Re: Human Evolution Theories
animals can choose what to eat and what not lol...if they dont want zebra that day they dont have to eat it
if they dont wont to mate they dont have to
the reason they do is becouse most animales roll in packs..they learn from thier parents on how to live ..so they live just like thier parents
what do think happen........mmmm
lets see what u see..hear....
god was board one day so ...lets make a human....(plop) thier is one (plop) thier is 2 let them mate and creat more....
lol
it started out as orginzems
and evolved to somthing els...and so on...we just go the better half...by saying that i mean we didnt evole into a dog or some thing
Re: Human Evolution Theories
u misunderstand evolution so badly that it appears to go against itself to u.
u basically just have alot of questions, but the answers are all explicitly out there.
ur questions such as " why are we the only ones to evolve large brains etc etc" are so juvenile that one who understands how selection works and how biological niches are filled would not even consider asking.
im not trying to be disrespectful, but all of your questions are satisfactorily answered within the theory.
it would be like someone who isnt really understanding of algebra asking questions about it and then prematurely coming to a conclusion that algebra is a discipline that goes against itself.... thats what u are doing.
instead of jumping to a conclusion, u should simply just ask if you are not sure exactly how evolution works, or ask if u arent sure about chaos/random chance/entropy/ laws of thermodynamics and how they are not at odds with biological evolution.
for some reason ppl think that evolution is a "theory in crisis", when this is so far from the truth.. it is in no more crisis than the theory of gravity.
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the answer is a loud and firm YES !
its all evolution. see this is what needs to be understood. Evolution is alot more complex tht it is made out to be. There are several different types of evolution and the one main type that is normally argued about is what is known as "macro evolution".
Macro evolution as the name suggests involves a change in the populations gene pool that results in one species over time being modified by cumulative changes resulting in a totally different species (one must have a firm definition of the word "species" in order for this to "gel").
the other type of evolution is what is known as "micro evolution". micro evolution (as the name would suggest) occurs on a smaller scale and manifests itslef as a change in the populations gene pool that results in a change in form, function or ability within the species . An example of this would be birds having different beak sizes depending on the type of seeds they need to eat, but all the while still being finches.. one achetype of finch led to the microevolution of several varieties with different beak sizes based on adapting to the environment... but note.. this change occured because there had to be a change in the genetics ie a genetic mutation! u cant have evolution without having a change in the genetics
thats all evolution is,.. its defined as a change in the genes divided by time (normally plotted on an x and y axis with time on the y)
so if u have one bird born with a mutated beak by chance, this isnt evolution unless this change results in a change in the genetics of a whole population! individuals dont evolve.. only populations.
now more importantly.. its always said how "things change to suit their environment", however the bioogical/ evolutionary defination of the word "environment" could be anything.. thats why evolutionists truly dont use that word like that.. its more accurate to say that creatures evolve based on environmental stressors.. these stressors could be physical or non physical.. not simply implying location.
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The experiments done on mutations of DNA make me think that...but hey...don't let science get in the way of what you want to believe.
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Originally Posted by My First Timbs
u misunderstand evolution so badly that it appears to go against itself to u.
u basically just have alot of questions, but the answers are all explicitly out there.
ur questions such as " why are we the only ones to evolve large brains etc etc" are so juvenile that one who understands how selection works and how biological niches are filled would not even consider asking.
im not trying to be disrespectful, but all of your questions are satisfactorily answered within the theory.
it would be like someone who isnt really understanding of algebra asking questions about it and then prematurely coming to a conclusion that algebra is a discipline that goes against itself.... thats what u are doing.
instead of jumping to a conclusion, u should simply just ask if you are not sure exactly how evolution works, or ask if u arent sure about chaos/random chance/entropy/ laws of thermodynamics and how they are not at odds with biological evolution.
for some reason ppl think that evolution is a "theory in crisis", when this is so far from the truth.. it is in no more crisis than the theory of gravity.
You didn't answer my questions though- you just played it off like i'm stupid or that I can't comprehend what the theory is about- If my questions are so Juvenile why didn't you just break it down for me?
why is it humans are the only ones capable of rational thought? Why are we the only things not bound to instincts?
