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I think religion exists to protect us from spirituality. We, meaning mankind in general, contructed it so as to appease our curiousity about the spiritual world and guide us in the absence of this knowledge. The way the world REALLY works and methods of manipulation of its workings is not knowledge meant for everyone. Personally, I'm not sure if I'd inflict that knowledge on ANYONE.
religion is the root of all evil. money too.
I disagree. They don't have overlapping characteristics, however, due to misinterpretations/misunderstandings or just not knowing (what they mean) they are used interchangleble.Quote:
They aren't the same, however they do have some overlap in characteristics.
I agree with you here. Especially with the believing part.Quote:
Some people believe that their definitions are "correct" and the others have comprehension problems. This approach will take us nowhere.
It's easy for the majority of a population to understand when they all running around with misinformation. America, a christian nation. Do you think the majority of people are going to understand ideas/words outside of that?Quote:
I guess you are right that sometimes people deliberately try to equivocate terms. But on the other hand, sometimes another closely related conceptual word doesn't suit their ideas/motives and they use one largely known word and use it to try to keep things simple. In many cases their ideas are still valid if most of the population understands.
Again, gotta disagree(some words are defined with a bias slant to it, but english is a biased language). Every word is a concept which has meaning and the word is used to convey the individuals concept or idea. That's language. Words are used to express an idea, and each word has a meaning.Quote:
As far as things already defined, concepts are NEVER defined precisely no matter what dictionaries you look in.
The dictionary/encyclopedia and other reference books with a similiar nature of a dictioanary may not be exact, it's a universal foundation for people who speak the language in which the dictionary is written to agree on the meaning of the word. That way there can be communication. People choose not to accept specific words (religion, culture, spirit(uality), ethnicity, nation, nationality) for various reasons some you probably know and some may be unknown.
good add on.
peace.
I didn't start the thread, but since you want to single me out for participating, is it not allowed of me to participate in these threads?Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
Another moderator pretty much agreed with what I said, so what's the problem LHX?
Religion: Answers to questions we'll never know for the scared and ignorant
Why is it then, within the institution of religion, it's normal to hear, "don't question either god or the book they accept as the word of god" and when questions are asked, the answer is normally, "just have faith." Where's the answers???Quote:
Originally Posted by DJMethods
Look up a concept in the dictionary, all they can do is briefly explain it with referring to another concept (perhaps if you really don't know the other concept, you need to look up that one too). Since it was used to describe that concept, they are closely related. For example, "who is a 'weirdo' and who is 'eccentric'? There are differences, but there is overlap in these terms too. For the case in this thread its just simply a disagreement in the differences and similarities of the more difficult concepts being described, hence it is very difficult for all parties to convince each other and it can only be left at that.
It is true that people do use some terms interchangeable when they shouldn't and sometimes it makes a flaw in their argument, and other times it can be used to test the validity of a statement someone made. For example, Charging Soldier thought he could use the term "male" when you were using the word "man" and you [Black Man] used that word for a reason. There can be overlap in those 2 words since one might say "a man is a human adult male so all men are males" However there was an obvious misconception there. Charging Solider implied that " black man" is a subset of "black male", but (for that case discussed anyway) there was a distinct difference in the context. Therefore he may have been testing the validity of the statement by switching to another close term. However the rebuttal was just a false implication. Two differences in understandings of terms.
However I guess its the way we have been taught how to make "interesting writing" by using more than one redundant word. We always need to be careful when explaining validity from making what you write/say sound better to the audience.
I'll have to agree with this, but leave out "ignorant", only because some people may not have a depth of understanding as others.Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidSwordz
Like Rakim said, "He Is What Always Was." To give a broader example, one of the recitations that Muslims recite during prayer reads, "Be begetteth not, nor is He begotten and there is none comparable unto Him."
In truth, to ask who created The Creator is a bit comical. Think about it, just look at the question, "Who created THE CREATOR?" It makes no sense really. I understand that asking questions may be easier for most than actually following a doctrine, but certain questions make others question your reason for asking to begin with and what was on your mind when you asked.
If I were to say, "No one created The Creator.", by and large, the respose would be, "How do you know." Proving that one party has faith and the other doesn't. So, the answer to that question depends entirely on you as far as personal satisfaction. It doesn't change anything really, because while people will say, "That's your opinion and I'm entitled to mine." There's always 3 sides to a story. My side, your side and the truth. The paradox is that one of the first two sides is kith and kin to the last.
This, in my opinion, is a clear cut case of disbelief. For which there is no remedy outside of the person or persons affected.
i deny jesus christ the deceiver and i abjure the christian faith, holding in contempt all of its works. by the symbol of the creator, i swear henceforth to be a faithful servant of his most puissant archangel, the prince Lucifer.
kiss the goat!
This is not a definitionQuote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
this forum is awful,
it used to be ok 3 years ago
im not singling you out for participatingQuote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
im singling you out because your responses are weak sometimes
its trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Shropsher_Slasher
there are so many elements at work obscuring a deeper understanding of the life experience other than the conventional 'run away from bad things' and 'chase your desires'
intellectually, we all know that a fear of death is unreasonable, and we all know that hate, lust and jealousy are unreasonable
BUT
a mechanism is in place to keep these things around
within the span of seven breaths, a person can tell you that jealousy is bad and then have a moment where he sees something/thinks of something that causes him to be motivated by jealousy
it is some form of schizophrenia - a split mind
tying this all back to the god question:
it is the same element at work
people ask what god is - meanwhile they are god themselves
god trying to define itself
and the issue has been so twisted and confused that people just dont understand the foundation that allows them to even ask the question 'what is god?'
this is one extended period of adjustment
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Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
exactly.....................HOPE=LIFE
"22:73 O men! Here is a parable set forth! listen to it! Those on whom, besides Allah, ye call, cannot create (even) a fly, if they all met together for the purpose! and if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition!"Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
The Quran -Translation Chapter: Al-Hajj
ur a god?
create something then!
snatch something from an insect!!!