:( poor doggy,.
i heard its been pretty crazy their the last few days..
whats the price of living like?
what are the average prices of things, compared to wages for standard jobs?
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:( poor doggy,.
i heard its been pretty crazy their the last few days..
whats the price of living like?
what are the average prices of things, compared to wages for standard jobs?
There are people who support these riots?
their rioting, cos they have no cash,. inflation is greace is a motherfucker.. compared to what they could buy with their currency before the euro, and what they can buy now, is a fucking joke.
how long can people peacefully march? with their govts ignoring them, and just making things worse, the police are just corporate enforcement officers, making money for the elite. while the average human is struggling.
rioting is the cause, of the govts and politicians ignoring the 99%, and just looking after their own self interest.
what would u do icke, if you had no cash / food, lil hope for better education, or even finding a job in your home country, you was struggling.. but the elite around u.. just get richer and richer, while austerity measures are their only for the poor..
would you take it in the ass like a good slave, and not revolt?
i went to holland while they had gilders, and i went when they started the euro, albeit the govn and bankers did well in holland, they brought value of the gilder up, but you still could feel hole in your pocket when you switched..
least the gilder was worth somthing.. greece's currency (kronos?) is devalued to fuck.. its worth less than the paper its printed on..
police are average humans too dude. theyre certainly not in the upper class
the problem simply is inequality. say right now the higher ups are 10/10 and norms are 5/10. even if everyone was a 2/10 it still wouldnt evoke riots because everyone is in the same boat going through the same struggle. only because the 5/10's are seeing the 10/10's living like they do that people get upset
i know the police aint.. the police are the same as us, they should be working on behalf of the people.. not the elite.
the police choose to protect the elite..
police training is on policeys,, not policing.
a policeman serving under oath, would not blindly back their fascist / corporate controlled govts,
a genuine police officer, upholding his OATH, is for and with the people.
Greece isn't america and that isn't occupy wall street. Greece is in debt, but these people don't want to sacrifice wealth to get out of debt. Sure they aren't the wealthiest right now but at this point they're not helping resolve their country's crisis at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
Greece has a huge tourism sector, violent riots so violence is especially destructive their.
Nobody is willing to take responsibility for the crisis when it is clear that somebody has to.
Greeks did this to themselves by being lazy fucks, they have no one to blame but the people.
high demands for money + plus no people working = failed government support
whatd they think they could eat from the hands of the government honey pot forever, and it wouldnt run dry?
kick em out the EU before things get really really fucked, and let em figure it out and re apply
^^ totally wrong mindset..
coming to a country near you,.
5 years ago.. milk cost them say 20kronos... that same milk now is like x150 the original price
and its the peoples fault?
what jobs are their in greece,.
they dont export anything,
the people og greece havent done this to themselves
are u syaing the ppl of ireland/portugal/spain/iceland have done this??
no they dont control interest rates, or commerce..
so easy to blame those who are struggling.
not coming to a country like me, we choose to work for a living
how is it a wrong mindset? cause it oppses yours? you realize ignorance works both ways?
the vast majority are quick to blame the government for everything like nothing was ever there fault.
people should try looking at what they contribute not what they recieve
goverment's been stealing people's money for the last 30 years
and now they want people to pay this debt
every politician in greece is corrupted, no exceptions
thats the reason we are in this shit
people's fault is that they voted those faggits
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Originally Posted by Bronze Feet
it can oppose me i dont mind,.
its not coming to a country near u??
why are u non ignorant??
your showing a distinct lack of knowledge on how the fractional lending/fiat money system works.. or even how much the corporation get over the average person who works incredibly hard.
do you realise that almost every country in the world is bankrupt..
who too??
and for what? worthless paper..
educate yourself on the bullshit money system.
not to mention that cops dont know shit about strategy and safety. the cops' school is 3-6 months. then they get a gun. lol
shit is ridiculous
most of them even hold their glops upside down. this shit can kill someone if u hit him on the head
they even throw chemicals straight to people. and ALL their chemicals are out of date lol
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Originally Posted by etze
i think bronze will ignore this,.
i dont see it as the peoples fault..
people have been lulled into a false sense, that their govts reprsent them, when all govts care for are GDP, making money for huge corporations, the corporations get tax breaks, extra incentives, while we get no such breaks, or any incentives..
the media, education, everything that has created this capitalist society is to blame..
id recommend bronze watch the black dude rant in the occupywallstreet protest,, man kills its..
how can america owe money to china.. (how can any country owe cash to china)
china = communist.. all democratic / capitalist countries say communism doesnt work..
yet we all owe money to china..