Re: Human Evolution Theories
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Originally Posted by 100pr00f
animals can choose what to eat and what not lol...if they dont want zebra that day they dont have to eat it
if they dont wont to mate they dont have to
the reason they do is becouse most animales roll in packs..they learn from thier parents on how to live ..so they live just like thier parents
what do think happen........mmmm
lets see what u see..hear....
god was board one day so ...lets make a human....(plop) thier is one (plop) thier is 2 let them mate and creat more....
lol
it started out as orginzems
and evolved to somthing els...and so on...we just go the better half...by saying that i mean we didnt evole into a dog or some thing
lol
you missed my point completeley- animals are born with certain survival instincts that they use
for example- a kangroo's baby instinctivley knows to climb inside it's mother's pouch
and please don't pretend to know what I think about god and the orgins of man-
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humans are born with certain instincts too as well
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Originally Posted by Charging Soldier
You didn't answer my questions though- you just played it off like i'm stupid or that I can't comprehend what the theory is about- If my questions are so Juvenile why didn't you just break it down for me?
why is it humans are the only ones capable of rational thought? Why are we the only things not bound to instincts?
i didnt answer this question because they have been answered so many times in this thread
humans are not the only ones capable of rational thought (rational thought is nothing special.. its only defined as taking in external stimuli, analyzing it with a consistent thought pattern, and then acting on it in a consistent way that ultimately will lead to more benefit than detriment).. we are not the only ones to do this by a long shot... any creature with as suitable central nervous system with a complex nueral network can do this...
we also are not creatures that are NOT bound by instincts. we follow natural instinctual behavior and thought patterns on the regular.
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there is truly no way to tell
evolution doesnt have to imply a step "up" in complexity. it simply is a change in the genes..
but from current trends in mating patterns and cultural blending and societal pressures, it is seen already that human height has increased on average of about a quarter of an inch each 60 years or so.. (this may not seem like a big deal but this is amazing!)
In additon, over the last 70 years or so the human thumb is getting closer to the index finger (the reason for this is not known, however it is theorized that over the past 70 years, women are becoming more attracted to men who more than likely have job functions that utilize less thumb strength!) thus in the process the resultant offspring carry the inherited trait of decreased thumb strength and ultimately this manifests itself as the thumb migrating closer to the ijdex finger by way of loss of musculature!
who knows, if this trend continues for another 50,000 years we may not have thumbs at all.. it could possibly fuse with the index finger.. especially since most ppl dont need thumbs for typing and as technology increases the need for physical strength will be a thing of the past!
and then guess what will happen 50,000 years from now... some human will be born with a fully formed developed thumb appendage (by way of genetic birth defect) and then people will debate over the thumb being a vestige of prior evolution!
ultimately, humanity will nevert evolve into a totally different species until there is some sort of biological or geographic isolation between different human populations fo rlong periods of time.. but being that we are a global community this is unlikely to happen until we colonize space!
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the evolution of humans brought about by the colonization of space, and the enviromental stresses of living on other planets. id like to see that.
and il be damned if i have kids without a thumb. we need our thumbs thumbs are
the type of evolution brought on by spce colonization would be a mixture of adapting to a new physical environment in addition to a genetic mutation that would change the sexual properties of our gametes (sperm and egg).. so if w sent up a colony in space say to Jupiter and they stay isolated from earth for about 20,000 years and have a genetic code that now incorporates this slight change in our sperm and egg, when they finally do meet up with an earth born human they will not be able to mate because the space sperm will not be congruent with the earth egg. This is how most likely it could occur.. thus the jupiter human's would be a new species of human unable to mate with earth humans due to biological and geographical isolation.
dont worry, none of our kids will be born without thumbs. im talking about kids 50 to 100,000 years from now... in addition, thumbs are only important to us now in the environment we live in.. in fact the whole concept of a physical body with a skeletal system is only important because we live on earth.. everything is relative.. if we were on a diff planet with different gravitational forces , a physical body with an internal skeleton would be detrimental in many cases!
