouse at this moment in time.

the album is dope. and they really had no, and i mean no, promotion whatsoever.

i mean, just cause its on wu-corp doesnt mean anybody else even is aware of any "beefs" or anything. and hip hop heads on the internet download all their albums anyway.

but honestly, 32,000 pressed and shipped. 18,000 sold. thats good business. honestly. they damn sure didnt brick. they aint setting the world on fire, but they did not brick either.
one of the better albums out right now. and they are all 4 mc's who can spit.

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Originally Posted by CPH Link

Ok you study business, we get it:thumbup:
So do I, and your argument hold no water what so ever. What it has to do with studiyng business is beyond me, its simple mathematics, nothing else! 18K is 18K no matter what. Are you telling me thay would sell twice as much if the shipment was twice as big??? I dont think so. Theyre a niche group, they have a certain fanbase with a certain size, thats it. And bwt 1600 copies is weak (and here you cant use the shipment excuse lol).
Honestly you must go to some kind of grocery school, dont act like you Donald Trump because you can divide numbers.

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First off, what 1600 dollar shippment are you talking about? I have a feeling that your reffering to the 1700 digital downloads of buddens mixtape.

Which is not a shippment. You cant ship a "download". Downloads you download from the internet and pay for them on the internet. Now im starting to feel like im teaching people how to use the computer.


Second, you said 18k is 18k. Fair enough.

But 18k is being compared to what?
18k can be great, and 18k can be a flop. Slaughterhouse did no where near a flop.
If a million cds were produced, backed by a major, and the shit did 18k...thats is not a
good look.

But if 36,000 are shipped, on an independent label, and 18k are sold first week...thats good business!

No one has to recoup a dime. It means that everyone went to the bank.




Now - everybody knows whos album drops September 8, 2009. Wel see how those numbers look like.

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Originally Posted by The Prime Sithesizah

Comparing them to Wu-Tang in general, it's a MASSIVE joke to me.. lmao.. the beef. the fans ridiculous statements. etc.. all Im saying is that, lyrically.. until the next Wu album.. Slaughterhouse outdid them compared to Chamber Music.. people are not taking heed.. I never said Slaughterhouse is GREATER but the better team as for modern time, jus weak beats on the album (nobody can deny that).

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I agree. Its just that 90% of the people on this board that are arguing what your saying are people who never heard any slaughterhouse music, or heard it with their biased ears.

What i really dont understand is when some of these cornballs call them "wack"..

How can you even call this wack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vkZ9MYXu8

motherufcking, it's good business because the label didn't have enough confidence in the slaughterhouse brand name to ship more than 36,000 fucking copies. you might be a college freshman trying to get his associates degree at some shitty community college but who gives A FUCK about business right now you stupid mother fucking clown. STOP saying joe budden makes 7 dollars an album you fucking idiot NO ONE even on an indy is pulling in 7 dollars an album. you really think joe budden cleared 200k in straight cash from his stupid piece of shit padded room? jesus christ... good business by the label, BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD no one wanted to buy the fucking album! are you fans of slaughterhouse, or Koch? dumb fucking asshole going to come on this forum and talk about BUSINESS like he's a genius and so is budden... raekwon was on the MAIN STAGE at RTB BY HIMSELF while the slaughterhouse clowns rocked the PAID DUES STAGE WITH ALL 4 OF THEM? WHO MAKES more cash now, honestly? fucking idiot, get off the forum...

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Originally Posted by standout

I agree. Its just that 90% of the people on this board that are arguing what your saying are people who never heard any slaughterhouse music, or heard it with their biased ears.

What i really dont understand is when some of these cornballs call them "wack"..

