Ghost Fell Off & Became Boring

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Originally Posted by PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT

what aload of bullshit

ghostface is critically acclaimed - that means he is respected for being highly talented and is dropping quality albums. You don't agree with most critics in hip hop so don't be talking as if ghost being wack now is the excepted truth. Its your opinion - that means you don't like his recent style. If ghost was really mediocre then that would be the general consensus and he wouldn't be so acclaimed. btw if you say you don't give a fuck about the critics - they have more sway than you

The truth is ghost receives the most hate here, by wu fanatics that believe he is some kind of traitor for moving on. Infact I haven't seen any hate on ghost other than this forum.

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LMFAO ... where the fuck were you when every second thread in the wu chamber used to be a u-god diss ? ... sorry to break off from the ghost shit ... but the only reason u-god gets hate is because everyone dick rides RZA and takes RZA side of the 'beef' ... not because u-god is wack but because when RZA goes up against u-god all the stans take RZA and automatically hate on u-god ... ghost didnt fall off on BW he fuckin fell down the stairs and had to crawl through a shit sewer to make it back to fell off status on PT ... then he redeemed himself - barely - on fishscale and tripped over two left feet on more fish ... and no one has the fuckin balls to say ghost isnt what he used to be ... yeh we all here cos we love wu but when wu drops shit it has to be said regardless how much we love em ... bottom line is the biggest catalouge doesnt make the best one ... infact the best shit ghost has put out since SC was put it on the line with trife ... ghost is like meth ... tight as fuck on a wu joint with the others but isnt shit on his own anymore ...

Most of y'all just hate ghost cuz he is not using wu prodcution, that's all.Ghost is the only Wu MC that doesn't need wu production to sound good. Most of the Wu Dickriders are Ghost haters. They rather listen to U-God or some crappy wu fam rappers. This is sad.

Yeah i agree in that Ghost has got sort of boring. I think a fair bit of rap music got boring to be honest. But i cannot agree with you on your points that Ghost nearly ruined The W and BW was horrible. I just cant. He made the W for me, fuckin hell man his verse on i cant go to sleep nearly chokes me up. And BW is a classic in my eyes, it makes real good listening and its got everything. Ghost isnt a corny guy i just think, with BW not selling fuck all, he had to sell some albums. Dont be surprised if a bit of hate lights a flame under his arse. Hope so, coz he's capable of the most abstract shit since Picasso man! Thats where his real talent is, with his abstract shit, surely he must know that. IMO.

Because hes trying to make so much sense its seriously affecting his flow aswell. Shits embarrasing sometimes

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what aload of bullshit

ghostface is critically acclaimed - that means he is respected for being highly talented and is dropping quality albums. You don't agree with most critics in hip hop

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It is really of no concern to me what critics say. I consider my opinion to be every bit as valid as any critic's. That's not ego. It's just the way I view the world. You wouldn't understand.

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so don't be talking as if ghost being wack now is the excepted truth. Its your opinion

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I don't know how many times I have to repeat that what I'm saying is only my opinion. On top of that, should one really have to point out that every fucking thing they say is opinion? Man that annoys the shit out of me. Of course everything I'm saying is opinion. Can't we all just assume that? Do I have to put an "imo" on the end of every comment I make?

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If ghost was really mediocre then that would be the general consensus and he wouldn't be so acclaimed. btw if you say you don't give a fuck about the critics - they have more sway than you

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As above.

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The truth is ghost receives the most hate here, by wu fanatics that believe he is some kind of traitor for moving on

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I couldn't care less about that. To tell the truth I don't even know a thing about it. I don't follow the Wu anymore. I never even browse the Wu chamber or read the news page anymore. I just buy the music when it drops.

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How many wu members have arguably 2 classics and a string of albums that range form solid to good?

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None.

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while i believe the thread starter had good intentions, the direction this thread is going is making it bring the ruckus material.

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That's cool Wade.

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I love the way Ghost fans go to such lengths to justify Ghost. So now Ghost is hot because no one made a thread about U-God? Yeah right!

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It's utter insanity it is.

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I think I owe it to ghost to post AMG's reviews of his albums since many think he has fallen off. Remember these are what MUSIC CRITICS think, not me.

Ironman 4.5 out of 5
Supreme Clientele 4.5 out of 5
Bulletproof Wallets 2.5 out of 5
Pretty Toney Album 3 out of 5
Fishscale 4.5 out of 5
More Fish 3.5 out of 5

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It's good that you dug this up, but once again, my first comment in this post still applies. These would be my ratings...

Ironman 5/5
SC 4.5/5
BPW 2/5
PT 3/5
FS 2.5/5
MF Haven't heard it enough to give it a proper rating.

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Look you may not like Ghost's style or content, but denying that he is an incredibly original emcee with an unbelievable diverse catalogue is just wrong

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I don't really think he's all that original. It's not like he's ever done anything ground breaking or revolutionary. And his lyrics are not original in the least. Not only that, but on some occasions he has followed trends in hip hop. I will agree that he has a diverse catalogue though.

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Most of y'all just hate ghost cuz he is not using wu prodcution

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I couldn't care less about that. I'm really not fazed at all by which producers he uses, as long as he makes appealing music. Which he has not been doing imo.

lmao ur are right! I don't understand your ignorence to the rest of the world

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Originally Posted by PuNcH_iN_PuNcH_OuT

lmao ur are right! I don't understand your ignorence to the rest of the world

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Like I said, you wouldn't understand. Don't disrespect me and make judgements and assumptions about me just because you can't relate to my way of thinking.

I also think your opinion is every bit as valid as any critic, believe it or not.

fine dude i wasn't replying to u earlier but 2 zig

That's cool. I'd just prefer to keep it civil in here. I'm not trying to stir anybody up.

fishscale weaker than pretty toney?? wow

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu, Tha Soul Controllah

fishscale weaker than pretty toney?? wow

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I might actually say that 'Fishscale' is a more well rounded album than PT, but unfortunately it still has no appeal whatsoever. That's why I would give it a lower rating than PT. PT's an ok album. I'll still give it a spin every now and then. 'Fishscale' I really have no desire to ever hear again. Appeal is so very, very important.

fishscale = 2.5 lmfao

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

fishscale = 2.5 lmfao

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Does this comment really have any validity at all? Is this any different to if I laughed at people who rated it HIGHER than 2.5?

The answer to both questions is "no".

Why is it that nobody has come up with a decent argument against what I am saying here, yet? The only good posts in this thread that contained substance and relevant observations have been in accordance with what I'm saying at least to some degree, or have offered valid insights as to why what I say might be so.

Think about that.

the only opinion that holds any weight is a majority consensus opinion. a professional critics opinion has no more or no less validity then the next dude. its just their own personal opinion, except they get to have their opinion put in a magazine for everyone to see and we dont.

like jay-z said:

"i dont believe you, you need more people"

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Originally Posted by B O T

a professional critics opinion has no more or no less validity then the next dude. its just their own personal opinion, except they get to have their opinion put in a magazine for everyone to see and we dont.

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It's a pity how something so blatantly obvious and logical as this is not recognised by all.