"Ask My First Timbs" Q&A thread

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did bush knock down the towers?


peace

http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22641

jus out of interest, who's that in your sig?^^

that's a mujahid brother.

I asked a Professor this question but he couldn't answer. Here it goes.

What percentage of genetic deviation does two species have to possess in order to no longer be able to breed together?

Thank you in advance.

Peace

Do you think we will ever reach a point in time were everyone is eternal and can live through time and forever exist? Possibly go anywhere anytime in any form or fasion?

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

I asked a Professor this question but he couldn't answer. Here it goes.

What percentage of genetic deviation does two species have to possess in order to no longer be able to breed together?

Thank you in advance.

Peace

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great question

the answer is vey simple

the % of genetic difference is of little consequence

it could be as little as a .05% genetic homology or as great as 99% genetic difference. the percentage or "amount" of genetic difference plays little role

what is important (and the deciding factor) is how the genetic difference (however small it is in relation to the entire genome of the animal/species) manifests itself in the actual creature/species.

the chimpanze is about 10% (give or take a few %) genetically different than us and we cant produce offspring.. in contrast, the bengal tiger and the african lion are about 26% genetically "different", yet the two can indeed mate and produce offspring. (even tho the offspring are not fertile, but the point is made)

your question is simply answered but has a much deeper foundation... that being how does one define a "species"

do we simply define a species as a group or population that can interbreed? or do we define a species gentically? or do we define a species by some other classification.. that is the crux of the issue and is still heavily debated in science.

we cant simply define a species as a group of individuals who have ability to interbreed, because of course that leaves out a carload of organisms that do not reproduce through sexual means.

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Originally Posted by akabobbyd

Do you think we will ever reach a point in time were everyone is eternal and can live through time and forever exist? Possibly go anywhere anytime in any form or fasion?

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i honestly do not see why not... if we are on this planet for the time needed to develop such technology, the possibilities are endless.. (especially is coupled with an ability to harness space time itself)

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

great question

the answer is vey simple

the % of genetic difference is of little consequence

it could be as little as a .05% genetic homology or as great as 99% genetic difference. the percentage or "amount" of genetic difference plays little role

what is important (and the deciding factor) is how the genetic difference (however small it is in relation to the entire genome of the animal/species) manifests itself in the actual creature/species.

the chimpanze is about 10% (give or take a few %) genetically different than us and we cant produce offspring.. in contrast, the bengal tiger and the african lion are about 26% genetically "different", yet the two can indeed mate and produce offspring. (even tho the offspring are not fertile, but the point is made)

your question is simply answered but has a much deeper foundation... that being how does one define a "species"

do we simply define a species as a group or population that can interbreed? or do we define a species gentically? or do we define a species by some other classification.. that is the crux of the issue and is still heavily debated in science.

we cant simply define a species as a group of individuals who have ability to interbreed, because of course that leaves out a carload of organisms that do not reproduce through sexual means.

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A+ answer, thank you:D

I asked that question to a teacher who called me after he received a research paper I did on a Dravidan bust which I referred to as an Ancient Ethiopian. He gave me his spill about how we (different "races" he's white) are so much generically alike and that there's not much difference between us. I know and understand that, but I wanted to test him on some info he was trying to dish out. I asked him the question and he didn't know the answer. Not to say that he's any less of a professional or whatever but don't try to debate something that you don't know much about. Anyway... I gave him his respect, got my grade and trucked on.

I chose to ask my genetically inclined comrade this question cause I knew you would hold me down. If you want I can shoot you the paper for your review.

Take it easy Brother
Peace

a feeling of a out of body experience....like zoning out from what u were doing and then feeling like u are pulling away from ur self...
feeling numb from ur body

is thier any terms for this
do u know any thing about this
....
i got this feeling a cople of times...and its hard to explain
...
peace

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Originally Posted by Legato

you should present your teacher with timbs response and see what he says. it would be interesting.

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If I see him again I will.

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Originally Posted by Palehorse

timbs is it true that we are genetically closer to pigs and cows?

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compared to what?

compared to oranges.. yes, we are more close to pigs and cows then we are to oranges and other fruit (yes, we are genetically related to fruits and veggies)

but compared to other living primates such as chimps and gorillas, no

pigs and cows are distant distant distant distant distant cousins , any argument or stance that states that pigs and cows are closer to humans is wrong.

yo timbs..if you got 36 bitches and 30 cents in your pocket..what do you got?

In the bible...

Kain killed Abel...god said he was going to banish Kain.
and Kain said bassically to god, "please don't because they would kill me out there"
and then god placed a mark on kain so for whoever findeth kain won't kill him.

