What are your unpopular opinions on hiphop that you like to say, not giving a fuck?

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Originally Posted by mai wang tu phat

mf doom is overrated, so is madlib

j dilla is overrated

jay-z is nowhere near being the best rapper out there

wu-tang clan...isn't that legendary

rap isn't the best genre of music. Not that much creativity is involved with most rap.

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+1

never really got into 2 pac

fuck jay-z never listened to one of his albums and never will

fuck diddy too

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Originally Posted by YungSunny

I think people are trying to use this thread to look badass and "against the grain".

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Agree with that.

People are full of hate these days, should just listen to what they think is good and let others do the same. It brings nothing to the forum when you're just posting an one-liner saying that someone is overrated.

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Originally Posted by YungSunny

"against the grain".

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I was going to say something about this, but after I made my post, I'd look like an idiot. It's not a bad thing to not like certain things, to think things are overrated, but to bitch all the time like a lot of people do is dumb

I think Gucci Mane will die a Legend

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

1. Common, Talib Kweli, and Mos Def are all overrated. wackass jazzy backpack beats with their stupid conscious bullshit - I dont buy into that. resurrection was far too overrated, only good songs being resurrection and I used to love her. rest are wack cause of commons monotone delivery. they all need to write a book instead if you wanna express knowledge.

2. ATLiens is by far the most overrated album ever considered a classic.

3. Lupe Fiasco is the most overrated rapper ever since he entered the game.

4. Rakim is the most overrated rapper OF ALL-TIME. his monotone style puts me to sleep. no swag, no charisma. he gets a pass for being a pioneer but other than that, his style is straight up wacka nd puts me to sleep.

5. AZ shouldve retired after his 2nd album. he's done nothing after that, talkin about the same shit. his career is an epic failure.

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co-sign this i fucking hate them concious rappers...i more find dudes like wiz khalifa or pack FM better cuz they spit sum hard shit nd can still use complex words nd shit...just started listening to wiz lately nd im a big fan aalrdy

B-Real is one of the illest mc's ever!!

ironman is better than supreme clientele

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Originally Posted by Robbie Sinclair

The average hip hop fan or aspiring artist in 2010 is a full blown retard with the emotional scale of a child. Their so-called innovation often appears faux (and can be traced to outside genres). For some reason listening habits are linear and this has become the "norm". Disrespect towards musicians from the past is at an all time high, -this attitude damages the genre as a whole, strips the music of depth and makes outsiders of the genre perceive it as silly.



Why do you think it's being mocked in car commercials, movies and politics?

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brilliant post.

some unpopular opinions:

anyone who only listens to hiphop and refuses to embrace other genres of music and isn't 15 or younger is an idiot and their opinion on music of any kind is worthless.

one of the reasons hiphop struggles for crediblity is that so many people involved with it are blatantly and shamelessly treating it 'as a hustle' and 'artistic integrity' is treated like a dirty word.

jadakiss and styles are incredibly overrated, they've both used the same flow for almost 15 years and their lyrics and 'punchlines' are predictable and banal.

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milli vanilli was hip hop, musically and empheramerically.

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wtf?
empheramerically? does anyone have any idea...?

that lil' Wayne is garbage and always been trash.

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Originally Posted by SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS

that lil' Wayne is garbage and always been trash.

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i thought that was a well known fact, not an unpopular opinion

if anyone dissed necro and he released a diss on his a game he would son almost any rapper out their

sonny seeza is overlooked in terms of his contribution to onyx albums

MJG is a better mc than 8ball

if tech n9ne got played on mainstream outlets as much as wayne he would be considered the greatest mc ever bar none

i never really thought too short was anything special, but hes mentored some of the greats outta the west, rappin 4 tay and spice

i still say everyone in goodie mob is a nice mc, khujo, gipp t-mo and c-lo

wu-tang and their affiliates were some of the msot gifted mcs ever, but while wutang got their shine they fucked up trying to release their affils albums, see shabazz, sunz of man, royal fam, this probably woulda broadened their appeal and legacy

whoever ses the south cant produce conciuos mcs is lying to themselves, cuz they havent heard of willie d ( he could get political_, scarface, andre 3000, ceelo, mjg ( trust me some of his verses are epic, check him out on pimps in the house), cunninlynguists etc.

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Originally Posted by Jasjit

whoever ses the south cant produce conciuos mcs is lying to themselves, cuz they havent heard of willie d ( he could get political_, scarface, andre 3000, ceelo, mjg ( trust me some of his verses are epic, check him out on pimps in the house), cunninlynguists etc.

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jay electronica certainly doesn't say that hahahahaha

Kanye West is an AMAZING producer, and has classics as an artist too.

Jay-Z is a legend.

2pac is the most overrated thing in hip hop.

Kool G Rap is overrated

Nas > Cormega > AZ

Method man is the best member of wutang, and always has been. Raekwon is nothing amazing.

