lol @ it being promoted as the biggest boxing match of all time. This division is the only thing that's keeping interest in boxing going lately, it's on life support.
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lol @ it being promoted as the biggest boxing match of all time. This division is the only thing that's keeping interest in boxing going lately, it's on life support.
The nail in the boxing coffin was hammered years ago, last night was just the last shovelful of dirt on top of that coffin
hope you guys enjoyed the fight, heard a lot of people were a bit disappointed
lmao just heard the WBC has a title called 'WBC Francophone' for the best French speaking boxer, what a joke
maybe wucorp can create a 13th boxing league
I love reading the shady boxing stories. Belgian Delfine Persoon is pound for pound number one in the lightweights category in the IBF, WIBF, WIBA and WBC leagues, also EBU champion. for her latest WBC world championship fight in Switzerland she was given fucked up gloves (not allowed to use her own), was only allowed 30 (!) tickets for countrymen and was put up in a hotel where street protesters passed 3 times at night to keep her awake. she still TKOed her opponent. fuck this boxing bullshit haha, maybe Floyd can wire her some money, our world champion still needs a day job to make it to the end of the month. EURO TRASH PRIDE
also these haircuts aren't cutting it
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Swiss challenger Nicole Boss (I know) left, Persoon right
Are those two women albino? I think they are female?
ahahaaah they're ugly as fuck aren't they? they're like each other's clone. I think the haircut is actually supposed to keep the hair out of the way, our Belgian boxer gets a lot of publicity locally and she only seems to sport that haircut during fights. it looks hideous. pretty sure these two would whoop my ass lolQuote:
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I think the mainstream fan typically thinks boxing is dead, but there will always be 'the enxt big thing' due to the olympics, so there will always be someone credible within the rakings coming up just like in hockey or football, etc where there will always be draft picks waiting for the next MJ or Gretzky or whatever.....to which in most cases are often imitated but never duplicated.
That being said, I think Mguel Cotto still has a lot of draw power and maybe a good 4-5yrs left in him, Canelo Alvarez is only 24, and he has only ever lost to Mayweather with a record of 44-1.
The average casual fan of combat sports will often critique the state of either profession with arm-chair opinionated delusions, but for the one's who are passionate, boxing is alive & well.
Aticle comparing network TV shows in comparison with one another between boxing & MMA:
http://miketysonlive.com/boxing-toda...ork-primetime/
I also find Dana White/UFC being really the only recognized/hyped promotion is very unfair to the sport of MMA, what with the subliminal '3 fights losing streak and you're out' policy creating the mindset that you better win or you're gone for fear of being released sets you up with lackluster, uncharismatic results and events.
it's been ages since Andre Ward fought. I hear he's got a fight in June?
then there's Mikey & Danny Garcia
don't follow boxing too closely
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I should have known better. I should have known that the fight would suck. I have lived long enough to know that the whole point of spending $100 on a pay-per-view boxing match is so you can complain about spending $100 on a pay-per-view boxing match. There were people back in the day who used to bitch about Mike Tyson knocking out people too quickly, which seems like a groundless complaint now after watching Mayweather bore the world to death. Mike Tyson either knocked you out, or got knocked out trying. Floyd Mayweather is his diametric opposite.
Yes, he won the fight. He threw more punches and he landed more of them and he was the superior boxer, I guess. He won in the same way some neutral zone trap hockey team bleeds out another team. He clearly built his fighting style around with a calculated strategy of gaming the compubox system so that he gets credit for even the most cursory of punches. And he gets away with it because he always looks as if he can do more. It always feels like there’s some grand fusillade of punches in him that he never ends up having to deploy. He looks like he could unload if he ever felt like it, and so he gets an awful lot of credit for all the things he could do but is too shrewd to risk doing. The only time he ever goes on the offensive is when he’s fighting a woman.
To watch Floyd Mayweather box is to witness an elaborate exercise in self-preservation. There’s not much passion. There’s certainly not much flair. There’s just Floyd moving around, doing his best to preserve a rote decision, and preserve the potential rematch, and preserve an unbeaten record that holds more historic value to him that it does anyone else. And yes, his style works, if only in the most cynical sense. Really, it’s the perfect boxing strategy for a man who is a documented wife-beater and shitbag: always doing just enough to get away with it.
Floyd Mayweather is a near universally agreed-upon villain, and so it was hard to watch him dick around in the ring last night—turning what should have been a big fight into an extended sparring exercise—and not think, “Hey, that guy beats up women and fights like a fucking coward.” The art, in this case, is nearly impossible to separate from its creator. I know Floyd is a coward, and so I can’t help but thinking he fights the same way. Always ducking. Always running. He landed more punches on a woman than he did on Pacman. The man will never pick a fight he knows he might lose.