...now this is 2 part question...and i can't get a straight answer from anyone that makes sense and won't raise more questions. and im not looking for possiblities..i want answers dammit lol..not being rude.

ok so the questions are...
if its only Adam, Eve and Kain after Abel being dead.
what group of people was Kain so afraid of?
and whatever happened to Kain? he just up and left? lol

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Originally Posted by iNtell3kT

In the bible...

Kain killed Abel...god said he was going to banish Kain.
and Kain said bassically to god, "please don't because they would kill me out there"
and then god placed a mark on kain so for whoever findeth kain won't kill him.

...now this is 2 part question...and i can't get a straight answer from anyone that makes sense and won't raise more questions. and im not looking for possiblities..i want answers dammit lol..not being rude.

ok so the questions are...
if its only Adam, Eve and Kain after Abel being dead.
what group of people was Kain so afraid of?
and whatever happened to Kain? he just up and left? lol

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that my friend is one of the plethora of examples of Biblical Errancy (biblical errors)

There were other people on Earth before them. The Bible is not the true beginning of humanity.

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Originally Posted by V4D3R

There were other people on Earth before them. The Bible is not the true beginning of humanity.

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oh i know, i just wanted to see what he says.

Sumarians were thousands of years before jesus.
and they too (like every major society through out the ages)
had a story that the son of god was born from a virgin
and adventually died for everyones sins...its a bunch of bullshit to me.

i don't even think Jesus ever excisted.

there is no evidence that there ever was a physical Jesus who walked the earth.

withouyt evidence , we are left to side with the notion that most likely the "Jesus" is an amalgam of borrowed mythological archetypes

yeh the sotry of jesus is just a very well explained metaphore for something else.

like i forget, i think it was the egyptians (not sure, might be the myans)
that made a calender, that had all the zodiacs in a circle, and a even cross
in it to devide the 4 seasons, and in the center of the cross on the calender was the
sun (or son) and every december 25th they would say "the sun as been reborn"
i would go into
more but meh.

the correlation of "son of god" vs "the sun" and "jesus being the light of the world" are all borrowed concepts from prior cultures that worshipped the solstice.

dec 25th was already a recognized holiday way before xtianty was a twinkle in the eye of Josephus.

I'm going to come at you with questions about sound and words later Timbs. Lemme get my thoughts organized.

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Originally Posted by Legato

sup with the new book?

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:)

its comin. ive been workin extra hard on finishing it up for th epast few months.. in addition to the 2nd edition of a call to sanity (relaunch in september)

the new book is gonna be my new baby tho... im pullin out all the stops with this one and tryin to make it all encompassing...

as of right now the book is gonna be named " Religious Nonsense"... but everyday i keep switching the title up....

how u let em know that u bout it bout it without bussin shells boy?

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Originally Posted by iNtell3kT

In the bible...

Kain killed Abel...god said he was going to banish Kain.
and Kain said bassically to god, "please don't because they would kill me out there"
and then god placed a mark on kain so for whoever findeth kain won't kill him.

...now this is 2 part question...and i can't get a straight answer from anyone that makes sense and won't raise more questions. and im not looking for possiblities..i want answers dammit lol..not being rude.

ok so the questions are...
if its only Adam, Eve and Kain after Abel being dead.
what group of people was Kain so afraid of?
and whatever happened to Kain? he just up and left? lol

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Shalam iNtell3kT


The group of people that Cain (the first so-called whiteman) was so afraid of were the other nations that existed at the time (who by the way were all so-called black people). Adam and Eve (who were themselves so-called black people) were not the first two people according to the Bible. All of the nations that were created in the beginning were created on the Sixth Day as it tells us in Genesis the 1st chapter the 26th through the 28th verse. This is something not taught in the so-called churches because the so-called churches of this world were set up to teach lies.


The World's Best Kept Secret http://www.theholyconceptionunit.org/

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

referring to the concept of collective conscious



referring to the concept of collective conscious

yes i do believe in it but purely from a biological/evolutionary standpoint



sure,

the common understanding of collective conscious is that basically there is a medium that exists thru which humans (and possibly other creatures) can all simultaneously "tap into" (on a subconscious level) that contains information about humanity on a whole or particular "cultural knowledge" on the whole... ie, the brain can tap into a wealth of information (similar how we can use the internet to learn about any thing ).............but the thing is.. the common understanding of collective conscious attributes this concept to the existence of an "ether" of sorts. (ie a "vehicle" thru which this knowledge and awareness travels thru and exists in at the same time)

this is where the rational atheist differs.

