nice, I'll look into it some timeQuote:
Originally Posted by arto
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nice, I'll look into it some timeQuote:
Originally Posted by arto
the point is you can't. i think it's good being fundamental, but it's not good being too fundamental. like if i was purely fundamental with my beliefs, i'd be smashing this computer up. you can truly believe in something without getting into semantics about it, and without going too far as to inconvenience your life, because you won't get anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder1
Did you ever think that that's the point? The difference between me and you is, I'm making statements that spark thought. You on the other hand are stating "facts" in an attempt to win an argument. Right now you are trying to draw me into an argument, unsucessfully at that, because I'm no longer going to respond to you.Quote:
y'see this's what i'm talking about. make your statements clearer, then people won't need to question them as much. like what you said, especially the last snetence, could be taken a number of ways, really.
Marauder, PEACE.
I understand where you are coming from, but what I'm trying to say is, I doubt people are going to just give up their luxuries too, but in a couple years luxuries aren't going to exist.
there is some good points being made here
but
the discussion is getting nowhere
we should flush out the points being made here
theres about a half dozen people comin from different angles
we are talking about
possessions
laws
ambitions
etc
lets narrow it all down
break it down for us L
dude! i am so not trying to argue with you! i'm just trying to explain to you why people are getting a little tetchy at you!Quote:
Originally Posted by TeknicelStylez
be cool, my friend. there's no hard feelings on this side. peace.
LHX, i wanna hear more from your brain, my friend. i've only been here a few days and i already sense the intellect behind your sayings. why don't you start us off with something?
None on this side either.
I don't mind if people get angry at my statements, it's their view point. As you can see by my text I'm very calm (lol).
I appologize if I come off high and mighty, I assure you I love you all like you were my flesh and blood and would never place you above or below me.
me personally, i wouldn't smash the computer. i would embrace it. disregarding the shallow (but humorous) things we receive on the net, this is an extremely powerful tool. whats makes this world go round are consumers. corporations sell and we buy. well take a good look at the crap society buys. quite frankly 95 to 99% of it we don't need, but hey we like these things. I like my ipod, i like my guitar, i like my TV and my Acura. I like my nextel phone, i like pizza and strawberry shakes. So call me a victim of the Matrix as you please lol
yeah dude, that's how i feel. i think you think in a similar way to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder1
is cool. you gain my respect for believing in what you say, brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeknicelStylez
hahaaaaaQuote:
Originally Posted by TeknicelStylez
90 posts is a lot to go thru
the main question seems to be this
what constitutes 'life on earth'?
what are these 'arts and sciences' that people deem important?
is life itself not an art and science?
what is the point of proceeding if we cannot even master a sustainable existence on this planet?
and as for my original hunch -
if we shunned and rejected luxury and desire - we would be a lot better able to have a sustainable existence
maybe everybody should state in a few words what their point of view is on those issues
maybe we need to open a new thread
marauder
arto
denaturat
tek
drop some feedback
where are we disagreeing?
I understand 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder1
The thing is I don't have most of these things, I think internet is probably one of my only luxuries. I don't even have food as a luxury, just before I went to the supermarket with my family's last 7 dollars till friday to attempt to purchase something for dinner with just 3 of those dollars so that my mother can use the other 4 to put what little amount of gas she possibly can in her tank to get to work. Nothing luxurious about my lifestyle. I don't own a home phone, I don't own a car, basically since I was about 12 years old my only possessions were the clothes on my back. I would just bounce back and forth between homes with a small garbage bag containing a couple of my belongings, but I never held onto a possession for over a year.
I remember at one point in time my room was just completely empty with a sleeping bag in the corner, I lived like that for almost a year.
are you suggesting that we misused our God given intelligence? that we corrupted it with greed and gluttony? that we used it for our own personal advantage instead of shedding light on the ignorant? that we forgot to show peace and love to all instead of going by Survival of The Fittest.
In lamest terms, that's what i think went wrong