Not a classic but very good
I think if u take certain songs off of 213, fishscale and pretty tony u could have a classic
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Not a classic but very good
I think if u take certain songs off of 213, fishscale and pretty tony u could have a classic
Still bangin this shit! Shakey Dogg = illness.
Yeah its a banger! "ayo Rae I cant feel my face.. who dat Cappin Kirk?" hahah love underwater
i think this is a dope album!
so many dope trakcs
-shakey dog
-kilo
-the champ
9 milli bros
-whip you with a strap
-back like that (commercial, but the wu needs that. plus it's classic ghost talking about heartbreak)
-underwater
-be easy
-momma
-three bricks
the only thing i would change is the artwork and the placement of songs. some songs just feel awkward next to one another
yeah and you didnt even mention RAGU and thats the best joint ! I´m also feelin Clipse Of Doom and Barbershop
The Return Of Clyde Smith [Skit]
Shakey Dog-8/10, classic ghost song, nice way to start off the album
Kilo-7.5/10, good song, but over-hyped on wu-corp
The Champ-9.5/10, im james bond in the octagon, ghost killed this song and i love the beat. its perfect 4 ghost
Major Operation [Skit]
9 Milli Bros.-8/10, i want to give it a 10 but is only worthy of an 8
Beauty Jackson-9/10, i love the way ghost leaves you fiening for more
Heart Street Directions [Skit]
Crack Spot-8/10, nice track
R.A.G.U.-10/10, rae and ghost= the coat of duos. pete rock came trough with this beat
Bad Mouth Kid [Skit]
Whip You With A Strap-10/10, great lyrics + great beat by dilla=classic
Back Like That-8/10, good radio and mtv song. im not gonna hate on it
Be Easy-8/10, another nice pete rock collabo
Clipse Of Doom-10/10, alot of people hate the beat but i love it. ghost murder this track 3 times over
Jellyfish-8.5/10, ssssuuugggaaarr leeettss get it oooonnnnn!
Dogs Of War-8.5/10, dope theodore cut
Barbershop-8/10, again he leaves you wanting more
Ms. Sweetwater [Skit]
Big Girl-10/10, i love it when ghost raps over those old soul songs
Underwater-10/10, what the fuck did i just listen 2????
The Ironman Takeover [Skit]
Momma-7/10, ok song to finishes the album
fishscale-8.7/10
really there are no bad tracks on fishscale. alot of good ones with greta ones mixed in. could be a classic with time in my book
only just got this album on saturday but the picture behind the CD has gotta be the most disgusting thing i've ever seen
listening to Meths last effort, made me realise just how good Fishscale actually is. It surpasses 4:21 on every front imo. (though Meth is my favorite rapper!)
that's true
Banger. The most consistent artist in the Wu, not named GZA.
This album is incredible. I put it as his 3rd best album behind SC, and Ironman.
Fuck all yall haters
I not rating it compared to his previous albums, just rating it from whaat I feel.
Shakey dog- 5/5 sick story
kilo- 5/5 love coc rap
champ- 5/5 gets me pumped up
9 milli brothers- 4/5
Columbus exchange- 5/5 gotta love that coc rap
Ragu- 6/5 sounds like a cuban linx track
Whip you with a strap- 5/5 another classic ghost story
Back like that- 3.5/5 If it was not for Ne yo this would of got a 4.5, Ghost tells a good story
Be easy- 4
Clipse of doom- 2.5 hate the beat
Jellyfish- 4/5 at first I hated this beat, it grew on me a lot
Dogs of war- 3.5 cool song, that guitar in the beat brings it down for me
Barbershop- 4.5/5 should of kept the whole song
Big girl- 5/5 love this shit
underwater-4/5 Ghost was experimenting, pretty cool
momma- 3/5 not my fav, not bad though
Three Bricks- 5/5 just because of raekwon's verse
Ghost never dissappoints me. i can honestly say I love all his albums. Cant wait for more fish and swift and changeable.
i voted for classic didnt get the recognition it deserved but for wu what else is new same wit 4:21.
good album if you ask me.