we view the conceptive of "collective consciousness" more as simply "ingrained understanding" or "instinctual knowledge", that existsview the years of genetic success and failures in natural selection. (basicaly think of it as encoded in our genome in a sense)

for example, when i talk about collective consciousness, i am merely referring to all humans or a significant group of humans sharing a certain understanding or wealth of knowledge or way of thought, without ever having any type of cultural information exchange! (and hence, by my definition, certain things "known" via collective consciousness can apply to all of humanity and certain things can only apply to certain populations of humans).. generally the broader the concept, the greater the chance of it applying to all of humaniity, the more specific teh concept, the less chance that it applies to all of humanity.

case in point, most cultures on teh planet at one point or another have developed a concept of dragons. regardless of where they were on the planet at that time, all of these cultures came up with this concept of a scary creature with wings, big teeth, scales and a tail and some claws.....(altho we know for a fact that such a creature never existed) and more importantly dinosaurs and humans never lived side by side!

so where did this concept of a scary dragon come from?

this is where collective consciousness comes in via evolutionary mechanisms (ie genetic succes/failure, and natural selection!)

although humans were not around during dinosaur times, early humans (that we all stem from!) were indeed alive on the planet when there were very large cats to fear, very deadly snakes to fear and very large birds of prey to fear!

the concept of the "dragon" is a concept created and shared in teh colective consciousness of all humans based on natural selection. Early humans who were the most afraid of snakes, lareg cats and predatory birds, were the ones who ebded up living long ebuff to have offspring. those offspring (genetically) more times than not, retained a vital genetic charateristic (that being a fear of snakes, cats and birds).. over time this genetic trait to have this fear has trickled down to all of humanity across the globe...and ultimately the fear has manifested itself by amalgamation ( a melting of the concepts together), thus the creation of the "dragon" (a scary creature that has large teeth and claws like a large cat, has wings and flies liek a predatory bird and has scales and a tongue like a deadly snake!)

the dragon was created via our collective consciousness (ie different cultures who have never exchanged ideas tapped into this geneticically ingrained wealth of knowledge) in order to come up with a similar concept or way of thought

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simply dope

I love all this shit. You know we're all children of Cain? Look it up. Noah was a descendent of Cain and only his family survived the flood. We're all the cursed bloodline-Jews, blacks, whites, asians, whateva. Curse all you descendants of Cain!

I'm sorry but I gotta ask seriously- do you Holy Conception Unit brothers even listen to Wu Tang or do you just come here to recruit?

questions from a white boy about the song Nature of the Threat by Ras Kass

if you haven't heard it thats ok, reading hte lyrics does the same trick.. i was just wondering how accurate all of the things Ras Kass mentions. I don't mean the parts about every white person being a potential predator... just about the way humans have evolved and spread out of Africa (first caucasian man considered the outcast for instance). Also when he talks about in the year 2050 world's population being all brown then black because of the dominance genetically of our skin colour (white man's precautions being breeding within caucasians and keeping blacks in this stage of inferiority and disease...??). but logically thinking wouldn't that take a significantly huge amount of time to become true?

lyrics: http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/ras_k...threat.rsk.txt should be good enough

Peace.

up

Peace to the forum. I took like a 6 year hiatus while starting a company.

funny

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

the correlation of "son of god" vs "the sun" and "jesus being the light of the world" are all borrowed concepts from prior cultures that worshipped the solstice.

dec 25th was already a recognized holiday way before xtianty was a twinkle in the eye of Josephus.

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i dont think theyre borrowed. i think its an example of jungian archetypes.

theres some evidence for jesus but definitely not enough to make a conclusive statement that he was a real person.

i believed he was a real man because its improbable that a group of people made up a character that lots of people followed.

but the real jesus was deluded although i think he had great morals.

the church corrupted a lot of his teachings and tricked people. such as jesus' birthday

the shit we going through on earth.....and we are still talking about what we think someone amazing might have done 2000 years ago in hopes that he'll come back and do it again - humans are fucking stupid

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the shit we going through on earth.....and we are still talking about what we think someone amazing might have done 2000 years ago in hopes that he'll come back and do it again - humans are fucking stupid

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hahahahahahahahahahaha.

jesus is dead forever but i still look at him as a gr8 example just like socrates plato napoleon etc

LL Cool J is a great example

jesus is a an example of what man can't do


like walk on water, live after death, smile and bless a nigga while that nigga is beating him to death -

walking on water may be fun, then turning that shit into wine for my mouth would be the icing on the cake -



"Boogie down the streets, to the hardcore beat, while my JVCs vibrate the concrete" _ now that's shit i can follow

my first timbs


have you found god yet

Which god are you speaking of?

any of them

which one did you find

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any of them

which one did you find

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Well.. Been doing alot if reading up on Mithra this past year. Mithra seems kinda cool ( and familiar being that Mithra was also virgin-born)..

Im also digging the proactivity of Zeus. So many choices.......... How does one rationally decide which god to choose?