opinions dont have right or wrong answer im afraid ... thats why theyre called opinions ... this thread keeps on keepin on ... shit ... why is it so hard to admit ghost has dumbed down his shit ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherz
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opinions dont have right or wrong answer im afraid ... thats why theyre called opinions ... this thread keeps on keepin on ... shit ... why is it so hard to admit ghost has dumbed down his shit ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherz
hide1998, I have said everything I need to say to you. You either can’t or won’t comprehend what I’m saying to you, and I am no longer willing to waste my time repeating myself to you. On top of this cd has also tried explaining the fact that you are repeatedly choosing to dismiss and neglect everything I say, despite the fact that I have explained everything to you in a reasonable manner.
If you’re as unsettled by all this as you appear to be, just read the last couple of pages over and over and you’ll get it eventually.
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Originally Posted by Tonearm_Terrorwrist
u answered it urself lol
ITS JUST UR OPINION, WHICH MEANS IT DOESNT HAVE A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER
listen to the tracks he did with DOOM, Angeles, and Alex, thats him, as creative as ever. Hes just dumbing down a bit for Def Jam
this thread spiralled...
ghost has changed, some people like it some dont, simple.
if you cant admit he has changed from SC to Fishscale then your opinion is wrong.
Although noel hasn't showed at all how Ghostface is like G-Unit (the example HE brought up), let alone like the rest of mainstream/commercial hip-hop, I really haven't a single problem with him feeling Ghostface more back in the day. That's his business. Since this board isn't noel's personal blog, making a topic entitled "Ghost Fell Off & Became Boring" without expecting people to say more than "You're right son!" doesn't make sense. Apparently I'm, as of right now, the only person really calling him out for making unrealistic comparisons in a way of adding strength to his words. Just because he throws something out there, doesn't make it so. If he listens to the radio whenever he goes to a friends how then that completely contradicts what he stated initially.
All this "Ghost admits he dumbed down his lyrics" is completely irrelevant because at NO point did I make an argument like "noel, Ghostface is much more complex rapper nowadays than he was back in the day, therefore you can't possibly feel him more back in the day than you do now." Bringing up things like that further diverts from the point I was specifically going at (btw, how is a hook from a song like "Ghostface" anything like G-Unit? People are harping on that like that's noel's example for comparison. Strange. I guess Z-ro is like Nelly. How so? Well..they both harmonize, so that's what makes them similar. Of course it doesn't, but apparently that falls as a good comparison in this thread). noel's support in this thread is pretty clear, so I gotta give him props for finding people to back him up even after he hasn't proved anything (again, I have NOT at any point stated "noel, you're wrong for feeling Ghostface more back in the day.")
I find offense with that statement^^^^ I tried but gave up
I see you’re still troubled by these same “issues”. I guess you didn’t follow the advice of my last post. Seriously dude, if this shit is troubling you so much please just re-read the thread. There are repeated reasonable and valid explanations for all these things you have issues with. I assure you. Just keep looking and eventually you will see it. You may need to let go of your perceived depiction of what I am saying and keep trying over and over until you actually see my words for what they are, but if that’s what it takes to give you peace of mind then it might not be such a bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by hide1998
As for you being the only one "calling me out", did you ever stop to think that maybe this is because you are the only person here having difficulty interpreting what I'm saying, or recognising the validity of my explanations for all these supposed flaws you are making up?
so ... ghost admitts he dumbed down his shit so it just becomes my opinion ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah
Is this thread a beautifulrock vs Noell Thread?
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I dunno what it is...but Ghost is one of my favorite MC's of all time. Probably my favorite MC in the Wu...
I like his lyrics, yeah at times you have lyrics similar to other rappers (jewelry, drug hustle, bitches) but I think Ghost just does it with such energy, style, and slang that it's always interesting. Plus you always got his story telling raps like "Alex" from More Fish, and off the wall insane shit like Underwater from Fishscale. And technically I think he's on point 24/7. Dope voice, dope flow, delivery, etc. etc....
Just my two cents...
Oh and Noel...just curious...what do you like better, Ironman or SC?
EDIT: lol...I look like a dickridin fag comin into this topic with my username/sig...
LOL change it quickly and noone will know :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Deini
What's gooooddd Jeru.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
Chillin' bro', damn all the old heads are comin back.How you been man?
Pretty good pretty good. Just workin, enjoyin life, buildin with the family you know. I like to take random long asss breaks from the internet and my regular spots (like the corp) but I couldn't leave it for good haha, plus seems like Wu is really on the move in 07.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
LOL, let's hope so.It's hard to leave this place I know LOL.Good to have you back ( untill the next random long ass break ).:D
Haha chea. I'll probably stick around for a while, bit more settled down now wit life in general so got more time to be bored around the house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
Plus I feel cool as shit with this "veteran" name with the W next to it.
LMAO, I don't like them grey names.It's like seperating the jews from the "normal" people in WW2.And everybody whoring around to get it, when it's not necesary IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Deini
I like 'Ironman' better than SC by a very large margin. They're really not even comparable to me. Although having said that, I still think SC is a great album.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Deini
Whenever I see a name like yours in this thread I expect to see some upset little punk insulting me, but most the Ghost fans actually seem to be civil these days. A few years back if you said something negative about Ghost on here you could expect to get pages full of childish insults thrown at you. So that's cool. But yeah, you're not exactly the only person on here who has named himself after a Wu member. The "dickridin' fags" are the people who get upset when somebody doesn't like their favourite rapper though.
I told myself I wouldn't visit BTR again until this thread is off the first page and I accidently did today. It sparked the same feeling I had when I first saw it... whaaaat the fuck.
"Smokin' too much, that shit is absurd!!!!!"
Yo, Noel can you excuse my laziness and please summarize your criticism of Ghost because I don't feel like reading 11 pages right now, but I am interested in what you have to say. And although I doubt I'll agree with I respect you for being genuinely critical which is rare around here.
he says ghost is like g unit..... lol
this thread has turned into the equivalent of a wank sock
Basically I haven't added anything new since my first post. I have had to repeat myself to a few people who couldn't accept my opinion, but it's pretty much all there in the first post. I just think the music Ghost has put out over the last few years has had little-to-no appeal, and he has become a very average artist in all regards. Lyrically I think he has become un-captivating and often cliche. As a whole I think his product has been very forgettable over the last few years. Each to their own though. If you're still enjoying his music then good for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetsuo
ghostface is better than ever and with albums like bulletproof wallets and pretty toney i dont see how anyone can say hes not better than every other mc is the existance of hip hop.
*smashes face on computer*
he's the G.O.A.T.
he was always good but not my favorite...
I see th Ghostface hate is wide awake.
I like Ghost man, if anything hes better than your boy Deck who can hardly say hes consistent.
How is fishscale forgetable? It's a fuckin modern day classic. Threadstarter is gay.