people originating in africa. like the hebrews
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people originating in africa. like the hebrews
-Well, memoryman, as you can tell from our posts it's a matter of perspective and pride. I am Afro-Latino, and it is a source of pride to say "Negro" and "Negroid" in my culture. It is a source of pride to know we are strong, and we do things that most people would only dream of doing. Our music, our food, our language- all this is a source of pride to me. Because of this I accept the anthropological classification of "black" as referring to those with predominantly Sub-Saharan African physical traits, normally referred to in the scientific community as Congoid and formerly Negroid. I believe a major problem with this debate is that I am the only one that has even attempted to define "black" and all others are simply using it as a blanket term referring to all people "of color" and/or all "dark skinned" peoples. Though I do believe these people have roots in Africa, they are not "black" anthropologically and/or ethnically. For instance- I believe the Olmecs were black African sailors who visited various areas of Polynesia and the Americas hundreds- if not thousands- of years ago and left behind genetic traits. The Aztecs, Incas, and Maya are all descendants of the Olmecs ETHNICALLY, though maybe not purely racially their descendants. If you think of what a African mixed with an Asian looks like, you get pretty much what most American Indians look like, and that's where I think their ancestors came from. That is not to say, however, that the American Indians are "black" though I theorize their ancestors were black African Olmecs (notice I specified "theorize").Quote:
Originally Posted by memoryman
I am also a student of religion, and strongly oppose the notion that God has a "chosen people" which is the root of the desire for others to claim Hebrews as kin. The Hebrews accomplished nothing more than I can claim my verifiable ancestors did, and I not only see no evidence the Hebrews are "closely" related to me, but I see no desire in being related or associated with Hebrews for any reason other than "friendship" or shared mutual respect.
you're on point, Mangani.
I'm considering it, but were from two completely different cultures in terms of gun rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
-Is there a reason why Americans should have guns and not Australians???Quote:
Originally Posted by Trismegistos
By the way, do you get New Zealand radio? You can hear my music on KFM 106.9 on Sundays.
Not that there is a reason why Americans should have guns but a completely different culture. The United States has about 200 million guns in private hands. In Australia there is no need for firearms.Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
Start the debate and I'll take you on at it, but I can say that Europeans and Australians would be heavily anti-firearm whilst Americans are fairly pro-firearms. Still I can argue that point.
No can't pick up KFM but it is on the internet though.
there is no buts, you butt - if i'm right i'm right - your point and thought process is null and voidQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
trying so hard to be smart - trying so hard to be right
black people are not limited to the african continent you fool
what word - idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
i'ma make this all easy so that even you can understand it - if you were to go back in time and bring all of the ancient hebrews, and place them in front of the world, every one would call them black people - and white supremist would call them niggersQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
lmao - nigga shut up - you don't know how stupid you sound give us the historical data on the talking snake that made eve take of the tree of good and evil
i figured that would go over your tall ass headQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
i'm talking about you you mentioning the words "biblical history"
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Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
yeah yeah yeah - there are allot of things you can't see and you proved that in this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
nah - i don't know what that meanst - tell me what it meanstQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
you are not good at this - fall back
you need to attempt to educate yourself - its a hard task but try it -Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
knowledge of self is the highest knowledge you can obtain
thats what it is now, what was it before - words in the dictionary have changed or been taken out of the dictionary all together just because white supremist wanna hide who and what we are - you go along with what they are teaching, and you look, sound so stupid doing itQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
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Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
nigga shut up
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Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
he can get his point across - he's just frustrated because his daddy don't understand the simplest shit -Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
you playing yourself...againQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
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Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
being sick is not the same as not feeling well either huh
the tribes that occupied arabia way back were the 12 tribes of Israel - they are called hebrews - and they are blackQuote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
good job buddy ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WuLatino- MANGANI
yousa corny ass movaphuka
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listen you pus filled twinkie looking movaphuka.....fuck your thought process -
The nature of self destruction part 4A
Posted By: Sabree Muhammad
Date: 3, January 08, at 1:04 a.m.May Allah be Praised Forever: beloved Right, please read attached{Black Hebrews?
The very words cause many people to grin at what appears to be simply a play on words. No one reads about such people in european authored history books and there are only a few references to "Ethiopian Jews" in white Jewish sources. Yet Black Hebrews have existed since biblical times. In fact, they are the original or proto-typical Hebrews.
Their story begins with the Patriarch Abraham (2117-1942 B.C.), a native of the Sumerian city of Ur in ancient Mesopotamia. Archaeological discoveries have proven that the earliest inhabitants of southern Mesopotamia were members of the "Brown Race," i.e., the Negroid branch of humanity.
