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Even The Living Daylights was better
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Originally Posted by 5th state
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The people that like Preacher's Daughter surely have not heard the original Dusty Springfield song? It's an awful interpolation of that song that is sung terribly. I really don't mind the album but that part is just awful.
ha, i really don't know know what you guys are listening to if you can't see how terrible rae is now. i mean, he was possibly my favourite of the clan, but now is unlistenable.Quote:
Originally Posted by DR. NICK RIVIERA
listen to his fucking verse on Crushed Egos.... what beat is he rapping to? he's just laying down a verse continuously which barely even rhymes... same with Miracle, same with Necklace... same with all of his verses for the last few years. he never catches a beat on this album.
What verse was so great from him? What made him stand out? his lyrics? lol.
I don't see what tool Rae really has beyond his slang and flow... i just wish he'd recycle his old flow like he does his lyrics.
I am still waiting for my cd to arrive (was gonna order the vinyl but have to wait till Jan for it, plus you have to get a bundle) but this is getting awful reviews, and it's looking like the general consensus is that it's worse than 8 Diagrams, but I kinda liked that album so I'm remaining positive.
There are 4 hip hop albums this year that are head and shoulders above the rest IMO, bearing in mind I still have a lot to listen to but I've heard quite a bit and nothing is touching these 4 for me.
CunnininLynguists - Strange Journey Vol 3 : huge fan but this blew me away
Freddie Gibbs x Madlib - Piñata : no words needed
Young Fathers - Dead : this is how you construct a cohesive, powerful hiphop album with lots of singing. These guys are real talent
clipping. - Clppng : noise hiphop at it's finest. Shits all over death grips with an actually very good rapper
R_____.
Kind of off topic, but to add to the good albums released this year, Your Old Droog has been my favorite.
it's the horns on preachers daughter that makes it unlistenable IMO.. it starts off good than the cornyass horns go in.
The best songs on the album for me are Necklace and Felt.
After that there's Hold your Heater, Crushed Egos, Ron O'Neal and Ruckus.
I like that the first song has the word "ruckus" in the title, there's some other callbacks to earlier Wu songs-
- the bass on Mistaken Identity is similar to GZA's Living In The World Today
-Ron O'Neal has that Wu-Tang Ain't Nothin To Fuck With- sounding guitar lick
-Hold The Heater is damn near a remake of Shadowboxin'
-Pioneer The Frontier has that flourish from Protect Ya Neck
I'm of two minds on this. It's cool to have these callbacks but it also makes the album feel a bit like a novelty record.
When Miracle started I thought my wife's Rent soundtrack had somehow made its way onto my playlist. It's a shame because without that terrible hook it's not bad.
40th st is an odd one. It's cheesy but has an upbeat energy that's sort of infectious.
Never Let Go is bland but not offensively bad.
I have nothing good to say about Preacher's Daughter, Wu-Tang Reunion or A Better Tomorrow. I think they're all super corny.
There's some good stuff here, some even great, but there are also some seriously awful tracks. A sameness creeps in that reminds me of Legendary Weapons and 12RTD. This is the problem I have had with RZA (and others) using bands, instead of opening up his sound it confines it.
Miracle is awful. Plain shit
Daughter of a Preacher Man sounds like RZA trying to satify his friend Quentin Tarantino.
Those 2 tracks are fucking disgraceful.
Still listening maybe they will grow on me like a wart. LOL
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Originally Posted by the hound
ptsd>abt
I listened to the album yesterday and i do think, it's average. Nothing great there, just a producer who is trying to become an artist and some tired mcs who were there to be there. They just rap to rap. So I tell them, stop this shit now, you r done !
I am tired of hip hop right now, so I leave. I am tired of 2000's music that is wack as Lady caca artistic talent. Dope hip hop albums, this year ? Is it a fucking joke ? For me hip hop is fucking dead. Like music too. I will go and listen to real music. Music from the 50s, 60s, 70s and certainly classic music. Certainly hip hop from 80s and 90S.
Adios muchachos.
Miracle awful? wtfQuote:
Originally Posted by BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
It's incredible to see the opinions on songs and the album, it's not even cohesive, each opinion is so different that you can't pin it down anymore. The reviews as well, it's either a horrible album or a great album, not even a grey area.
Damn, man, this is why I love you, you never disappoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
The butthurt is strong in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by CashRules
I've been here for a long time and I will always consider myself a WuTang fan. Your forum name is a better
Wu-tang song than all of ABT.
Let us be serious here for a moment. 1st problem: the wu ain't hungry no mo, 2nd: the wu don't work together in studio anymore, making it impossible to make cohesive, on topic songs (sure, even forever had songs like impossible, that had three unconnected verses, but at least that song had dope verses), 3rd: it was better when they followed RZA 100%, but RZA lost it and some egos are too big
The results you can hear now on ABT. It is not wu, its a rza project with too many lame verses and lame hooks.
I get it. Nathaniel's hook is cringe worthy. However, the rest or the track is dope as hell. I can see how that intro/hook would ruin the track for some. I think the album is very dope, but would be much better without Nathaniel. Only song that was totally ruined by his presence is Keep Watch imo. Ron O'neal and Miracle are both good songs despite Nathaniel imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
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Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Understood.
