The Beatles

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the Beatles were pure geniuses. imo the band with the most hits (strawberry fields, penny lane, ... you name it! and I don't mean hits in the sense of "best selling" but in sense of good music) and most influence on music.

As good as the Beatles were they are probably one of the most overatted bands going....... And im not dissing them, I think they're great, I own most thier cds and I respect the impact that they had on the music industry....... but then again did they really have any competiton? At the time not really.

And this is coming from someone whos got close relations with the Cavern club

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Originally Posted by Ginnsey

As good as the Beatles were they are probably one of the most overatted bands going....... And im not dissing them, I think they're great, I own most thier cds and I respect the impact that they had on the music industry....... but then again did they really have any competiton? At the time not really.

And this is coming from someone whos got close relations with the Cavern club

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the fact that they blew away the competition proves that they weren't overrated.

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Originally Posted by memoryman

the fact that they blew away the competition proves that they weren't overrated.

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What competition!?!? thats my point. No where near as many artists or even different types of music as there are nowadays to compete with

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Originally Posted by Ginnsey

What competition!?!? thats my point. No where near as many artists or even different types of music as there are nowadays to compete with

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i would argue that popular music was actually more diverse in the '60s than it is now... and the beatles destroy 95% of what comes out now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Rlv_czpFU

Great song :D

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Originally Posted by memoryman

i would argue that popular music was actually more diverse in the '60s than it is now... and the beatles destroy 95% of what comes out now.

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I guess that depends. If you are comparing it to what u see on MTV or whateva music channel then yea, sure i agree. but if u dig deeper and dont decide to buy ure music based on whats at the top of the charts at the time then i disagree.

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Originally Posted by Ginnsey

What competition!?!? thats my point. No where near as many artists or even different types of music as there are nowadays to compete with

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one of the reasons the beatles achieved their greatness was because of the intense competition in 60's music. music was changing and everybody was trying to top each other - the beach boys tried to top the beatles, in turn making the beatles try to top the beach boys, while the rolling stones tried to top the beatles and the beatles tried to top bob dylan... personally, i think music in the 60's was much more consistently good than music in the 2000's because the competition was so strong.

there's definitely more music being produced today, but i don't think the competition is as great. if you look at the music in the 60's, the competition was intense because there were so many groundbreaking and brilliant artists active:

the beatles
bob dylan
the rolling stones
the velvet underground
sly and the family stone
frank zappa and the mothers of invention
james brown
the who
the beach boys
captain beefheart and his magic band
os mutantes
jimi hendrix
the doors
cream
miles davis
the supremes
marvin gaye
creedence clearwater revival
the animals

and the list goes on. i'm not saying there's no good music being made today, because there's a lot, i just think the competition was stronger back then, especially in popular music. most of the music i listed above holds up to the best music of today. i can't think of any album from the 2000's that i'd consider as good as the white album.

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Originally Posted by herzog

one of the reasons the beatles achieved their greatness was because of the intense competition in 60's music. music was changing and everybody was trying to top each other - the beach boys tried to top the beatles, in turn making the beatles try to top the beach boys, while the rolling stones tried to top the beatles and the beatles tried to top bob dylan... personally, i think music in the 60's was much more consistently good than music in the 2000's because the competition was so strong.

there's definitely more music being produced today, but i don't think the competition is as great. if you look at the music in the 60's, the competition was intense because there were so many groundbreaking and brilliant artists active:

the beatles
bob dylan
the rolling stones
the velvet underground
sly and the family stone
frank zappa and the mothers of invention
james brown
the who
the beach boys
captain beefheart and his magic band
os mutantes
jimi hendrix
the doors
cream
miles davis
the supremes
marvin gaye
creedence clearwater revival
the animals

and the list goes on. i'm not saying there's no good music being made today, because there's a lot, i just think the competition was stronger back then, especially in popular music. most of the music i listed above holds up to the best music of today. i can't think of any album from the 2000's that i'd consider as good as the white album.

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I pretty much agree with everything you said BUT...and this is prolly nitpicking I wouldn't put Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, The Supremes, James Brown in there because they made completly different music. They didn't try to beat The Beatles, they were trying to come into their own right with their music...

It's like saying Led Zeppelin were trying to top the albums The Band put out... 2 totally different styles...

And yeah the list you gave + alot more artists does hold up as the best music today for me 2.

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Originally Posted by Jeru

I pretty much agree with everything you said BUT...and this is prolly nitpicking I wouldn't put Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, The Supremes, James Brown in there because they made completly different music. They didn't try to beat The Beatles, they were trying to come into their own right with their music...

It's like saying Led Zeppelin were trying to top the albums The Band put out... 2 totally different styles...

And yeah the list you gave + alot more artists does hold up as the best music today for me 2.

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i agree that those artists weren't trying to beat the beatles, and i did leave out a shitload of soul and jazz musicians for the reasons you mentioned. but, i think including those artists gives a good idea of the musical landscape of the time - not only did you have a lot of great pop and rock groups, but you had groundbreaking jazz, R&B and all sorts of other stuff influencing the musical realm.

this music was most definitely influencing the beatles. the beatles were listening to every kind of music that was coming out, using it in their own music, trying to top everybody. i wouldn't doubt if those artists, james brown in particular, were influenced by the beatles in some ways too.

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Originally Posted by herzog

i agree that those artists weren't trying to beat the beatles, and i did leave out a shitload of soul and jazz musicians for the reasons you mentioned. but, i think including those artists gives a good idea of the musical landscape of the time - not only did you have a lot of great pop and rock groups, but you had groundbreaking jazz and all sorts of other stuff influencing the musical realm.

that music was most definitely influencing the beatles. the beatles were listening to every kind of music that was coming out, using it in their own music, trying to top everybody. i wouldn't doubt if james brown in particular was influenced by the beatles too.

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Did you see The Anthology series? It gives a great insight into The Beatles :yes:...should check it out...it's gold :D...and they were influenced by Dylan :)...in his folk days

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Originally Posted by Jeru

Did you see The Anthology series? It gives a great insight into The Beatles :yes:...should check it out...it's gold :D...and they were influenced by Dylan :)...in his folk days

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i've seen some of it, and it is great. i need to see more. and yeah, bob dylan was a huge influence on the beatles. he totally inspired them to be more experimental and serious, and he introduced them to weed. bob dylan is one of the few artists that i think is almost up there with the beatles in terms of greatness.

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Originally Posted by herzog

i've seen some of it, and it is great. i need to see more. and yeah, bob dylan was a huge influence on the beatles. he totally inspired them to be more experimental and serious, and he introduced them to weed. bob dylan is one of the few artists that i think is almost up there with the beatles in terms of greatness.

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I totally agree

Fuck The Beatles, its all about Wings...


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