Re: Human Evolution Theories
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Originally Posted by My First Timbs
i didnt answer this question because they have been answered so many times in this thread
humans are not the only ones capable of rational thought (rational thought is nothing special.. its only defined as taking in external stimuli, analyzing it with a consistent thought pattern, and then acting on it in a consistent way that ultimately will lead to more benefit than detriment).. we are not the only ones to do this by a long shot... any creature with as suitable central nervous system with a complex nueral network can do this...
we also are not creatures that are NOT bound by instincts. we follow natural instinctual behavior and thought patterns on the regular.
rational thought isn't special? are you serious? Why do humans have a wide arrange of emotions? why do we question our existence? Why do we question our orgins?
I agree with that we follow natural instincts- that's why we mate, we have a survival intinct from birth to nurse from our mothers
but aside from that we can make choice that would go against instict- we're not programmed to just eat meat, we can abstain from sexual intercourse, we can make choices at the drop of hat to end our own very existance
It is our ability think freely that sets us apart from almost all animals, it's our free will that breaks our bonds from nature.
have you've been studying evoulution so long that your convinced it's absolutley the truth? Your a scientist so you do know that evolution is still therory- meaning there isn't enough evidence to confirm that it is the absolute truth. Have you ever stepped outside the box to look for evidence that could disprove the theory? Sureley with your knoweledge of the subject you would be the best canidate to do so.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...resiensis.html
^^how do these "hobbit" creatures fit into the evoulution of man?
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^^how do these "hobbit" creatures fit into the evoulution of man?
lol the same way midgets fit in are time ......thier are still alot to be found in evolution..as thier are lots of years inbetween then and now.......its like now......in diffent regions of the world will have diff types of birds same with humens..we have diff types of skin
evoulution is more then a theory since thier are artifacts of it
the same with the dinosos....so it more then theory its life ...its real
but u cant seem the except ur ansesters were monkeys lol
just like the reptiles of 2day.. dinos were thier ansesters
known fact
take that home and chew it up.....its delishes
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Originally Posted by Legato
so taking a long reach here it's possible the aliens are just humans that left earth for many generations and thus evolved into a somewhat different species? or the other way around if something came to earth and was isolated from its original species it could have evolved into the humans of today?
its plausible but unlikely due to our evolutionary past from small mammal to walking primate
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Originally Posted by Charging Soldier
rational thought isn't special? are you serious? Why do humans have a wide arrange of emotions? why do we question our existence? Why do we question our orgins?
I agree with that we follow natural instincts- that's why we mate, we have a survival intinct from birth to nurse from our mothers
but aside from that we can make choice that would go against instict- we're not programmed to just eat meat, we can abstain from sexual intercourse, we can make choices at the drop of hat to end our own very existance
It is our ability think freely that sets us apart from almost all animals, it's our free will that breaks our bonds from nature.
have you've been studying evoulution so long that your convinced it's absolutley the truth? Your a scientist so you do know that evolution is still therory- meaning there isn't enough evidence to confirm that it is the absolute truth. Have you ever stepped outside the box to look for evidence that could disprove the theory? Sureley with your knoweledge of the subject you would be the best canidate to do so.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...resiensis.html
^^how do these "hobbit" creatures fit into the evoulution of man?
i agree that our mode of thought is different from other animals.. but this is only beause of the way our central nervous system works in conjunction with our nueral network.. its nothing special about it..
so is ur argument that " because we can think and make certain decisions.. we are thus special and not the product of evolution"... thats silly
i step outside the box every day.. honestly in a scientific discipline that relies on new and incoming data there is no box ! one must always have an open mind and be willing to evaluate whatever is "new".. however, to thhis date there has been nothing that violates human evolution in anyway shape or form.
if new primate remains are found.. they fit nicely into the human evolution story!
the question truly is... do u ever step outside ur box?
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For the masses who use god as an explanation for their existence; try taking it to the second step...OK, here's the question...Where does god come from? Oops, right back to square one eh? In simplifying your existence to explain why you're here, you've actually complicated the matter, but you chose to stop there because God is all you need to know...no need to think further.
At the beginning of your sentient god's existence, how did he answer the following question to himself, "hmm, why am I here, where did I come from?". Perhaps he explained it in the same manner you have...ahh, a never ending loop with no beginning...I see, it's all clear to me now...god is hogwash. Life isn't a dress rehearsal, this is it...heaven, hell and purgatory are all to be experienced in your lifetime...live life to it's fullest now, for when you die you won't have the ability to ponder why you were wrong...there is no afterlife, there is no god. The god we know is the god we made.
