REST IN PARADISE WARCLOUD

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Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN

His time in Boston was good for him as well as Gage and them had his back

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I checked the tracks he recorded with Gage in 2006, last night - actually pretty good (Shaka put them out a few months ago)

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Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN

I ran into him when i was in LA about a year prior to his death . I was there for a coen brothers film event (friends of mine ) and i won’t lie . He looked really beaten down. After that he went on iron vacation . Called me when he got out briefly talking about something to out of human comprehension i just sat on the phone and told him if he ever needed anything . I got him .

I’ll say this . Cloud finally spiraled after the death of his grandma . She gave him stability somewhat. His time in Boston was good for him as well as Gage and them had his back but those of us who know . We know things really went downhill when this one chick came outta nowhere claiming to be his handler/ manager and started isolating him from everyone who fucked with him. I’ll boldly even say, a lot of the records y’all bought back in the day. The money was prolly going to her pockets . She took advantage of him and kept him away from people who cared about him. The irony is . I haven’t heard shit from her since he passed . I guess when she realized he couldn’t get her into Rza’s bed . She abandoned him like many of these vultures do when they have no use for you anymore . It’s sad really.

another thing to put out there because I’m seeing people blaming drugs and alchohol for his demise . He indulged yes but he was also a diagnosed skitzo so please bare in mine that there were health related issues the man had to deal with. And also keep in mind that he died in police custody. Answers are needed about that. If you know anything about the LAPD …. Then you know why red flags are up.

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Man fuck her. Mental health issues are no joke. There's a special place in hell for people that would take advantage

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Originally Posted by CL2coming

I checked the tracks he recorded with Gage in 2006, last night - actually pretty good (Shaka put them out a few months ago)

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I was lucky enough to cop the original single from Gage way back - I think I have a rip on an old HDD. I'd be happy to upload it if anyone is interested when I have time

Please

@Radioactive, Thanks for sharing. Thats fucked up. I've seen the same thing happen to musical geniuses with mental issues. Kool Keith is in the same period of his career. This chick has him dressing 30 years too young and rapping about clothes and cars and being the opposite of what he stood for. Shit is sad. Reminds me of Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys and his wife who had him out there looking goofy and forced because she was basically a glorified nurse/manager. Thankfully that bitch just died.

Talking about his substance abuse, no doubt that contributed to his death. He looked physically about 10 years older than he was. And we all know he had issues like schizophrenia. But it all unraveled for him when RZA had him smoking dust. Not totally blaming RZA, but a millionaire older producer says he's going to make you a big star and gives you a drug that literally makes you a psycho, its fucking irresponsible of him especially since he calls Wu artists his "pupils". And then dropped him and shelved the album his entire life. That definitely depressed Holo more.

I've done dust and personally seen it destroy young friends. Overdosing (not "ODing" but just taking too much of a drug) can permanently damage your brain. Especially in a young cat. It can trigger schizophrenia in people who didn't have it. Plus, people who get institutionalized are rarely the same after it. ODB was messed up by it. U-God talks about the drugs they give you to sedate you. It takes away your inner monologue and dulls you, like a lobotomy. So it wasn't just his own mind but the way others wrongly treated it.

Holocaust went from a regular but very smart hood dude to rapping about "I only salute apple sandwiches" in ONE YEAR. Its also the crazy 5 Percenter cult shit RZA was telling these guys while on the drugs. Imagine being 20 from the hood and a guy gives you PCP and says "You're God". Ghost went through the same mental issues before leaving that 5% shit. ODB and RZA were paranoid and weird because Popa Wu brainwashed them with Supreme Mathematics from a young age. The whole movement was started by a drug addict preaching to a gang of teen boys that they are God if they gave him drugs and money. That what 5 Percenters are supposed to do btw. Thats what the WTC is: 1 5 Percenter with 8/9 under him like a cult/gang he controls. The Cypher, but they called it Chambers. When the Clan got tired of RZA, he went to LA and tried it with the Black Knights with Warcloud as his new ODB. "Do drugs, be crazy, say the Black Man is God but change your name because it offends my Jewish boss." If you know, you know. Research who RZA signed ODB to against ODB's wishes.