Ghostface - "Be Easy" (feat. Trife) is nice shit, excellent song
I loved it, the only flaw was that it had so many skits on it, but they were good skits especially heart street...
My favorite tracks
Crack Spot
9 Milli Bros.
Kilo
Barbershop
The Champ
Momma
Whip You With A Strap
R.A.G.U
This album, I have in rotation...
1.The Return Of Clyde Smith - (Skit)
2.Shakey Dog - 4.5/5
3.Kilo - 5/5
4.The Champ - 5/5
5.Major Operation - (Skit)
6.9 Mili Bros - 5/5
7.Beauty Jackson - 5/5
8.Heart Street Directions - (Skit)
9.Columbus Exchange/Crack Spot - 5/5
10.R.A.G.U - 5/5
11.Bad Mouth Kid - (Skit)
12.Whip You With A Strap - 5/5
13.Back Like That - 4/5
14.Be Easy - 4/5
15.Clipse Of Doom - 5/5
16.Jellyfish - 4/5
17.Dogs Of War - 5/5
18.Barbershop - 4.5/5
19.Ms. Sweetwater - (Skit)
20.Big Girl - 5/5
21.Underwater - 4.5/5
22.Ironman Takeover - (Skit)
23.Momma - 5/5
24.Three Bricks - 5/5
Overall, Ghostface came with another dope. No weak tracks, some classics and the rest are good. Good lyrics and most of the production is dope!
22.
The Return Of Clyde Smith -
Shakey Dog - 10/10 good fuckn track
Kilo - 10/10 "yo Rae I can't feel my face." best track imo
The Champ - 10/10 flawless
Major Operation -
9 Mili Bros - 10/10
Beauty Jackson - 10/10
Heart Street Directions -
Columbus Exchange/Crack Spot - 10/10
R.A.G.U - 10/10
Bad Mouth Kid -
Whip You With A Strap - 10/10
Back Like That - 9/10
Be Easy - 10/10
Clipse Of Doom - 9/10
Jellyfish - 10/10
Dogs Of War - 10/10
Barbershop - 10/10
Ms. Sweetwater -
Big Girl - 10/10
Underwater - 9/10
Ironman Takeover -
Momma - 10/10
Three Bricks - 10/10
177/180 i love this album. top 5 all time on my list.
co-sign on those tracks +Big Girl, Underwater and Clipse of Doom, but I dont how anyone liked that Heart Street skit that wasnt even funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by NY_Mami
8/10.
I love Ghostface and I think not only is this the Best Ghostface album but he best Rap Album in Seven Years. The album cover's about everything Relationship's (Back Like That,Beauty Jackson, Big Girls & Jellyfish) Club Banger (Be Easy) Battle Rap (The Champ) Possie Cuts (9 Milli Broes. & Dogs Of War) Childhood (Whip You with A Stap) Surrealty (Underwater) Life of a drug kingpin (Kilo & Three Bricks) and Hood Saga Track (Shakey Dog, Crack Spot, R.A.G.U., Barbershop, & Clipse Of Doom). The thing this album got right is how to properly use Skits to step up the tracks before them (Major Operation, Columbus Exchange, Bad Moth Kid & Ms. Sweetwaters) or playoff the rack before them (Heart streert Directions). There reallys not a bad track on the albumt hat just furthers my theory that this is the best rap album in the last seven years
i say it's definitely up there with Ironman and Supreme Clientele. I was waiting for him to start fuckin with Doom. I just knew it would happen eventually.
^^Ya I cant wait for Swift and Unchangeable, Ghost is on fire right now i dont see how that album can be disappointing.
beside clipse of doom, no other song really moved me
01 - Shakey Dog (4.5/5)
02 - Kilos (4/5)
03 - The Champ (4/5)
04 - 9 Milli. Bros (4.5/5)
05 - Beauty Jackson (5/5)
06 - Crackspot (4/5)
07 - R.A.G.U. (5/5)
08 - Whip You With A Stap (5/5)
09 - Back Like That (3.5/5)
10 - Be Easy (4/5)
11 - Clipse Of Doom (3.5/5)
12 - JellyFish (3/5)
13 - Dogs of War (4/5)
14 - Barbershop (5/5)
15 - Big Girl (4/5)
16 - Underwater (5/5)
17 - Momma (5/5)
18 - Three Bricks (3.5/5)
Overall: 4.5/5
Ghostface Killah brings us his fifth album 'FISHSCALE'.