It has been confirmed that the ancient Sumerians were akin to the modern Black Dravidians of India. The Sumerians also had an affinity with a people known as the Elamites, the very first Semitic group mentioned in the Bible (Gen. 10:22). The Elamites were a black-skinned and woolly-haired people as the colorful glazed artwork on the royal palace walls of the ancient Persian city of Susa clearly show.Thus Abraham, the native of Sumerian and the founding father of the Israelite nation, was a black man. The black racial origins of the Patriarchs is not based on mere conjecture, it is in complete agreement with the picture one gets from examining the identity of the earliest inhabitants of southern Mesopotamia.
This truth is grossly neglected, suppressed, and distorted in most European and American historical texts which are flavored with race prejudice. Fortunately, however, there are enough well authored and highly researched works by Black historians that challenge the Eurocentric revisions of history and correct the various erroneous views regarding the ethnic identity of the Hebrews.
Biblical history relates that the descendants of Abraham, namely Jacob (Israel) and his twelve sons and their wives, 70 in all, migrated from Canaan to Egypt around the year 1827 B.C. During their sojourn in Egypt the Children of Israel multiplied from being a family of 70 souls to a nation of over 3 million people at the time of the Exodus which took place in 1612 B.C.
This astounding number of people in so short a time can only be adequately explained by intermarriage between the family of Jacob and the native Egyptian populace. It is an established fact that the ancient Egyptians were a black African people. Thus, even if the Hebrews were not black before they arrived in Egypt, which is unlikely given Abraham's background, they were definitely black by the time they left Egypt under Moses.
The biblical Hebrews were indistinguishable from native Egyptians and Ethiopians. The Bible is full of examples which demonstrates this, and even ancient secular historians remarked of the physical appearances of the Hebrews. The historian Tacitus, for example, stated that it was a common opinion among the Romans that the Jews "were an Ethiopian race." In Roman times PalestinianIsraelites were classed among Black Africans because it was almost impossible to tell them apart...
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so are modern arabs black?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggy
Memoryman, where in this quote am I talking about modern Arabs?Quote:
Originally Posted by diggy
Try using your eyes instead. :mmmyah:
Herodotus, 485-425BC, the father of history, further said concerning the ancient Egyptians:
“It is in fact manifested that the Colchidians are Egyptian by race. Several Egyptians told me that in their opinion that the Colchidians were descendants of the soldiers of Sesostris. I had conjectured as much myself from two pointers, firstly because they have black skins and kinky hair, and secondly more reliably for the reason that alone among mankind, the Egyptians and the Ethiopians have practiced circumcision since time immemorial. The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine themselves admit that they learnt the practice from the Egyptians, while the Syrians in the river Thermodon and the Pathenoise region and their neighbours the Macrons say they learnt it recently from the Colchidians. These are the only races which practice circumcision, and it is observable that they do it in the same way with the Egyptians. As between the Egyptians themselves and the Ethiopians, I can not say which of them taught the other the practice, for among them; it is quite clearly a custom of great contiguity. As to the further strong proof to my belief is that all those Phoenicians trading to Greek cease to treat the pudenda after the Egyptian manner and do not subject their offspring to concussion”.
And by the way, since Hebrews were Egyptians and Egyptians were BLACK...
Linguistic similarities between Ancient Egyptian and Yoroba.