LOLOL
i swear people are fucking stupid. keep believing what your media tells u bronze.
and now its considered illegal to group at the Syntagma square (outside parliament). there's police 24/7
^^ i bet originally that is where every historic greek protest took place??
same as in england.. last 2 years we cant protest outsite the houses of parliment..
just so the tourists cant see lols
reality is a joke
well, greeks always were grouping at Syntagma square. but they were always like 20.000-50.000
this year there were more than 700.000
and not only one time, it was almost every day lol
at general strikes over a million people go there
they are moving from all over greece
we also got fascists collaborating with the police
i hate those snakes lol
Who else is going to fucking pay it?Quote:
Originally Posted by etze
Stop complaining about the politicians that did a shitty job and start electing politicians that are capable of running a country.
The main problem with any bail out that comes greece's way is that the EU can't enforce anything.
governement dont want an election to take placeQuote:
Originally Posted by ikke
they will fail 100%
we need to wait 2 more years for election
^^ thats the thing.. politics is not the system, that helps the people.
politics only helps the rich and elite
every member of every party is signed up to higher bodies.. such as CFR/trillaterial/tavistock countless other think tanks.. that set social policies world wide
the 2/3 party system is an illusion, especially when those parties are supposed to be individual and seperate..
why give your free will away, and let some1 else represent you..
this form of governance (illusory democracy) is over..
their is no seperation between state and corporations
hence you have fascism.
policed by these fucking pyscho policey officers.
playing into the system and voting.. your just consenting to your own demise.
ill vote, when the parties represent the people, and not big corporations..
ill vote when
members of labour and convervative.. are not part of the CFR, or the school of science.. or the council of 12..
go check these think tanks
go and check CFR.org
check the politicians in your country.
shits dodgey.
also, we have more than 60 suicides cause of debts in 2011
like 2 weeks ago a father with 5 children set himself on fire outside a bank cause bank took his house
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl4...ews#rel-page-1
http://f.i.uol.com.br/folha/mundo/images/11259734.jpeg
fuck thats grusome..
i feel sorry for him and his family.. :(:(:(
just sat here shaking my head..
fuck. im gonna have to leave now.. that pic depressed me..
gonna go and annoy my mrs at work. fuck
that pic made me so sad :(
and here's a photo of George Papandreou, the prime minister of greece
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...62756824_n.jpg
As I thought, you're projecting your concerns about your own government on to other problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
etze, not too informed about this but your country has mutliple prominent parties right? I saw one party had a significant majority on wiki but that changes every election right?
well, he's not deadQuote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
he just got injured, not even badly injured
dont know what happened with his debt though
there are hundreds of examples from people without electricity and water
lemme give u an example. my electricity bill is about 100 euros per 3 months
60-65 of these are taxes for the greek tv, 15-20 are just taxes and all other shit is the cost of the electricity i use
there are 2 prominent parties, PASOK and New DemocracyQuote:
Originally Posted by ikke
PASOK is on the lead the last 30 years with an exception of 4 or 8 years (i dont remember if New Democracy got elected twice)
PASOK had about 47% of people's vote
now they hardly reach 8%
also, we have a big problem at education
they want to pass a low they voted for. this law REALLY sucks.
they sell universities' management to companies, u have only 2 more years (ur university's years + 2 years) to finish ur studies or else u get kicked without getting a diploma, no more asylum in the universities, more subjects at less hours and other crazy shit
they even want us to pay in order to get a discount card for buses, trains etc..
this shit used to be free for years, its just a paper shit. we used to get it from the university and now they sell it to students at a couple of multiple stores
we had about 300 university sit-ins a week ago. now there are only ~100 cause they threatened us we gonna lose the whole year
i love seeing you anti government, conspiracy nuts squeem around when someone makes a contridicting statements
peace soul and etze, but i got my eyes on things. my opinion, to save the rest of the EU, let Greece go and say fuck em until they can get there shit together on both sides.
This just proves that money IS the key to life, regardless of what anyone says. Everything else will eventually fall into place.
People don't care as long as he/she has their own. In these horrific times, it's every man, woman, and child for themselves.
no. its a race between anglos/europeans/american whites vs. blacks. sunny even said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tectrus Moa
Sunny?}:|Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
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Originally Posted by Tectrus Moa
this is the mind frame the mainstream world wants you to have..
everyone living like that will go extinct,. killing each other for bread. lols
the only future i see is a cashless society, where ethics and morals are totally different, where corporate and govt dont mix.
wwhere people power is stronger than the will of the 1%
1st of all, their so many ppl on earth, we cant even afford to fucking feed them all., but yet we do shit like apple does, we try and go into space.. we make 3d fucking tv;s
FUCK THAT,
that bullshit needs to change.
when people cant even have food to live daily.. and clowns actually envy this system.. as i said.. that mind frame will go extinct, as the events that will come, will totally daze them poor folk..