How can you even call this wack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vkZ9MYXu8

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song is alright, autotune is wack, joe buddens VOICE IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING IT KILLS THE TRACK i had to turn that shit off

it really is funny how mad you must get at these topics though. nerdy ass homo slaughterhouse fan who browses wu tang forums to get mad at some shit. i can just imagine you reading this shit and wanting to punch a hole in the wall. pussy faggot no one cares about joe budden.. crooked is dope, royce is alright, joell is almost as annoying as joe

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Originally Posted by tical2000

As far as CHAMBER MUSIC doing 9,000 units, I would agree that is shit......BUT, CHamber Music is not really a "real" Wu Tang CLan album, it was kind of a side project with Rza and a band, half the tracks are like interludes......the album came out with zero promotion not on a major label, no video, no beef, and no fuckin daily video blogs.

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this is true... this is a compliation, not an LP.

compare Slaughterhouse to 8 Diagrams... 8 Diagrams sold almost 70,000 copies first week compared to Slaughterhouse selling 18,000

then Meth & Red clearing 57,000 or something similar to Buddens 1,700

Pro Tools & Digi Snacks even killed Budden

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Originally Posted by standout

I agree. Its just that 90% of the people on this board that are arguing what your saying are people who never heard any slaughterhouse music, or heard it with their biased ears.

What i really dont understand is when some of these cornballs call them "wack"..

How can you even call this wack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vkZ9MYXu8

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That is wack.

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Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED

Its almost as embarrasing as their name. "Slaughterhouse".

Ok you realise youve named yourself after a place that puts down cows, pigs, chickens for farms and stuff? Whats exactly so cool and clever about that?

Not only that its just a fucking pathetic name LOL

Their whole thing is just fisher price hip hop-by-numbers generic manufactured crap. Which is why it hasnt caught anyones attention other than people that havent been listening to hip hop for more than 2 years.

"Slaughterhouse"??? Really?? That names just fucking gay. Its honestly the sort of name you'd expect 14 year olds to come up with as a "dope new hip hop name" for their new group.

Anyway,.

18k

Wow lmao.

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the album is pretty boring, they need to step to wu on a lyrical level or its just meaningless lyrics on that whole album, they "lyrical murderers" yeah right, rae said it best "they throwin butterknifes"

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Originally Posted by Monkdude

motherufcking, it's good business because the label didn't have enough confidence in the slaughterhouse brand name to ship more than 36,000 fucking copies. you might be a college freshman trying to get his associates degree at some shitty community college but who gives A FUCK about business right now you stupid mother fucking clown.

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First of all - and this is me being respectful - suck dick.

Second - im not at no community college. Im studying in Canada at a university that got ranked top 10 in the country for their econ/bus program...im not no idiot. Why is it cool to attack slaughterhouse but not cool to defend them on this board? stop being biased. Attack the thread starter who brought this into view.


And once again - suck dick.

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Originally Posted by Monkdude

it really is funny how mad you must get at these topics though. nerdy ass homo slaughterhouse fan who browses wu tang forums to get mad at some shit.

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not mad at all. im here being civilized. go visit jbtv and see how many wu corp people are there flooding the board with childish shit.

You too can suck a dick though.

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Originally Posted by Sinistarr

this is true... this is a compliation, not an LP.

compare Slaughterhouse to 8 Diagrams... 8 Diagrams sold almost 70,000 copies first week compared to Slaughterhouse selling 18,000

then Meth & Red clearing 57,000 or something similar to Buddens 1,700

Pro Tools & Digi Snacks even killed Budden

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8 diagrams was backed by Universal. Meth and Red are on Def Jam.

The budden tape is a digital MIXTAPE on amalgam...its not an album.


suck dick for being a hater and commenting anyways though

forget these wu stans already man, most of them are straight up retarded

Joe Budden and other 3 losers in Slaughterhouse are in a hotel room somewhere crying....



STANDOUT is infront of a computer somewhere calculating projected profit margins of future Joe Budden releases when he moves 3,000 units.....

Face it, Joe Budden's will soon be spending his days working at Foot Locker and spending his nights working at the local kentucky Fried Chicken....(in his mind though, while he cooks chicken, he will be thinking, I sure did not make much money off the Slaughterhouse album, but man those profit margins were fantastic....")