allot of them are good people who are easy to take an advantage of
people who will do anything for you
and they got played hard for being nice
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apart frm drugs is there any other main reasons that there homeless people? jus out of interest
and also why dont you go to a shelter or something rather than sit there begging on the street
also im surprised they barely ever mug people or rob shit
the homeless pop. in America is pretty diverse.
many substance abusers and mentally ill, but also many runaways, children, women etc. for whom life took a wrong turn somewhere.
regardless, imagine the struggle of trying to get a job once you've lived on the dirty streets for a week, no shower, malnutrioned, no address, money or car etc.
^^Finally somebody brought up that point, sometimes you in too deep of a hole to climb out again.
aside from skid row there are many succesfull shelters and voc rehab programs out there.....lets not just always focus on the bad.....
the way los angeles treats the homeless population is sadistic.
the city has an active policy of "containment" to keep the downtown homeless population confined east of Broadway in a ten square block area known as skid row. one of the most common strategies are "bum proof" benches. these are bus stop benchs which are either shaped like a barrel, or have notches coming up to seperate the seats. these benches are uncomfortable enough to just sit on, but their design is to make sure no one can sleep on them.
also, the parks have an overhead sprinkler system which turn on randomly at night making sure to soak anyone sleepin in a park.
one restaurant spent $12,000 on a "bum proof" dumpster made with a 3/4 inch steel rod with alloy locks and spikes turned outward, all to protect their precious rotting garbage from bums (we all know there are no bears in downtown LA)
los angeles has the fewest amount of public toilets than any north american city, and this is a deliberate policy. the downtown community redevelopment agency decided to rely on "quasi public" restrooms such as in office buildings or restaurants, which are accessible to business people and tourists, and other "respectable" people. but the bums, let them shit themselves.
east of hill street there are also almost no facilities for public drinking water, except for the polluted la river itself which is infested with sewage.
its not against the law to sleep on sidewalks but it is against the law to erect shelter. and the cops enforce this law outside of skid row.
local hospitals have been dumping patients who are discharged but have no address or family to pick them up right in skid row. like they actually put them in the ambulance and drive them to skid row and leave them there. this has actually gotten a lot of criticism lately...but it continues
just walkin in skid row the air gets thick with the smell of human waste. its sick. you just see blocks and blocks of tents pitched on the streets. it's a wasteland and it is the policy of the city of la to maintain this wasteland as a dumping ground for the homeless.
i've seen this shit myself walking around skid row
im sure the bum proof benches are in other cities too, you see them?
and some of the facts i got above (i.e., the 12k dollar dumpster) are from this book called City of Quartz, by mike davis. if anyone is interested in the history of los angeles this is a great book to read. it's actually good if you even just want to know how a big city developes, how power relationships evolve, and how shit like the projects, the hood, and skid row, and other third world conditions can exist in what's supposed to be a first world nation.
yea well, this wasn't supposed to be a commercial for this book or anything, but reading it hit home and i really understood what this guy said because i saw it all for myself first.
but if you dont want to read a book, just open your eyes where ever you are, look around, and im sure you gonna see some similar shit in the design of whatever big city you happen to be in. shit is fucked up
how come around low income housing the spikes at the top of the fence curve inwards?
round 'em up. use them as experiment/control groups for medical studies. no joke
the city makes allot of money off of the homeless
they supply them with new needles
if that is what it takes to git back on yuor feet then that is what needs to be done......its hard starting from nothing but we all know it can be done.
some are given new needles and even bleech to cleen onld ones etc...know why? to stop the spread of aids and hepatitis in the homless communitys......is that a bad thing to do? gawd forbid we lock these ppl up and force them into rehab programs etc....that may make us white folk look bad.
eVoL, you're an elitist fuckbag. Do you even know any homeless people? This dude Al in my hometown is homeless and he's a cool fucking dude. He's been offered jobs and places to sleep and shit because people like him but he refuses. Shit, the guy won't even fucking accept change when we try to give it to him. He may be homeless but he's still a proud ass motherfucker.
Assholes like you can't understand what the homeless go though so you come up with some stupid ass shit to say. Walk a mile in their shoes and come back and tell me what you think. Regardless of social stature, they're fucking people not cattle you aristocratic fuckhole.
I work with homeless people and have done so for a number of years.
I think the thing that everyone needs to remember is that every person is unique and experiencing their own journey.
I have seen people that have suffered horrific upbringings and are the most resillient people I have met. Some of these people resort to drugs or alcohol to deal with their situation others do not.
I've also seen people that have had strong support and have made decisions that have led to them becoming homeless.
Some people have mental health issues caused by drugs or alcohol, whilst others have biological health issues that affect their ability to find sustainable housing or employment.
Homeless people can rise above the situation. A helping hand might be useful, but a person has got to actively try to improve their lot for assistance to be successful.
I think the most important thing is that we recognise that homeless people are individuals. They are free to make their own decisions, they have the same rights as any other person on the earth.
In terms of intelligence, people should spend some time with homeless people. You'll find that not only are there incredibly smart people but that these people have a bond and respect for one another that is not usually available to non-homeless people.
They are people like you and I.
Homeless/poverty stricken people are a vital necessity in the western world. The working classes need to be able to look on people who're lower down the chain than they are, makes them feel empowered. The rich folk rarely deal with homeless peoples as the richie areas keep them away as its the working class that empower them..
i see homeless people all the time and im rich. and instead of giving them money i offer them my lunch that ma white wife packed for me etc.....