I just cant vibe with the chorus of Miracle. It sounds so disney to me. I feel like its a take on Frozen or some shit. Just my opinion. I aint knocking those who like it. I just cant get into it I listened to it back to back all morning during my commute hoping I can get past the chorus, it didnt happen. Instead I was upset they placed that chorus between every verse.
Miracle's chorus on first listen was a huge WTF.. but after listening to it so many times. It is a fucking work of art. I get hypnotized by that track and to me the chorus does make it better.
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Originally Posted by JZA/Jordon
Trust me im one of the biggest Wu fans.
I will listen again and again. Hopefully it grows on me.
The horns are why I like that track so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Illmatic Hispanic
I never seen more mixed feelings towards an album in my life
Please
Does anyone is able to make an another version of miracle?
Like someone did it with keep watch
We really want miracle without nathaniel.
Nathaniel ruins ABT , its shame , without him this album should be almost a classic
Familly reunion iis useless , chorus is also a garbage, i prefer execution in automn instead of
Great Album..RZA has grown, Wu was always his baby, hes the Abbot afterall.. He wanted to leave a mark, he knows he has a responsibility ..The first album he bought the ruckus and mostly darkness ,he learned lots and has grown, he now bringing more light, more hope,Negativity is always easier to spit about..Dudes in the hood be kinda childish sometimes and fronting, too self conscious to show some heart or light, always wantin to look tough, thats understandable in day to day life living in the hood, but as men who mostly own their own houses out of the hood, have good career , jobs, money, they need to show the kids that its possible to get the hell outta that shit too!!..RZA made sure RAE and Ghost especially weren't gonna speak too much of that shit on this album,He wanted to leave a positive message for the youths of today... I'm with that!!! How many grown, adult mainstream rappers be doing this at present?? Not many! It goes to show what kind of mindstate the industries got alot of stuck in, we just happy with being superficial, moody and negative!
And RZA is the creator of the wu sound, he always had a vision to orchestrate his own music.. He's grown, he would rather people sample his music than he keep paying for samples,hes a visionary, a pioneer he wanted the group to show growth.. The message on this album is important.. The music is interesting, creative, give it time and it may grow on you..Imagine more of those sick wu beats in true live style such as on this album!!
It could have always been a better album or worst..But I think it is what it is, I'm enjoying listening to this, its got a new kind of energy to it, I wana hear more of these new RZA type Wu Albums... Time to move on, let ears open up to new possibilities, and not stay still and stagnated. I was happy To hear all of them on mostly top form..
If you don't like this album, fair enough, but it may just show you haven't grown, haven't moved on in some ways too!! (Yes i wish there was more darker wu beats on this too such as 'Pioneer the frontier' , but I can go dig those up from the past) I especially hope RZA work with Meth, U-GOD, MK, and GZA with this new sound their flows seem to sit perfect on this live shit!! Peace
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Originally Posted by Sparrow Daene
nice one :)
tbh this new album is so good I'm giving 8D a few more tries this week to see if I can get into the whole album more now, instead of just liking parts of it.
You enjoying the new album too?
Peace.
I consider it the dumb fun song on the album. Gives off an ODB vibe. To each their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hound
The original song is a smooth classic obv no doubt about it. I don't get the impression the Wu's interpretation is about trying to be at the same level. It's a different type of song.
Miracle to me, with that chorus/sounds is similar to Reunited in listening experience - who could've said Reunited sounded Wu when they first heard it?
No disrespect man (as you know) but to me Reunited was vintage wu the first time I heard it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JZA/Jordon
Btw I'd be interested in hearing what you thought were the good songs on Forever. Thought you wrote earlier on there were some really good songs and then a lot of duds.
Back on topic, 'Miracle' has grown on me, as has the whole album.
Peace.
Love positive messages. A Better Tomorrow is a great track. So is the original.
Miracle is strange to me. I will keep spinning it.
What's strange about "if a million sons can stand as one, we will overcome?" If Blue Raz sung it , it would be fire , but it's a deep track regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
^The singing sounds like a Disney song.
Forever was a bad example, I mean RZA could have easily perfected the album as a 1 Disk record.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5th state
But to me The W is a better example, a few great songs but the rest are duds.
ABT I can enjoy from track 1-15
i don't know wat to tell u man.. but miracle is fucking sicc. MK rips it.
It really does. It's a testament to how good the song is otherwise that I can still enjoy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRASSKNUCKLED PAI MEI
edited all hooks out of miracle. shit bangs in the car now. honestly I didn't think id like this shit at all but it's pretty good. there's a few skip able tracks but some dope ones too. the hooks and cappadonna massively drag down the album. less cappa, more ugod and masta killa. if all those hooks were wu chants the shit would be different too.
Cappa sounds better than U-God on this album. I don't get the hate...
8D was the same. First impressions and that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumm Ra
Liking this album more in my whip, not as soft as 8d
lol @ comparing "Reunited" to "Miracle."
that's like comparing The Wire To My Little Pony
when "Reunited" came out, the most negative comment about it was "HOLY SHIT THAT SONG IS AWESOME."
THE ENDING OF MIRACLE WAS GAY AS FUK
THAN IT GOES INTO THE COUNTRY SONG, WORST TRANSITION TO THIS ALBuM
BESIDES THAT RZA TRIED HIS BEST TO MAKE A THUG ALBUM
HE HAD QUENTIN TARINTO IN THE STUDIO WHEN HE DID THE PREACHERS DAUGHTER SONG