"why didn't batman go for the mask in their first fight? he should've known the mask was his weakness"
He never knew the reason for the mask until he was in prison & his caretaker told him
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"why didn't batman go for the mask in their first fight? he should've known the mask was his weakness"
He never knew the reason for the mask until he was in prison & his caretaker told him
Bane was a monster, giving him a clear backstory would only humanize him, having it left to the imagination is much more appealing.
I watched this a second time tonight, was just as great the second time.
Bane didn't clearly die, so he's being saved for another movie. He's too good for just one film.
I need to see it a second time before I can give a proper opinion of it because I felt there was a lot to take in and I think this is one of those movies that only get better with repeat viewings.
My initial thoughts though were that as a whole it was a great film that nicely wrapped up this trilogy. I felt that even though Christopher Nolan very much put his own spin on the characters he still managed to remain respectful to the source material and in my opinion he kept the spirit of each character.
I liked Tom Hardy as Bane, his voice was a bit off but otherwise he was great in the role and he really looked like a threat for batman.
Anne Hathaway as Catwoman was a pleasent surprise, I really didn't think I was going to like the character as much as I did but she nailed it.
Gordon Levitt's character was really good too and I liked the direction they went with him at the end although he should have been named after one of the established characters from the series, but I guess had Nolan done that it would have given away his payoff at the end.
Probably my only complaint was that there wasn't enough Batman (in costume) but it's a small one seeing as what they did served only to make the story better so im willing overlook it.
Right now I would give it about an 8/10 but I still need to watch it a few more times to fully take it all in so after that I might score it higher.
Yeah he took a MISSILE BLAST that clearly went through his BP vest. He IS still human. This movie is basically a grandieur Rocky III
Hathaway did it well by the book, but theres still no comparison to Pfeifer Catwoman
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the plot had lots of flaws. like robin knowing that bruce wayne was batman just cuz they gave 'the same look' is total bullshit. also i dont know how bane mysteriously knew where batmans secret armoury was. also i doubt that batman would just retire. its not very batman. TDKR comic was better cuz batman faked his death and stopped being batman but afterwards he still fought against crime by raising a secret army. i always thought batman was supposed 2 b haunted 4 eternity by his parents deaths and thats why he could never stop being batman. also in the dark knight movie batman tells these people that they cant b batman cuz theyre wearing hockey pants. basicly meaning they dont have the skills. but at the end of TDKR robin just becomes batman yet he doesnt have any ninja training or anything. hes gonna b crushed. alfred is right when he says just putting on the suit doesnt make u batman.
however it was still a very good movie but i prefer the prequels a lot more.
They said the bomb had a 6 mile blast radius too, no way he got 6 miles away in that short time.
''They said the bomb had a 6 mile blast radius too, no way he got 6 miles away in that short time''
Pay attention when he first gets the Bat. Fox says he was having autopilot issues. Bruce manages to fix it without telling him. He ejects himself from the craft before the explosion. THATS how he fakes his death. After, the scene is with Fox asking the engineers of the Bat wat he could of done to save Bruce. Thats when they notice the autopilot was already fixed by Bruce 6 months ago n Fox smiles
"like robin knowing that bruce wayne was batman just cuz they gave 'the same look' is total bullshit"
Yeah my boy called bullshit on that one too & I agree its a bit lame that he knew who he was because they shared the same "Painful Orphan Face".
"also i dont know how bane mysteriously knew where batmans secret armoury was."
Simple, John Dagget duh. John was Banes contact in the US since he hired Bane & his men from LOS over from West Africa as a "construction crew" to start building underneath Gotham. John is the hopeful new CEO of W.E. and wants Bruce out so he hires Bane to make him broke (although didnt plan for him to make Talia CEO). He gave all the information to Bane about Bruce, W.E. & most likely its structural layout of the building.
"but at the end of TDKR robin just becomes batman yet he doesnt have any ninja training or anything. hes gonna b crushed. alfred is right when he says just putting on the suit doesnt make u batman."