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Yea man Andre Ward finally fighting JUN 20th since beating Edwin Rodriguez in 2013, so that's a long layoff, but its mostly due to injuries & feuding w/ his manager:
Ward vs Rodriguez
Ward spent most of 2013 recovering from injuries, and feuding with promoter Dan Goossen, over the inclusion of a co-manager in Ward's promotional contract. The case has been to court or arbitration on 3 separate occasions. Each time, Goossen was deemed in the right. Ward defended his WBA and Ring titles against unbeaten Edwin Rodriguez in Ontario, California in November 2013 with a wide unanimous decision. The fight started with rough tactics, until Jack Reiss made an unprecedented move... penalizing both fighters two points each, and warning them that he would end the fight if it did not clean up. Ward went on to dominate the rest of the fight.
Ward spent all of 2014 inactive, still feuding with Goossen. Dan Goossen died of complications from liver cancer in September 2014, leaving the future of Andre Ward's boxing career even further in doubt.
On February 19, 2015 the The Ring reportedly stripped Ward of his Ring Champion belt due to him not having defended his title against a top #5 contender in the last two years.
Also Cotto is fighting JUN 6, so that'll be solid (big fan of Cotto here) & Canelo Alvarez is fighting MAY 9th
I also heard SPIKE TV made a deal with a promotion to air fights similar to FRI Night Fights from back in the day....its usually mainly main-card status fighters from what i understand, but worth the watch for up & coming talent & active journeymen go at it....
It's on Fridays at 9pm EST I think?
Nail in the coffin? Umm then why was there so much interest? UFC will never be on the level that a highly anticipated fight is on boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by GZAjector
I don't know about other countries, but there has been zero interest in heavyweight boxing in the US for sometime now. Boxing in general isn't talked about near as much as it used to be years back. This fight was a rare occurence that got a lot of publicity.
^ That's mainly because Wladamir Klitschko is a foreigner (from a North American standpoint) who mostly fights over seas (from a North American standpoint) who is undipsuted HW champion.
Americans are not interested unless an American holds the title, and that American better have Holyfield/Tyson/Lewis qualities otherwise they don't care.
We have a Canadian champ in Adonis Stevenson who is the Lineal LHW champion holding both the WBC & The Ring LHW titles......but we don't care about him here because he's a scumbag who used to pimp out underage girls; not only that, but he's not that exciting & with his reputation he's not marketable.
The HW division has no one that has that 'wow' factor to market big brand names & appeal....look at the UFC in Cain Velasquez....guy is a dominant fucking force who's only lost to a fluke TKO from JDS, only to whoop his ass not once but 2wice and he still isn't getting the same hype as say a Ronda Rousey because he has 'Brown Pride' tatted across his chest perceived as being racist (personally don't give a shit, he's entertainign to watch and is a good dude....got to meet him one time at a personal appearance and was really nice..) even though he has & will KO you the fuck out...
M'urica wants that be all you can be Hulk Hogan-esque eat your vitamins & say your prayers shit, all while knocking people the fuck out left & right.....unfortunately America doesn't have that in the cards right now, and until an American can not only defeat but KO Klitschko, HW boxing has no market here......the last great champ for HW was Lennox lewis, and even HE was criticized....so technically you R EALLY can say Holyfield was the last great American/HW champ in general to some degree...
Im surprised people are complaining the fight went the way it did. Anyone who knows even a little about boxing should of known how it would go down, it was a high level boxing match not a brawl.
And it was Mayweather ffs the guy fights the same say every time.Quote:
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hah yea I was legitimately surprised when I checked social media the next day, it was a typical Floyd fight like people expected any different? Like going to a jazz concert and expecting hip hop. I actually thought he brawled a lot more than previous fights.Quote:
It's funny seeing all of the criticism that it was boring ànd didn't live up to the hype, like these people never saw Mayweather fight before??
been hilarious watching people be boxing fans and experts for one day out the year lol. if people thought Floyd held a lot they mustve never seen a heavyweight fight, or the klitscho fight just a week before
Manny Pacquiao was denied treatment for his injured shoulder before the Mayweather fight because of a paperwork blunder
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Manny Pacquiao was denied treatment for his injured shoulder before the Mayweather fight because of a paperwork blunder
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Floyd Mayweather defeated Manny Pacquiao in a unanimous decision in the biggest boxing match in decades on Saturday night.
Afterward, Pacquiao said he fought with an injured shoulder, and later added that he thought someone leaked information about the injury to Mayweather's camp so that Mayweather could attack it during the fight.
According to Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times, Pacquiao suffered a tear in a joint under his rotator cuff while sparring during training. Pugmire reports that Pacquiao could have received a numbing injection for it before the fight, but a paperwork snafu involving his promoter, Top Rank, the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) prevented it.
According to Pugmire, Pacquiao received a cortisone shot to help the injury during training, and an orthopedist told his camp that the USADA would approve the treatment before the fight. However, the USADA never told the NSAC about the approved treatment, Pugmire reports, and when Pacquiao's camp requested the shot before the fight, the NSAC denied it because the injury wasn't reported to them beforehand.
NSAC chairman Francisco Aguilar told Pugmire, "If the injury was disclosed at the weigh-in, we could've had a conversation and handled it differently. When you come at 6:30 with the fight at 8, that's a different conversation."
