"Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"

Is this zooruka guy serious?
Pretty funny shit.

THe funniest logic that I see is "Atheists don't believe in God and therefore are devil worshippers"

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

The problem is, as you said, you think the two ideas are in competition. You can't understand that atheism is not related to religion and does not purport to be a replacement.

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Apart from a few wannabe rebelious people,who think its cool not to believe in God or individuals who think they are enlightend because they went to university (the home of atheist indoctrination) , most of the believers in atheism come from the scientific community, and they try and use science as there basis for proof that God does not exist and want to use science as the vehicle to (replace religious explinations of the origins of mankind and everything that exists,) with there own atheist beliefs, I dont believe anyone became an athesist because of science, because there is not enough proof, but rather people with atheist beliefs became scientist.... so while they don`t openly admit they want to replace religion they are activly trying to use science and the tag of knowledge to try to replace it ..... it`s ignorance to think otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

They are not in competition for anything, especially not to gain converts. Atheism is not in competition with religion, it functions completely outside of religion..

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It`s ashame that you can`t see it for what it is.....atheism is in competion with religion for converts, not because atheists go out and activly seek followers like islam v christianity, but in the sense that atheism presents itself as an alternative to God and religion, through science.... so therefore it automatically becomes a competition for the hearts and minds of the naive public who don`t understand either way about either belief and are still sitting on the fence so to speak...

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

Atheism is not an opinion or a conviction, it is a complete lack of opinion or conviction on the matter of religion..

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You can try and use a play on words all you want to try and rationalize athesim as a lack of belief rather than an actual belief in itself, but automatically once someone holds onto a view point on any subject whatever that is, then it becomes a belief...wether that is a belief of for or against, its still a belief.

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

"So either you believe in God or you don`t believe in God"

This sentence proves my point again, atheists do not believe. You said it yourself, they do not have a belief on the subject..

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They do have a belief they believe there is no God !!!!! that is a belief... I can`t really explain it anymore than that.

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

Without religion as it's counter part, atheism is nothing.

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

Without atheism as it's counter part, religion is still a belief.

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I agree...but that doesn`t mean that athesim is still not a belief.


peace be with you !

I actually feel sorry for the scientific community, what should be a way for humans to show proof of the glory of God, has been highjacked by the devil, and is being used as a a mechanism to try to prove God doesn`t exist.


:no:


peace be with you !

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

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Because Darwin's theory is now the predominant teaching found in our public school systems and in higher education institutions around the world, one might come to think that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution had been proven as fact. This theory - that the world began from a random piece of matter that was over heated and then exploded into the living planet we dwell upon today - still continues to have large gaps and questions without answers. Nothing about the Darwin theory is fact or has been proven so. !!!!!!!









Helioseismology - The core of the sun produces deuterium from hydrogen fusion at 5 million degrees K. The heat is transferred from the core by convection currents so it could reach surface in days, not a million years. It also leads to an age for the sun based on the deuterium/hydrogen ratio of the local interstellar medium of 6,000-12,857 years.


Creationists have indicated that there is too much interplanetary dust in the solar system. The solar wind, solar gravitation and the Poynting Robertson effect remove dust from the solar system, while comets and asteroids can contribute to the dust. An argument was issued by Robertson and Slusher in a 100 page monograph confirming that equations derived nearly fifty years earlier were essentially correct and the solar system was limited to a few thousand years..... without some hitherto unknown massive replacement method. At least half of this conclusion is supported by secular scientists who hold that the lifespan for a typical dust particle is about 10,000 years.

1. The earth's magnetic field energy has been decaying at a factor of 2.7 over the past 1,000 years. At this current decay rate, the earth could not be greater than 10,000 years old. (Science says the age of the earth is around 5 billion years old)
2. There are not enough stone-age skeletons to account for the approximately 4 billion Neanderthal and Cro-magnon people that evolutionary anthropologists say lived during the 100,000 years of the stone age. "Yet only a few thousand skeletons have been found implying that the stone age was much shorter, a few hundred years in many areas."

I agree because everything in the bible is fact concerning the physical world.

peace be with you

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Originally Posted by Visionz

Go head, pull out some quackery-related links that completely distort all measurable data because what they set out to prove what was pre-determined from the very start and then blame it all on atheist.

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thank you for being a predictable numbskull :yessad:

There's zero logic to the shit you just posted, ZERO. You wanna talk about decay of magnetic fields??

Let's talk about soil errosion
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie..._Canyon_23.jpg
http://www.twu.ca/life/ministries/gp...and-canyon.jpg
Let's talk about plate tetonics
http://sun.menloschool.org/%7Enfortm...es/5globes.gif
Lets talk about ice sheets
http://www.detectingdesign.com/image...Layers%202.jpg


You're too dense to realize whats happening with all those bullshit articles you pull up.

They (whoever "they" happen to be) with the mindset of "the Bible says the Earth is 6000 years old" then proceed to cook up numbers to fit the book. They don't approach with an empty slate and just go by what the evidence tells them. A smart person will figure this out (and often times be turned off by the idea of God altogether as it seems, incorrectly, that those who believe must all be blithering idiots)


And btw just so I don't forget. The Bible states that the Sun REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH. I guess you'd never fly around the world for fear that you'd fall off the edge huh?

The Bible is far from fact.

1. At the current rate of erosion from water and winds "it would only take 15 million years to erode all land above sea level," depositing it into the ocean. (Science says the age of continents is hundreds of millions of years old).

if the erath was not young then there would be no land left above sea level.


peace be with you !