Sorry to hear that his Grandmother died I remember when I met Blue Sky Black Death, they mentioned him living with his Grandmother in Gardena or Glendale, forgot which one. Glad that Gage was holding Warcloud down out there. I even saw Bomshot show him love on Instagram. I wonder if Guarded By Martrys and Tekken000 are aware of his death? They contributed a lot to this thread, even Angry/Reanimated and CeitedMofo/Heat. Their hate posts are part of the reason Warcloud's thread is so damn big.. About half of those two hundred something pages are hate posts from them, l.o.l.

I'm gonna say one more thing because I feel very passionate about Holocaust's life ending so sadly. These Wu niggas were biting his style a lot in the late 90s. He was basically the West Coast Killah Priest or Shyheim. And its fucked up they didn't shout him out or give a guest feature or something. He was in their cypher just like the top Killa Bees. He helped them eat. They should be paying off his damn gofundme 10x over. Don't get me started on how he kept Wu Tang relevant to underground heads when most of them sold out in the 2000s.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/306009380287 Was looking for Holocaust/Warcloud stuff on eBay. Would love to cop this, but it is a little too rich for my blood right now.. Perhaps somebody on here would be interested..

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Originally Posted by David Daniel Davis

https://www.ebay.com/itm/306009380287 Was looking for Holocaust/Warcloud stuff on eBay. Would love to cop this, but it is a little too rich for my blood right now.. Perhaps somebody on here would be interested..

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Ain't that just the BSOM trilogy package of that Unreleased & Lost BSBD re-release?

I think so, yeah.. Would be great to finally have all of those on c.d.

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Originally Posted by hiphopjunky

I was lucky enough to cop the original single from Gage way back - I think I have a rip on an old HDD. I'd be happy to upload it if anyone is interested when I have time

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Here is the Gage-One/Holocaust EP: https://file.io/0tW2Np8useRR

Reading about the shelved projects: RZA should dig this stuff out of the vault, get a proper release lined up, and then have the funds from the sales sent to his family. Has RZA even acknowledged Holocaust's passing?

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Originally Posted by hiphopjunky

Here is the Gage-One/Holocaust EP: https://file.io/0tW2Np8useRR

Reading about the shelved projects: RZA should dig this stuff out of the vault, get a proper release lined up, and then have the funds from the sales sent to his family. Has RZA even acknowledged Holocaust's passing?

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File is saying deleted?

I imagine releasing an unreleased album from a deceased artist is a legal minefield. Also I'd be surprised if anyone has an albums worth of unreleased material from the OG Holocaust period, even RZA.

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Originally Posted by hiphopjunky

Here is the Gage-One/Holocaust EP: https://file.io/0tW2Np8useRR

Reading about the shelved projects: RZA should dig this stuff out of the vault, get a proper release lined up, and then have the funds from the sales sent to his family. Has RZA even acknowledged Holocaust's passing?

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Only Wu fam I’ve seen acknowledge Holo’s transition are Prodigal, Dom P, Priest, Crisis, and obviously Christbearer. Haven’t really checked others, but I doubt anything from RZA. I don’t even think he acknowledged 12 O’clock and Murdoc years ago and that was his fam. Not everything needs to be public acknowledgment tho, we don’t know what’s goin on behind the scenes…

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Originally Posted by Sky Blue Bally Kid

File is saying deleted?

I imagine releasing an unreleased album from a deceased artist is a legal minefield. Also I'd be surprised if anyone has an albums worth of unreleased material from the OG Holocaust period, even RZA.

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Looks like file.io deletes after the first download, so someone grabbed it :)

Try this https://fastupload.io/1c05e3aa756e4c27

Damn, just heard. RIP. This one hits hard. Pinky Violence is a classic. Terrible news