1. The Return of Clyde Smith - (4.5/5) Clyde Smith is OFFICIALLY back.
2. Shakey Dog - (5/5) Ghostface kills the mic and production is bangin courtesy of Lewis Parker.
3. Kilo Feat. Raekwon - (4.5/5) Did you know this joint was about drugs? LOL. Ghost & Rae do best at what they do which is rap about drugs. Nice production and the chorus is very catchy "A kilo is a thousand grams, it's easy to remember".
4. The Champ - (5/5) AMAZING beat by Just Blaze and Ghost lets everyone know that he is THE CHAMP.
5. Major Operation (Skit) - (4/5) Another skit about a Major Operation....hmmmm.
6. 9 Milli Bros. Feat. Wu-Tang Clan - (5/5) Nice posse cut by the clan and the rolling piano loop by MF Doom is a nice backdrop to the rapping. This song makes you want to smile and in some cases want to shout 'WU-TANG IS THE ANSWER'.
7. Beauty Jackson - (5/5) Produced by the one and only J Dilla (R.I.P). Although it is short the amazing production by J Dilla compliments Ghosts rapping and the song turns out to be VERY successful.
8. Heart Street Directions (Skit) - (5/5) HAHAHAHA OMG THIS IS FUNNY SHIT. My man balls is out there...LOL.
9. Columbus Exchange" (Skit) / "Crack Spot - (4.5/5) This is surprisingly good because the abrupt start of the song and the production is NICEEE.
10. R.A.G.U. Feat. Raekwon - (100,000,000/5) but for the sake of the review (5/5) This song has got to be the dopest song EVER. Pete Rock drops a MUTHAF***** of a head banging beat on some vintage Cuban Linx shit. CLASSIC material. This songs OWNS. PERIOD.
11. Bad Mouth Kid" (Skit) - (4/5) LOL. Little kid bad mouths Ghost. (Not a wise option unless you want to pick up pieces of your teeth from the street). Not as good as 'Heart Street Directions' but still kinda funny.
12. Whip You With a Strap - (5/5) DOPE. Ghost reminisces his youth as J Dilla drops another addictive gem.
13. Back Like That Feat. Ne-Yo - (4/5) Now i don't usually listen to this RnB bullshit that comes on the radio so often but this song is actually pretty good. In fact the song is very well executed and Ne-Yo doesn't come off like a fag but instead drops a nice chorus. The production is also MUCH better than your average song and this song definitely has chemistry.
14. Be Easy Feat. Trife - (4.5/5) Many people think that Pete Rock's production is boring on this track but i think the complete OPPOSITE of this. His drums (which are like top notch) bang hard and the horns provide a nice tune which Ghost and Trife get busy on. Official HEADBANGER.
15. Clipse of Doom Feat. Trife - (4.5/5) People also think that the production here is bad but in my opinion the track is FIRE. MF Doom provides a killer guitar stroke on which Ghost & Trife spit lyrical heat.
16. Jellyfish Feat. Theodore Unit - (5/5) Sounding 'quite Camay-ish' and I am really diggin the plucked bass lines here. Nice cut with Theodore Unit and surprisingly Cappadonna spits a hot verse.
17. Dogs of War Feat. Raekwon & Theodore Unit - (5/5) HOT SHIT. Pete Rock drops a jewel in which he cleverly uses the Sly Stones 'Family Affair' sample. Everyone including Sun God (Ghosts Son) packs heat on this track.