According to Greg Logan of Newsday, Aguilar also said that a questionnaire given to Pacquiao and Mayweather before the fight asked about preexisting injuries, and Pacquiao said he had none:
"On that questionnaire, one question is: 'Do you have an injury in your shoulder?' He checked 'No.' Had he checked 'Yes,' our doctors could have followed up with additional questions. He could have shared the MRI with those doctors, and we could have figured out an opportunity for him to have the medication he claimed he needs."
Aguilar told David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press that the injection could have been approved if Pacquiao's camp had told the NSAC about it earlier:
"These are not prohibited substances. But why they might be, on fight night, by the commission, is you want the fighter to enter the ring in a natural state. Had we known prior to (the fight), we would have sent any (exam results) over to the doctors to review and come up with a treatment plan for Mr. Pacquiao that is acceptable to commission doctors."
Pacquiao never tried to delay the fight in the days and weeks before because he thought he could get the injection on fight night, Pugmire reports.
Pacquaio told the LA Times about the injury:
"It felt like a needle was being stuck into my shoulder. I backed off because of the pain. It's very important to have confidence in your right and left, and when you're hurt, you're thinking about that, too."
When Mayweather was asked about Pacquiao's injury after the fight, he said, "I had injuries also going into this fight... Both of my arms was injured, both of my hands was injured, but like I said before, I will always find a way to win."
The chances of a healthier rematch are slim, however. Mayweather said he only plans to fight one more time before retiring. His manager and father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., said a rematch wouldn't be necessary because the results would be the same.
Many people feel the fight happened several years too late, with both boxers already on the decline. Pacquiao's injury now raises questions of how he would have faired in the fight had he at least been healthy.
lmao Floyd grants him a rematch since they were both 'hurt'....its all a scam cuz everyone knows there was too much $$$$ involved for there not to be a rematch...if i hadn't gone to a place where the host paid for the fight, i could have downloaded it right after for free (it hit the torrents minutes after it ended)....maybe the compromise for those suing is to get the next fight free of charge to them...lol
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A couple of boxing fans have sued Manny Pacquiao for allegedly failing to disclose a torn rotator cuff before last weekend’s “fight of the century” against Floyd Mayweather. Pacquiao’s team says he reported the injury to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, but a form he filled out prior to the fight indicates no shoulder, elbow, or hand damage.
Staphane Vanel and Kami Rahbaran filed suit on behalf of everyone who bet on the fight or purchased the $100 pay-per-view broadcast without being aware that Pac-Man was hurt, TMZ reports. They’re seeking $5 million for consumer fraud and fraudulent concealment.
Pacquiao’s injury apparently kept his punch count much lower than normal in the Mayweather fight, which Pacquiao lost on points in a unanimous decision. It’ll take surgery and a healing time of 9 months to a year before he can fight again.
His team says he disclosed that he was hurt to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency so he could get approval for an anti-inflammatory shot before the event, but the NSAC denied the treatment, saying the injury was never reported to them.
Mayweather dismissed his opponent’s busted right arm as an excuse for the outcome of the fight, saying he was fighting hurt as well. He told ESPN:
“If [Pacquiao] would have come out victorious, the only thing I could have got up here and said was, ‘I have to show respect and say he was the better man. Both my arms were injured. Both my hands were injured, but as I’ve said before, I always find a way to win.”
Mayweather now called Manny a coward and said a rematch won't happen.
^ His mind'll change when the $$$ is put in front of him....
Dude will do anything for the ca$h....him & Snoop are the 2 entertainers on this planet that will do anything for the $
There will probably be a rematch. Expect the same outcome again.
I personally don't think a rematch will happen especially with one fight left on his contract, I wouldn't even be interested in seeing one.
yall see Canelo over the weekend? I randomly turned it on mid-1st around and was one of the best matches I caught in years
Fuck a rematch! Did anybody watch the Canelo fight, now that was a impressive performance.
^ word Canelo is the future
fuck both these faggots. they just look good because theyre in a weak era. theyd die in the 80s.
roman gonzalez is better than both of them at the minute.
wtf lol
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Gennady Golovkin fighting tonight :D
why so funny?
LOL@Kato said Floyd and Snoop Dogg will do anything for money hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
I can't believe Floyd said he's better than Muhammad Ali hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Floyd is a joke and he couldn't beat Mike Tyson in Mike's prime.
Well considering Floyd is a light middleweight and Mike Tyson was a heavyweight that's a pretty logical conclusion
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I shouldn't have said he's a joke but I don't think he could beat Mike Tyson in his prime. I stopped watching boxing when Mike retired. I was laughing when I saw Mike's documentary movie and he said he beat up Don King in Beverly Hills, California because Don owed him a lot of money hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Check Two, I was laughing at your pictures of Evander Holyfield and Mitt Romney.
If they were the same weight, and were to fight I would pick Floyd, because by round five Tyson loses lots of stamina, and he would break down, and he would lose by U.D, or a late T.K.O.Quote:
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Tyson's best chance to win would be by K.O, but Floyd's defense is too good to let that happen.
For the record I would want Mike to win though.
Is Floyd's main defense dancing away from his opponent to wear him down?
Should he brawl, and risk losing?