Who said Robin was going to become the new Batman? No one. All Bruce did was give him the cave, he can easily become his own "Robin" hero character or something along the lines of it. Picture Harry Osborne from Spider Man 3, not technically a Green Goblin or whatever but was labeled "New Goblin" and still basically did everything Harry did in Part 1.
john dagget doesnt know about it. im pretty sure only that character who morgan freeman plays (cant remember his name) knows. im sure he says in the movie. at the bit when dagget uses bruce waynes fingertips bruce asks if he got to the weapons and the guy said no. only he knows about the weapons
i cant imagine him becoming the new robin character either. hes got no real experience. he wont b able 2 fight. only thing i can see fit for him is to use the bat computer as a detective. he only has police work and a short time as being a detective 4 his skills
"john dagget doesnt know about it. im pretty sure only that character who morgan freeman plays (cant remember his name) knows. im sure he says in the movie. at the bit when dagget uses bruce waynes fingertips bruce asks if he got to the weapons and the guy said no. only he knows about the weapons"
Okay but he could of easily gave the building layout to Bane considering he would need to know Gothams structure if his crew were building from beneath the city & considering he already knew Bruce was Batman Im sure he had already seen/heard about him using Tumblers and deduced only Bruce would be requesting this from Fox who he possibly knew about some form of armoury. That or he was lucky enough to be working directly under the armoury when he blew it
"i cant imagine him becoming the new robin character either. hes got no real experience. he wont b able 2 fight. only thing i can see fit for him is to use the bat computer as a detective. he only has police work and a short time as being a detective 4 his skills"
Your point? "Batman Begins" was an origin story, why not do the same for Robin showing how he can aquire his skills in a "Robin Begins" type of movie with possibly Bruce training him?
ok but if dagget did somehow manage 2 find out about the armoury i think the movie shouldve made that more obvious. cuz the way the movie showed it only fox knew about the armoury and he never told any1. not even tate/tal al ghul. i dont think dagget wouldve found out. and if dagget did find out surely he wouldve done something with it using waynes fingerprints like everything else.
i can see ur point with robin but it just annoyed me the way in the secxond movie someone asks batman in batmans first fight scene why they cant b like him and bastman says i dont wear hockey pants. and then in this movie he says how the point of batman was anyone can be him. i think it wouldve been ok if batman chose someone who he deemed a worthy successor. but he just chose this cop and i just cant see why him. why choose him outta many people.
another thing that just came 2 my mind was how did batman silently slip in2 gotham when it was on lockdown and no one entered or got out. did he find some secret way? why not tell others to go through that way? did he drop in by helicopter? would he not have been noticed?
LOL oh when he crawls out the pit, gets BACK INTO Gotham triggering no explosions, has no means of communication or money and JUST IN TIME to fight Bane & stop the explosion? Yeah big hole right there...
"i can see ur point with robin but it just annoyed me the way in the secxond movie someone asks batman in batmans first fight scene why they cant b like him and bastman says i dont wear hockey pants. and then in this movie he says how the point of batman was anyone can be him"
Well those fake Batmen were using guns unlike him. He still practices this even on the rooftop fight scenes with Catwoman. I think he assumed Robin would take on his mantra of "no guns" and chose him especially since he knows Robin felt the same pain as him as a orphan.
The movie was fucking good. I could nitpick a few things but I won't. Movies as good as this don't come very often. I just appreciate the story in a time where we are bombarded with trash constantly.
I'm gonna be a part of the minority probably but I was disapointed.
The story just didn't do it for me. For me, the movie was going at too slow a pace.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with those kind of movies, but this one seemed to drag in a lot of places. The ending tho', somewhat made up for that.
The acting was solid, by everybody. Bane's voice was menacing, but I could do without the theatrical delivery of some of his lines.
For me the big issue was the length. I felt it didn't have to be 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Ofcourse, I saw TDK and it's hard to follow up a movie like that, but still, it could have been better IMO.
Was anybody else rooting for Bain?
