Maybe if you pay them to use the beats, they will accept :i (and they will credit RZA)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
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Maybe if you pay them to use the beats, they will accept :i (and they will credit RZA)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
I bought I on iTunes to support the kid. I bought it used on Amazon a couple years ago.
Still a banger.
Peace
LOL, good one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonelli
props JZ Jordon
Any chance we get to hear them in the future?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
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Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
this is fire
how the fuck do joints like this end up on cutting room floor?
I've always wondered if the dissolving of all the solo members contracts w/ Wu-Tang Productions helped play a role in them fleeing the Wu-Elements production b/c they might have had to pay for it or opt into paying known producers over what they always got in-house previously. Any insight, Cilva, as you were pretty deep in camp at that exact time?
Discount or free beats from in house producers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddah_MAC
From what I remember there were two different set ups, a production deal and a publishing deal. I think each producer got paid a certain fee for each placement on a record and I think RZA had first right of refusal, meaning RZA had to hear everything first, and what he wouldnt use, they could take and shop somewhere else. There might've been an annual payment, or an advance on royalties to keep them going, but it could very well be that each producer had a different deal. So I couldn't tell you for certain. All i know is that a whooooooole lot of incredible beats simple were never chosen by the artists. It's a bigger secret than OUATIS to me as to why so many amazing beats got passed on. It's worse knowing what was passed up on than not knowing by the way.
i hope one day RZA releases some beat tapes of old beats. I only produced for a quick 2-3 years and made a couple thousand beats in that time, I can't even imagine how many RZA should have during his hermit days and even afterwards
I just want to hear the Blunted Soul Compilation
when generals want to 'go mainstream' on the beats after they forget non mainstream beats made them mainstream artists in the first placeQuote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
case in point : half or rae's second album sounds like Fisher Price My First Beats. also : FILA, Tical O, Mr Xcitement ... - the usual suspects
supposing rza had first right of approval (and it would be logical to assume he did, obviously) it strikes me as strange that the original wu elements placed only so few beats on albums outside the wu camp, or even on killa bee projects in some cases
then again, they could be feeling the same way you did, feeling the beats are tailored to the wu and not even wanting to place them on outside projects. in the latter case you'd think that the wu elements were taken care of well enough financially, otherwise financial constraints would have forced them to seek beat placements high and low on outside projects
anyway this is all conjecture. what is important that indeed it is a sad fact that a lot of projects would have been (even) doper with more wu elements beats
Cilvaringz, was the track below originally considered for World According To RZA? If so, was it turned down for sample issues? this is a doooope cut
The "lets adapt to mainstream" way of thinking started soon after 1998 unfortunately. That track was for a Finnish group we did on the 2003 tour when I was D-artist wanna be wu-tang killer bee!!
Non mainstream beats made em famous but we need to remember that time has changed. There was no global internet in 90s, no millions of RZAs copies trying to imitate his style. And the generation has changed and wants something different so I don't believe that if Wu created the second enter the Wu with the same style and ruggedness people would love them. They came out in right place and right time back then
This. Perhaps Rza would be kind enough to let you curate some of the unreleased material, polish it up a bit, break it into compilations, and prepare it for a digital release?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
I've been trying for 18 years lol