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

I actually feel sorry for the scientific community, what should be a way for humans to show proof of the glory of God, has been highjacked by the devil, and is being used as a a mechanism to try to prove God doesn`t exist.


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peace be with you !

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I could fly a plane through the gaps in your logic. You can't prove that God doesn't exist no more than you could prove it. You can however prove that the BIBLE got it wrong and somehow you draw the conclusion that if someone says that the bible got it wrong then they are saying God doesn't exist. That's not the case at all but I don't doubt that you'll keep on thinking that's the situation you're facing.

Jesus spoke in parables so that people could get a grasp on the deeper meaning of how things really work. But he couldn't tell them directly because they wouldn't have understood, it would've went over their heads.
There's a reason that knowledge of the way things work has unraveled slowly. Go teach Calculus to a one-year child and see how much they retain. Humans in their infancy of cultivation weren't ready for the greater truths of this world, judging by your reluctance to accept what's staring you in the face, some still aren't.

Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

1. At the current rate of erosion from water and winds "it would only take 15 million years to erode all land above sea level," depositing it into the ocean. (Science says the age of continents is hundreds of millions of years old).

if the erath was not young then there would be no land left above sea level.


peace be with you !

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according to your logic, every riverbed mentioned in the bible should look like the Grand Canyon.
http://www.padfield.com/israel/Misce...ver-jordan.jpg
The Jordan River? Decidedly un-Grand Canyon like

Just remember the Sun revolves around the Earth any time someone tells you the Bible isn't 100% fact. That'll show 'em

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Originally Posted by Visionz

I could fly a plane through the gaps in your logic. You can't prove that God doesn't exist no more than you could prove it. You can however prove that the BIBLE got it wrong and somehow you draw the conclusion that if someone says that the bible got it wrong then they are saying God doesn't exist. That's not the case at all but I don't doubt that you'll keep on thinking that's the situation you're facing.

Jesus spoke in parables so that people could get a grasp on the deeper meaning of how things really work. But he couldn't tell them directly because they wouldn't have understood, it would've went over their heads.
There's a reason that knowledge of the way things work has unraveled slowly. Go teach Calculus to a one-year child and see how much they retain. Humans in their infancy of cultivation weren't ready for the greater truths of this world, judging by your reluctance to accept what's staring you in the face, some still aren't.

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Jesus Christ used parables in His teachings but some wonder why. His disciples did and they asked Him. Lets see what Jesus Christ told His disciples when they asked Him why He would speak in parables.

mathew 13-13-15

The reason I use parables in talking to them is that they look, but do not see, and they listen, but do not hear or understand. 14 So the prophecy of Isaiah applies to them: "This people will listen and listen, but not understand; they will look and look, but not see, 15 because their minds are dull, and they have stopped up their ears and have closed their eyes. Otherwise, their eyes would see, their ears would hear, their minds would understand, and they would turn to me, says God, and I would heal them.'

from my understanding Jesus gave parables and didnt talk openly so only the real followers would understand and the fakes wouldn`t, otherwise they would turn to God and he would heal them.


peace be with you !

Sun meet Earth, this is who you revolve around.

btw you completely overlooked my own parable I put in there. What's that say about you?

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

When I was talking about the athiests using the media...I wasn`t talking about them talking about , sex, money, cars ect.... I was talking about them reporting athiests beliefs as facts about human existance, such as the big bang, evolution, how old the earth is ect... these beliefs may or may not have started off as athiest beliefs, but today they have become an integral part of the athiest agrument for trying to disprove the existance of God.... thats what I mean`t.


In regards to why the media , is structured to project worldy ideals, values and morals and what is the point ????...it`s because in the bible it says the whole world lies in the power of the evil one (the devil), so he is structuring societies through the media,and entertainemnt industries, in such a way, that we are being force fed concepts and ideals that seek to draw us away from God, and to occupy our thought process and wants, to the point that we have no time to think about God and our wants become that of the world (cars,sex,money) rather than our wants being what God expects from us as humans or to do his will....and this will continue to get worse until a majority of society loses sight of God altogether, this might mean some will become athiests or some will just become so worldy they have no need for god in there lives at all... so we should consider these days as the good times...because it will only get worse !!!!!


hope that helps


peace be with you !

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Co-sign

So...

What will happends when he'll get most of people to be atheistic/wordly ?

What is the plan -it should be a plan behind all this- of the people that are using the media (the devil is not physically gettin behind the boards and deciding what will be shown on tv/commercials etc...) to make people loose their religion and be materialistic ?

Who give them orders ?

What is the purpose of these people ?

ZOoruka What's your view on Deuteronomy 22:
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [c] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Jesus Christ! It's like banging my head against a fucking brick wall with you Zooruka you immalleable piece of shit.

Zooruka you are aware that christians aren't supposed to judge others right? You are basically saying that I am, or have a demon in me, cuz I am atheist. I don't really appreciate that. I feel like I've been unfairly judged by you. Am I wrong?

Zooruka picks and chooses what Christian tenants he'll subscribe to.

His faith is weak and as a result he is insecure about it.

Hence his need to transfer this insecurity into the demonisation of benevolent peoples such as atheists.

You are weak minded Zooruke (not because of your religious beliefs) but because of your dogmatic and foul adherence to the worst aspects of your religion.

Others of your faith should be disgraced by you and those like you.