In both fights I was
Just watched it finally today.
Overall, I certainly prefer the "Dark Knight" as the majority would concur, but I was entertained and pleased with how it ended.
The action was solid, Anne Hathaway surprised me with her performance; I agree I think she was my fav, but Joseph Gordon Levitt was cool too.....a minor role, but he stood out, and the potential of him becoming Robin or Nightwing was sick.
Bane's voice was cool, but I agree with someone who said he had his "theatrics" enhanced in his dialog which I didn't care for too much, and the voice enhancing was a nice touch but I gotta admit, it has hard to interpret some of the things he was saying.
Overall I thought it was decent, I'd give it a 4/5 stars
gonna attempt to watch again tomorrow morning, i fell asleep at the midnight release, they shut off the AC in the theatre i was dying of heat, i fell asleep haha
The movie was ok but lots of logical flaws. The scene with the police approaching Bain's militia in a vertical column with few casaulties is silly. If I was a police man locked into a sewer for almost 6 months, I would probably have a beard and canker sores. I guess they were licking each other to keep themselves clean (remarkable since they kept their presumably uncomfortable starched uniforms on).
Finally, where were the female cops? I would never join a police force with no female cops.
The worst was when there was about 2min left before the bomb detonates, and Batman is conversing with his wanker friends about all sorts of irrelevant shit.
i thought the second film was horribly overrated on account of a pretentious tone and ledgers performance.
this one plays like an extended version of a childrens batman cartoon show, but a bit classier. basically for my taste i thought it was a lot more enjoyable.
^ I liked the tone of the 2nd one the best, but Batman Begins never gets recognition at all.......
It's like the Inspecta Deck or Masta Killa of the trilogy.....
Batman Begins is still my fav. Batman movie, loved both Dark Knights
there are a lot of plot holes, but fuck it. shit is more fun than most movies in cinema today
^ Yea Mark Hamill is boss as Joker, just like Kevin Conroy is boss as batman
best movie of the year easily
the only movie i'm as compelled to see as much as i was for batman is moonrise kingdom
saw this at the cinema yesterday and DAMN, Christopher Nolan finally did it!! The perfect Batman trilogy.. i absolutely loved every second of it pretty much. it's kinda hard to say whether i prefer this or "The Dark Knight", but i think both are slightly better than "Begins" although that is a great flick as well.
overall "The Dark Knight" had the best villains, the performance of Heath Ledger as The Joker was of course unforgettable but i think bc of his tragic death it also overshadowed the extremely powerful performance by Aaron Eckhart as Havery "Two Face" Dent.
the main actors has all done a fantastic job in all flicks though. Christian Bale is one of the best actors of our time in my opinion; Gary Oldman is even better (imagine that Commisioner Gordon is the same guy that portrayed that wigger pimp in "True Romance", Sirius Black in the "Harry Potter" series and Dracula in "Bram Stokers..."); Morgan Freedom really nailed his character; Michael Cain as Alfred was also terrific in all the films.
now i love Tim Burton's surrealistic vision of Gotham City and the Batman characters were everybody had deep psychological problems (a billionaire dressing up as a bat to go out and fight crime come night; come on, he got to have some mental problems haha), and if Burton had been allowed to make the third flick that he had planned (whcih would have been even darker than "Batman Returns"), then it would have been incredibly interesting to compare Nolan's with Burton's trilogy.
as it is now though, i'd say that Cristopher Nolan has made the best trilogy in film, with the only exception possibly being "The Godfather". i'm not a big fan of "Star Wars", "Lord Of The Rings", "The Matrix" (except #1), etc.
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i hate the character of Robin but the way they introduced the character was perfect. no silly costume, no chosing of the mighty silly Robin name (why would a guy named Dick Grayson choose Robin as his super hero name LOL). and also i loved how Batman didn't adopt him in the literal manner in this one, check "Batman Forever" for example - LOL @ Batman adopting a 25 year old "boy". in the comics Robin is originally very young..