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What's the difference between the 99 names of Allah and this...Quote:
Originally Posted by T4R1K
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Allah is the concept of a conscious Universe as is Brahman.
Zeus is the concept of the power of the Heavens to make storms which affect life.
Horus is the concept of Avenging one's Father.
Nike is the concept of having victory.
Lady Liberty is the concept of freedom.
Chronos is time.
Odin is a god of Knowledge.
Quetzalcoatl or Aeolus is the winds.
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so basically what somebody would call the universe or reality?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
no, what somebody would call lazy responsibility ditching...and fear of death/the unknown (not suggesting theyre the same)..no offense to anyone.
elaborate on that dusk.
no problem. the concept of god(s) came about because people couldnt understand the complexities of our planet...and could only define such complexities as being created by a higher power. i think that concept has evolved into more of a need people have to believe in something higher..moreover someWHERE higher. its easier to believe God has a plan than to accept that your own decisions shape the outcome of ur life.
and tho i said no offense, this did come across as condescending and bitter. refer to what i said after...much better answer,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
what im curious to know is how did even the thought that something HIGHER existed or could exist even be conceived... where did they get this idea of something Ethereal and Unseen being come from?? hmmm that dogma didnt just come from them thinking "hey you know what? somebody invisible in space MUST be responsible for all of this" how did these thoughts of SOMEONE creating us creep into the human conscience and psyche? im just pondering how primitive minds could think in such advanced ways to ponder their creation in such a way to attribute it to a PERSON or Higher Being rather... where did they get the notion that such things could exist and or be possible?
perhaps u should look at it this way...with all the resources available to humans at the time, things like construction...building...creating started to conceptualize..with that...perhaps..the notion that the same methods were taken to create the whole planet...and bam...there u go.
hmmmm, ok then why wouldnt they think someone physical PHYSICALLY created all they physically saw in such a physical world they lived in? what im trying to get at is how did the human mind start to create this perception of an unseen being, when all that was before them was real and tangible... to your point... if they had sex and procreated wouldn't that instill in them more the thought that the same process was used for THEIR very creation and birth? i think at such a primitive time it would be hard to have such deep thoughts of that nature, especially since there was no concept of anything as an unseen being...
this topic is def one to grow on
It isn't difficult to see how people can conceive of an 'unseen' being, many things occur that are unseen but have affect. The problem is why people would give it explanatory and agentive power in their lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiGitalChamberz
I would just say that our closest experience of anything is ourselves. Our closest and surest experience of cause and effect is our will and the subsequent action. The first material for the conception of god is self.
Most indigenous cultures are animistic in this sense, everything in nature, a plant, a rock, a waterfall, has a will or a spirit. It is not difficult to see how deification is a most proximal mimicry. Its not hard to how these traditions morphed into different religions and systems.
Another explanation offered by some researchers is hallucinogens. The argument is that most of the worlds cults and religions arose from experience with powerful plant drugs. Any drug user can see how ingesting something can offer novel perceptions and conceptions.
"The first material for the conception of god is self."
yet we keep searching for things that do not exist
God has no beginning and no ending, He's out of these two concepts, He's absolute that's why He has no god nor siblings (no parents and no children (Jesus??? lol))Quote:
Originally Posted by V4D3R
Co-sign this, I've seen somewhere (if I find the source I'll post it) that statistics nowerdays shows that only 8% of the world population is pure atheist.Quote:
Originally Posted by WUnded Fox
He gave you free will so you can make your own choices and assume themQuote:
Originally Posted by ikke
On the other hand, He told you what you have and not have to do (religions IMO) and the choice is yours again.
hahaha well like its been said... There is no Begging or End.. 360 degrees, so i think we only lose ourselves searching for something thats not there... maybe when we stop looking well find what were looking for.. maybe its closer than we think...
or maybe were so busy looking outward... that we never spend enough time looking within..
it would be interesting to find out if after all this time all we were looking for essentially was... ourselves...