Bronze.. this is just not a uk thing( and it deff isnt conspiracy., go educate ur self on world politics) regardless if ur a greek policitician, british, italian, us, you will still need to show aliengence to world bodies such as CFR/trillateral, ETC
hell even ron paul is CFR (check cfr.org)
just playing along with the voting/political system, is tightening the veil around your own face
Peace
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Originally Posted by Bronze Feet
do you know how the fiat/fractional banking system works??
dou think its legal / lawful / just that people can just type numbers onto a computer.. and like magic, their more cash available ??
do you not see the bullshit in having a few people control how wealth is created?
u say anti govt??? government = to do the will of the people
is your govt doing your will?? and if it is.. is that will raping the 99%??
I don't think the monetary system is working either but the world isn't ready to move on from it. For a utopian society we need a degree selflessness that I don't see mankind having for another couple of centuries.
Is it even scientifically possible to feed the entire world with the resources we have today?
Conspiracy nuts like Soul Controller (No offence) need to stop seeing the government as an evil entity with a sinister agenda. Government is just a system we use to take care of public goods. If the system isn't working properly it's corrupted or not build up properly, not trying to enslave us.
conspiracy nut? then say no offence.. lol
even saying conspiracy.. shows what your mind state is on this
cfr and trillaterial/ school of 12, school of science. etc.. are world bodies.. its not a fucking conspiracy,.. its out in the open!! check their official sites..
but calling some1 a conspiracy nut. is already showing u refuse to look into 'world governance'
if you really think govt doesnt try to ennslave you,. i think u should read u.n and other thinktanks info on project 2000, maybe even agenda 21 ( both official papers, not conspiracy shit)
course the world isnt ready for the types of system i mentioned. everything in current society is based on accumilation of wealth.. meaningless wealth at the expense of others.. the more wealth u have(meaningless paper) the more status u have in society
that is whats indoctrinated from birth,. through education ( yeahh we went to war, ww1/ww2, so we could live like this, cos we the allies won, we have goods, while the world starves!! yayyy mayn!)
proove to me the govt arent evil.. proove to me that each party in your country, is individual. proove to me, that govt and corporations, dont work together, at the expense of the average person.
the difference is.. i live very unselfishliy, i help anyonew and everyone.. i give food and money to strangers..
i have chats with real life friends.. they hate people who live of the system, they hate different types of society..
all the division is created to divide, polarisation creates control, and pushs people to back their own corners.
lastly.. proove to me one time, the government has done GOOD for the people (not corporations)
just anyone time.. show and proove. show me why u have so much trust in a system that just rapes and pillages..
and define how u see me as a conspiracy nut..
how do u base that, what do u base it on?
everything i speak on. i have done factually.. its upto you to go and research what ive said.. even basic shit like cfr/trillaterals. controlling world politics.. yes its sounds far fettched.. but these are public bodies..
go research
How am I supposed to have a discussion when you keeps saying the government like there is one that controls the entire world.
go research trillaterial commision.. the council of foriegn relations,
the u/n's agenda 21, project 2000..
read the missions statements of those public bodies..
i never said, the govt controls the entire world.. please show me where i have said that.. i know what my problem is.. i say too much, and that usually messes up peoples neurological nerves, and they get dazed confused and lost, thus it becomming a conspiracy theory..
only way you can see, is by putting time into research.
peace icke,
prove to me that these protesters aren't evil.
Almost every politician started their life as protesters.
It's these politico's, these government and power obsessed people that cause most of the mess you see.
It's why the normal hard-working people don't get mixed up in protests or politics.
At least not until it directly effects them.
Human beings are selfish, its part of our hard-wired existence. Without selfishness, there is no self preservation.
It doesnt matter if these revolutions spread. Look what spawned the last round of revolutions about 100 years ago......Fascism and communism....both supposedly for the working man and working against the elite.
And look how that turned out.
I don't trust these protesters anymore than I trust a corrupt government. Anyone so extreme is a danger.
Okay but love doesn't pay the bills. People NEED money to live and love.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul controller
1.) Money
2.) Power
3.) Love
Think about it.