Do they take it, or demand a dollar as it gets them a nugget closer to scoring a rock?
they always take it.....and if one never did then i may spit at him.
Hahaha, no doubt. I bet your wife makes phat lunches anyway so maybe it carries extra monetary value
tripple garlic bologna samiches with peperjack and muenster cheeses....fo shizzle.
yea, exactly Tecknicelstylez....people need to wake up, open your eyes
That's why education and reading is so important so you can get a good job and you won't have to hustle, steal, sell your body, rap to make money. Rappers have so much influence on the black youth that they should use that influence to educate these kids in their songs and let them know that it's not cool to sell your soul to get paid, it's not cool to curse a lot, disrespect people and be ignorant. How are you gonna get ahead in life if you're ignorant? Being ignorant isn't gonna get you a good job so you can take care of yourself. Young black men in the hood that wanna be rappers need to aspire to be something else because most rappers aren't gonna be successful. Rappers that are successful become sellouts because they think they have to make wack songs and be ignorant to make a lot of money. That's what those fools who run the record companies are telling these rappers.
Snapple you always got something ignorant to say about me everytime i post. You need to stop tripping and stop being ignorant. How is my topic stupid? I posted the topic because the homeless people issue rarely gets talked about. I think that the government should start some job training programs to help homeless people get jobs so they can have a better life. But homeless people also have to wanna better themselves. They need to stop begging for money from people and stop expecting the government to help them if they don't wanna help themselves.
Rich means share. god gives you money to share them. not just think about yourself. think about the homeless peopls. they cant buy anything they want u know. the rich muthfuckazz can. im not a rich niggah but im cool. the rick muthafuckazz....if u talkin shit all the time like, i got money man, i can buy whatever i want motherfucka when i want in front of a home less people all the time. i promise you will lose all ya money. somehow. as i said , to be rich is also share at the same time.
peace
TZA good point.
It baffles me that mainstream rappers would rather make wack songs to sell records. Why are they so afraid of doing underground music and not being a slave to their record company? Mainstream rappers don't last that long. If you look at the history of rap, you can see that. Look at Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, Young MC, Tone Loc and the other mainstream rappers that didn't last long.
Maybe if ignorant black men didn't sell drugs and hang on the corner all the time, the police wouldn't fuck with them. I'm so tired of ignorant black men talking about the cops be sweating me and harrassing me. The cops don't just fuck with people just to be fucking with them. If you're standing on the corner all the time and you know your ass is supposed to have a job or be in school, the cops are gonna mess with you. It's as simple as that. So if you don't wanna be harrassed by the cops, take your dumb ass off the street corner and go to school or find a job. Dumb muthafuckas. I'm tired of rappers dissing the police too. Ever since NWA dissed the police, now most rappers think it's cool to make songs dissing the police. I'm also tired of ignorant bastards thinking it's cool not to cooperate with the police if somebody has witnessed somebody being murdered or robbed. Ain't a damn thing wrong with snitching on a murderer if you witnessed a killing. Ya'll ignorant clowns be dissing 50 Cent talking about he's a snitch. So what. Busta Rhymes dumb ass won't cooperate with the police about his bodyguard being murdered because he's afraid ignorant rappers and ignorant black men on the street will call him a snitch.
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The cops don't just fuck with people just to be fucking with them
money thats it
Money. When its your career, you have to make proper BUSINESS decisions.
hey chuck u a cop?
those who judge will be judged against.
everything and everybody has a time and place in existence.
peace
is your daddy a cop?
cuz the cops be fucken with them
That's bullshit. Cops have staight up lied under oath and filled out false reports against me. I actually got off on a felony charge because I could have proved they falsified a report.
Love the irony in your post, calling them ignorant when you only refer to black people.. Ignorant people are ignorant no matter their race, just happens the most ignorant white people get in charge of countries to rein even more terror then a few boys chilling on a corner.
Whats worse, an ignorant white guy invading countries killing innocents as well as his own people, or an ignorant black guy chilling on a corner?
I agree with you though.. sick of cunts with nothing better to do sitting around and starting fights with EVERYONE. Difference here is, cops do sweet fuck all about it.
You love cops way to much but the problems with blacks and cops a deeper than you could imagine also it sounds like you look at life throu black and white glasses the problem is much broader than what you think
In a way I do agree that snitchin on a murderer is alright but if you saw a murder and didn't know the people involved would you run to your nearest police station reporting what happend or rush on your way hoping that you face wasn't seen
Do a little more research before you accuse
your looking at a narrow view point,maybe because the cops dont respect them in there neighbourhoods either...how u expect someone living in a ghetto to go jsut get a job?.....maybe they can apply for a position for one of the gun stores or liquor stores on every corner.....
what would u do if u were poor as fuck,and u watching these rich muthafuckas everyday in there benz's and whatnot..u gonna sit inside and rot?,u gonna slave for some petty change at some shit ass job,or u gonna chill out sellin drugs and make a nice earning?..i know what i'd do.
I lived in government housing, whole block of townhouses, for 90% of my life.. Not only was it a shithole with prositutes, dealers, guy got done for weapons dealing.. But it was in a pretty rich area, just that block was FUCKED. Can understand why people do crime, sell drugs and shit when in that situation.. but fuck, you gotta grow outta that. When you're like 25 being a bum it's embarassing.. and yeah, I went and got a job. Was a shit one, but it was experience and money