18. Barbershop - (5/5) Ghost getting a haircut and spitting straight hardcore lyrics. NICE.
19. Ms. Sweetwater (Skit) - (4/5) Mr Starks is missing his key. NOOOOOOOO!!!
20. Big Girl - (4.5/5) I can't believe that Ghost actually produced this one. Most rappers who do this miserably fail but Ghost cooks up some lovely soul and rhymes over it.
21. Underwater - (5/5) AMAZING & WEIRD. If i said this on a normal hip-hop album it would be shit but come on... this is Ghostface Killah were talking about. MF Doom creates an atmospheric, hazy track in which Ghostface uses some dope lyrics. 'Spongebob in the Bentley Coupe, Bangin the Isleys,'.
22. The Ironman Takeover (Skit) - (4/5) Ironman takes over. No, seriously.
23. Momma Feat. Megan Rochell - (4/5) This track also gets a lot of criticism but I have to admit I quite like this. Could have been better if she wasn't actually on it but oh well.
24. Three Bricks Feat. The Notorious B.I.G. & Raekwon (Bonus Track) - (3.5/5) Im guessing this was meant to be on Biggies 'Duets' and quite rightly so it should be. The production is too programmed for my liking and it doesn't end the album as it should do but at the end of the day it is a bonus track so I couldn't really give a flying f***.
114.5/120 = CLASSIC
GHOSTFACE KILLAH IS OFFICIALLY BACK!!! I love this album because the production absolutely OUT OF THIS WORLD and after two average albums Ghostface Killah packs STRAIGHT HEAT into this album. I know that most of you will think i am crazy but In my opinion i think this is on par with Supreme Clientele and in some cases better. This has got to be one of my favourite albums and one of Ghosts best since Ironman.
this is Ghost's most overrated album IMO...the only true standouts are Shakey Dog, which is really nice storytelling, vivid details and all with a nice beat to go with Ghost's delivery, which is amazing on the song, and The Champ, which is another masterpiece by Just Blaze and Ghost kills it. 9 Milli Bros, Be Easy, Clipse of Doom (not a good beat but Ghost's third verse especially is insane), and RAGU are great tracks too, but there are weak spots popping up throughout. Beauty Jackson is average and too short, Back Like That is alright but is an obvious attempt at commercial success, Jellyfish has a wack beat and is average at best, Barbershop seems unnecessary, Big Girl has a nice message but the song itself is boring, Momma has annoying singing, and Three Bricks is way worse than Niggas Bleed (why did it feature BIG's verse anyway). The album is a solid 3.5/5, but its replay value isn't great, and is less than More Fish imo. Still a solid album but not near classis status or even the best of 2006.
After listening to the Big Doe Rehab and 8 Diagrams for the past few weeks I decided to go back to and really listen to all the Ghosts albums in order. Maybe, it was that I had heard a few of the tracks prior to the release and the album lost its sound on me or maybe it was that I was listening to the same old music. Either way I over looked this album big time!!!!
Evere since I waited for the release of Supreme Clientele to drop over here in Ireland (before the internet became what it is) I used to love the build up to Wu albums release.
Bulletproof Wallets came and didn't dissapoint (that was even before I had heard the left over tracks.)
Pretty Toney, suffered because I had heard Ghost freestyle a few of the tracks prior to its release and by the time I had got the album had most of the tracks,but like Ghost albums a bit of time and the grow into the cohesive classics that become hard to split up to just listen to one song before humming the following tune.
As for Fishscale, in the build up to this album I had lower expectations with the announcement of no Rza beats.In addition to the tracks swarming around the net and every website claiming it to be a banger, by the time I had got the album I had this feeling of being short changed - like going to a movie and being told the ending just minutes before the plots climax.
As a result Fishscale came and went, quickly followed by More Fish which I felt had more of an underground album feel as I had little to no expectations. Gradually with time I began to appreciate More Fish and resent Fishscale as a bloated album which was geared for radio - Be easy, back like that, momma....
Although I've always kept the majority of the album on my i-pod I always found it was an album that I would just stick one song on repeat and forget about the album as a whole.
Anyway, after listening to BDR I've got to admit I went back to check and see if I had missed something along the way........YES!!!!