Egyptian words on left, Yoraba words on right:
EGYPT YORUBA
1. Wu (rise) Wu (rise)
2. Ausa (Osiris, father of the gods) Ausa (father)
3. Ere (python/ Serpent) Ere (Python / Serpent)
4. Horise (a great god) Orise (a great god)
5. Sen (group of worshippers) Sen ( to worship)
6. Ged (to chant0 Igede (a chant)
7. Ta (sell / offer) Ta (sell/offer)
8. Sueg (a fool) Suegbe (a fool)
9. On ( living person) One ( living person)
10. Kum (a club) Kumo( a club)
11. Enru (fear / terrible) Eru (fear / terrible
12. Kun / qun (brave man) Ekun (title of a brave man)
13. Win (to be) Wino (to be)
14. Odonit (festival) Odon (festival)
15. Ma or mi (to breath) Mi. (to breathe)
16. Tebu (a town) Tebu (a town)
17. Adumu (a water god) Adumu (a water god)
18. Khu (to kill) Ku (die)
19. Rekha (knowledge} Larikha (knowledge)
20 Hika (evil) Ika (evil)
21 Mhebi (humble) Mebi, humble to ones family
22 Sata (perfect) Santan (perfect)
23 Unas (lake of fire) Una (fire)
24 Tan (complete) Tan (complete)
25 Beru (force of emotion) Beru (fear)
26 Em (smell) Emi (smell)
27 Pa (open) Pa (break open)
28 Bi (to become) Bi (to give birth, to become)
29 Hepi (a water god) Ipi (a water god)
30 Sami (water god) Sami (a water god)
31 Osiri (a water god) Oshiri (a water god)
32 Heqet – Re (frog deity) Ekere (the frog)
33 Feh (to go away) Feh (to blow away)
34 Kot (build) Ko (build)
35 Kot (boat) Oko (boat)
36 Omi (water) Omi (water)
37 Ra (time) Ira (time)
38 Oni (title of Osiris) Oni (title of the king of Ife)
39 Budo (dwelling place) Budo (dwelling place)
40 Dudu (black image of Osiris) Dudu (black person)
41 Un (living person) Una (living person)
42 Ra (possess) Ra (possess/buy)
43 Beka (pray/confess) Be or ka (to pray or confess)
44 Po (many) Po (many/cheap)
45 Horuw (head) middle Egyptian Oruwo (head) (Ijebu)
46 Min (a god) Emin (spirit)
47 Ash (invocation) Ashe (invocation)
48 Aru (mouth) Arun (mouth ) Ilaje
49 Do (river) Odo (river)
50 Do (settlement) Udo (settlement)
51 Shekiri (water god) Shekiri (a water god)
52 Bu (a place) Bu ,a place
53 Khepara (beetle Akpakara (beetle)
54 No (a water god Eno (a water god)
55 Ra -Shu (light after darkness Uran-shu (the light of the moon
56 Run-ka (spirit name) Oruko (name)
57 Deb/dib to pierce Dibi (to pierce)
58 Maat (goddess of justice Mate (goddess of justice)
59 Aru (rise) Ru (rise up)
60 Fa (carry) Fa (pull)
61 Kaf (pluck) Ka (pluck)
62 Bu bi (evil place) Bubi (evil place)
63 In- n (negation In-n (negation)
64 Iset (a water god) Ise (a water god)
65 Shabu (watcher) Ashonbo (watcher)
66 Semati (door keeper) Sema (lock/shut the door)
67 Khenti amenti (big words of Osiris Yenti – yenti (big, very big)
68 Ma (to know) Ma (to know)
69 Bebi, a son of osiris) Ube, a god
70 Tchatcha chief (they examined the death to see if they tricked tsatsa (a game of tricks, gambling )
71 Ren( animal foot) Ren (to walk)
72 Ka (rest) Ka (rest/tired)
73 Mu (water) Mu (drink water)
74 Abi (against) Ubi (against / impediment)
75 Reti (to beseech) Retin (to listen)
76 Hir (praise) Yiri (praise)
77 Ta(spread out) Ta (spread out)
78 Kurud (round) Kurudu (round)
79 Ak – male Ako (male)
80 Se – to create Se (to create)
81 Hoo (rejoice) Yo (rejoice)
82 Kamwr (black) Kuru (extremely black
83 Omitjener (deep water) Omijen (deep water)
84 Nen, the primeval water mother) Nene (mother
85 Ta (land) Ita (land junction)
86 Horiwo (head) Oriwo (head)
87 Ro (talk) Ro (to think)
88 Kurubu (round) Kurubu (deep and round)
89 Penka (divide) Kpen (divide)
90 Ma-su (to mould) Ma or su (to mould)
91 Osa (time) Osa (time)
92 Osa (tide) Osa ( tide)
93 Fare (wrap) Fari (wrap)
94 Kom (complete) Kon (complete)
95 Edjo (cobra) Edjo (cobra)
96 Didi (red fruit) Diden (red)
97 Ba (soul) Oba (king) soul of a people
98 Ke (hill) Oke( hill
99 Anubis (evil deity) Onubi (evil person)
100 Kan (one: Middle Egyptian) Okan one)
101 Nam (water god) Inama (water god) The words above are used to show that most Yoruban words are identical to the ancient Egyptian.
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bi...ames/read/2139
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Originally Posted by diggy
members of the "Brown Race," i.e., the Negroid branch of humanity.
modern arabs are brown...
"Modern Arabs" are not brown ( at least most of them; they are beige).Quote:
Originally Posted by memoryman
People who are brown are the people the white man calls black. My skin is literally brown.
U have nothing to contribute to this thread. U are stuck on who is the "Brown Race" even thou it says "i.e., the Negroid branch of humanity" because u do not accept the truth.
You are blind, deaf and dumb.
Get the fuck out of this thread.
http://www.dealbreaker.com/images/en...g_w300h300.jpg
why should i believe that "the brown race" equates to "the negroid branch of humanity" when other races have brown skin? also, that beige thing is silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by diggy