religion is a prison to the seekers of wisdom

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Originally Posted by O3EY

I ain't talking about God as a supreme. To call one man supreme (unless your talk'n about self wisdom and self realization through knowlege) above another is foolish. I mean Allah (the teacher of this self knowledge) just showing the way that through self wisdom and self knowledge you can do all things. Not God. Cause God is unknown and what you dont know you can't proclaim.

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u understand that that is ur opinion...
God for many is this one God that u refute...

disprove the existence of this god with facts and not comparisons to ur belief..

thats how u can make ur point stronger..

Religious faith depends on a host of social, psychological and emotional factors that have little or nothing to do with probabilities, evidence and logic. This is faith's inescapable weakness. It is also, undeniably, its greatest power

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Originally Posted by CELL

Religious faith depends on a host of social, psychological and emotional factors that have little or nothing to do with probabilities, evidence and logic. This is faith's inescapable weakness. It is also, undeniably, its greatest power

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yes but the world of rationality cannot deny the fact that there is a possibility of a God.. in the realm of the unseen.. however.. what rationality can do.. is deny the picture of god that religion has portrayed...


i gotta go but there is a flaw in rationality and the realm of the probability of the God without the veil of religion tainting the process..

peace n blessingz

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Originally Posted by O3EY

I'm guessing that your talking about christ. But I'm gonna look at through allah's eyes.

The way I see it is that through Allah you can do anything through the wisdom of yourself. Believing in one's self as the ruler. Now with that in mind you gotta remember that allah is from asia and his teaching spread but didn't get to the united states cause of the 85% trying to cover up the truth. So the 85% who came from europe first, realized the truth and made up their OWN version of what they believed (jesus christ) which in truth is really just an abstract idealism of Allah but rather than give credit to him. American's such as many races' (not pointing any fingers) believe that Jesus is king. when in fact, that's just believe to take away from self wisdom through self knowledge of allah.

I can keep going but I'm not gonna get to into it right now. I just realized this while listening to Wu forever and it hit me hard. Shit's crazy peace..

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REALLY....

^ yeah but It's really hard to explain cause there's the black militant side of self wisdom too but you just gotta know the concept. or be willing to understand.

people do know the truth thats the thing, the god that close minded humens belive in is impossible to be.

in the end we are just the same as a dog or ant or a duck (eat pis shit), we are just more concious, im not saying there isnt what humens call a "god" but if it was to be there is no possible way its the one that the followers belive. it would have to be more of a "director"

of course humens made jesus christ up, but humens also proved it rong, the only thing they cant prove right or rong is somthing a humen could never know.

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Originally Posted by Princerai

yes but the world of rationality cannot deny the fact that there is a possibility of a God.. in the realm of the unseen.. however.. what rationality can do.. is deny the picture of god that religion has portrayed...


i gotta go but there is a flaw in rationality and the realm of the probability of the God without the veil of religion tainting the process..

peace n blessingz

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the possiblity? I agree with you on the possiblity but is it possible for you to exist?

debating your views on religion is like debating whether or not you like chocolate ice cream.

one person may love chocolate ice cream so much, it has become their number one choice for all ice cream and recommend it to all of their peers, or even those they aren't affiliated with.

others however, may detest chocolate ice cream, and it's popularity sickens them so much they get angry at the thought of its goodness, try to spread anti-chocoloate propoganda around, and do whatever they can to prove chocolate isn't as good as everyone thinks it is.

religious debate will go on forever, with no one changing their minds on the issue, because you're all debating OPINION/PREFERNECE. at least, that's what it usually is. no one ever gives you the fact without putting in their opinion or preference into it, on both sides.
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Props for that dude. well said

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Originally Posted by Koolish

debating your views on religion is like debating whether or not you like chocolate ice cream.

one person may love chocolate ice cream so much, it has become their number one choice for all ice cream and recommend it to all of their peers, or even those they aren't affiliated with.

others however, may detest chocolate ice cream, and it's popularity sickens them so much they get angry at the thought of its goodness, try to spread anti-chocoloate propoganda around, and do whatever they can to prove chocolate isn't as good as everyone thinks it is.

religious debate will go on forever, with no one changing their minds on the issue, because you're all debating OPINION/PREFERNECE. at least, that's what it usually is. no one ever gives you the fact without putting in their opinion or preference into it, on both sides.

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The biggest difference between ice cream and religion is its effects on the mind body and spirit/soul. We have to discuss the issues that effect the very fabrics of our lives. I do agree with you, I only wanted to state this point.

Take it easy
Peace

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

The biggest difference between ice cream and religion is its effects on the mind body and spirit/soul. We have to discuss the issues that effect the very fabrics of our lives. I do agree with you, I only wanted to state this point.

Take it easy
Peace

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now that's the shit right there kid. :yes:

god = system of action/reaction

edit: to me

religion is like the movie ground hog day only it don't get better. the information that religion disseminates has a vast distance on it's estimates and is miss taken as to the informing in formation of the lives it distills. everything you need to know for life someone else has done and knows all that will befall you in yours in a differnt time and space where circumstances can reshape the bearings relligion is for way faring people who bring misery. i say the unseen god is in misery and had a flyer made up for a party the organizing committee is god's sybil type personalities and god befriended some people to hype the party - i saw pinnochio no jackass - party's on earth after party hell and vip is heaven.

read god and devil for those who beleive in them have a wager who can fell theres up first.

to put it in small words: god wants your attention where god is first so you follow god blindly by faith and trust trust gets broken can't get angry can't hold god accountable end up blaming yourself like those flagelling people. yep a virtualy dungeon from triple stages of darkness -> blind to ways of intelligence, deaf to actions of intelligence and dumb to proven intelligence

if god's artifical that would make religion a conterfiet reality.

salut

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religion works metaphorically. The problem is that it is taken too literal. But it does relate to the grand scheme, no doubt about it.

Like everything tho, you have to put it into its context.