Shakey Dog no longer had the constant reminder of Ghost rhyming over Rae's beat (Pitbulls.) Kilo's was no longer some Dipset sounding track with a vocal sample. The Champ was no longer an attept to recreate a banger over the most aggressive track on the album and finally 9 milli bros wasn't the nightmare cut and paste track that had sub-consciously triggered my finger to hit the forward button.
Instead the album just flows with emotions and moods to boot, almost as eccentric as Ghost himself. The Doom tracks were no longer some "killer" karaoke but tracks like Clipse Of Doom have changed my opinions on Ghosts recycling of beats.
At the end of the album there was nothing to do but hit play and enjoy again, no longer was it a case of certain tracks being held out on there own, but instead the album has matured into another Ghost classic. 9.5/10
sorry guys..but this is an average album
this album ain't that great
Fuckin classic!!! This is one of best Ghost's releases ever!!! I found dope at least 10 tracks!!!
Voted for CLASSIC!
P.E.A.C.E.
I love Ghost (dont we all?) and put Ironman and SC in the all time classic list (where is Ironman in this area btw) but I don't dig this album. 3 Bricks is a major exception although I see it gets much hate here. Personal taste is a funny thing isn't it.
dusted off this release yesterday and bumped it through once yesterday and then another time today with some added bonus tracks from original sessions that didn't make the final cut sprinkled in the mix ("Charlie Brown", replaced "Barbershop" with the original full length version - love the 2nd verse and hook, don't know why the fuck he would cut that out, "Chunky" and "Murda Goons" - all dope songs that would have benefited the album even more).
this album still bangs heavy, lyrically Ghost is true to form here, great storytelling on joints like 'Barbershop', 'Underwater', 'Whip You With A Strap', 'Beauty Jackson' and the obvious 'Shakey Dog'. the way he flexes his lyrical muscles on 'The Champ' is just ridiciolus; "I'm James Bond in the octagon with 2 razors" or "My arts is crafty darts while you stuck with 'Laffy Taffy' wondering how did y'all niggaz get pass me/ i've been doing this before NaS dropped the nasty!!" - ILLLLLL!!
the drug-theme and coca shit is heavy on this album too (hence the name, lol) and is probably Tony's most drugged out effort yet, wheter it's breaking down the game with Raekwon on the heavy but minimalistic 'Kilo' (some people complaining about this one but i've always liked it) or intimite drug stories about overdoses and undercovers on the soulful 'Crack Spot' (another joint that don't get enough praise).
the main problem with the album is that there is so many styles pushed into the 65 minutes and Tony rips all types of beats, from the weirdest MF DOOM beats, to heavy Pete Rock production to traditional R&B-flavoured jams like 'Momma' and 'Back Like That'. while it's all over the place it still can be looked at as Ghost showing off his diversity and it really ain't that much to complain about imo. some parts of the album could definitely have been EQ'd and mixed better though; for example the Clan cut sounds (as most of y'all already mentioned) very cut-and-paste except for Ghost, Rae's and Cappa's verses so half of the song seems kinda wasted despite the, in my opinion, extremely dope beat. "Jellyfish" is another throwaway and "Three Bricks" should have been placed on the Biggie Duets album rather than here. Still a very solid effort from Tony Starks and for some reason very overlooked on Wu-Tangs own site while every other publiciations praised the shit out of it, lol. Without a doubt one of the 10 best Wu-Tang albums between 2000-2009 as of yet.
4/5
"the magical mystery tour of rap," so said one critic. couldn't have said it better myself. dope album, versatile as hell
I don't understand the somewhat lukewarm reception this album got here. Album is the shit!
how is there all this hate for "jellyfish"????
jellyfish was the first song i loved from this album. super dope unique beat that sounds like it sampled a tiny piece of some 70's shaft joint.
the 3 verses are ALL dope!!!!!
but yes, wiggs is wack on the hook.
The verses are solid enough, I don't know about "dope". You're right though, I love the tune. It works perfectly fine within the context of the album.Quote:
Originally Posted by pmack215
3rd best Ghost album. Superior!