99% of the stuff that comes out of the South is terrible. That 1% is people like scarface, andre 3000, and ludacris.

az is the most consistant m.c but most boring to listen to after a while.

cormega is a b grade rapper if I ever heard one.

jay-z is so overated it`s laughable.

The clan aint been dope since forever.

rza as rzarectah is probably the best m.c to ever touch a mic.

Vinnie paz is actually dope.


gza has good lyics but listening to him is like watching paint dry.


when rappers drop so called knowledge it`s a joke.

People who actually rely on the so called knowledge that rappers drop for there own wisdom in life is even more of a joke.


rae n ghost are not good rappers


method man is just a wannabe pop rapper now and aint been dope since forever.

redman has no real flow same with jay-z...when they rap it seems laboured.


eminem is a joke and has been since his second album.


There are no dope new rappers out.


mase was tight back in his guest spots for bad boy


mase outshone big on mo money.


holocaust can`t even rap.


killarmy bar killa sin and dom p are wack.

9th prince is the worst rapper to ever touch a mic period.


peace be with you !

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Originally Posted by AngelTheKiller

The best southern rap is OutKast.

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The best southern rap is UGK my nigga

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Originally Posted by jwad

2pac is the most overrated thing in hip hop.

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this has definately turned into a popular opinion

Proof was one of the weaker MCs in D12.

Blaze (Ya' Dead Homie) albums shit on your favorite rapper's discography.

The seeds of legendary rappers have no business picking up a mic and having a career simply because their fathers are revered (that includes the sons of Wu-Generals).

Snoop Dogg was never a dope MC, just a marketable image.

Roc-A-Fella records, even in it's hey-day was filled with bum ass rappers, weed carriers and other lame ass dudes. The dopest motherfuckers on the label (ODB & M.O.P.) never released albums during their tenure.

GZA's Beneath The Surface album is horrible. The only track I like on it is "Outro", and he doesnt even rap on it.

2 Pac is the most overrated rapper ever, and I personally blame him for every white chick that tries to be black.

RZA is one of top 5 MCs ever to spit.

Femme-C's should stop rapping (or try to). They are horrible rappers and should stick to suckin d1ck.

Drake is horrible and his rise to fame completely boggles my mind.

Lordz of Brooklyn "All in the Family" was an amazing album no one has ever heard of.

The completely straight brim on a ball cap is a retarded look. This fad has lasted way longer then I thought it ever would.

Skinny tight jeans are nice pants......on a woman.

Hopefully this means that no one will hate in other threads, now they have their very own "I'm officially a hater and somehow hate everything"-thread.

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Originally Posted by Damon

GZA's Beneath The Surface album is horrible.

Drake is horrible and his rise to fame completely boggles my mind.

Lordz of Brooklyn "All in the Family" was an amazing album no one has ever heard of.

The completely straight brim on a ball cap is a retarded look. This fad has lasted way longer then I thought it ever would.

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co-sign

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

People who actually rely on the so called knowledge that rappers drop for there own wisdom in life is even more of a joke.

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hahahaha

if anyone else had said this it would have been a reasonable point, but you!

ahhahahaha

Exactly why I still post here lol

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Originally Posted by baritone

The best southern rap is UGK my nigga

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Eh, I'd hate to think so. I really don't think much tops OutKast's first three albums from the south.

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Originally Posted by AngelTheKiller

Eh, I'd hate to think so. I really don't think much tops OutKast's first three albums from the south.

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Scarface.

^^^which album

and goodie mob's 'soul food' and cunninlynguist's 'a piece of strange' and 'dirty acres' are up there as well

and to be fair, there isn't much in hiphop period that can compare to outkast's catalogue

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Originally Posted by Pandemic

^^^which album

and goodie mob's 'soul food' and cunninlynguist's 'a piece of strange' and 'dirty acres' are up there as well

and to be fair, there isn't much in hiphop period that can compare to outkast's catalogue

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lyrically speaking i think Face is better. 3 Stacks MIGHT be able to fuck with him now, but Face has always held it down and while his albums might not hold up to the trifecta that Outkast dropped, "The Fix" was absolutely a classic and all his other work pretty much speaks for itself

not tryin to hate but some of ur guys opinions suck, LOl at tupac being overrated, LOL at grap being overrated, LOL at snoop never being a good mc,

most people today dont know what real rap is


Distant relatives is a banger

oh yeah....gucci mane is and always will be complete trash.

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Originally Posted by MrMef

oh yeah....gucci mane is and always will be complete trash.

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he got some of the funniest tracks ever though. "i can't stop i won't stop i keep gettin' money, never too much, never too much money" hahahahahaha best hook ever.

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Originally Posted by Pandemic

^^^which album

and goodie mob's 'soul food' and cunninlynguist's 'a piece of strange' and 'dirty acres' are up there as well

and to be fair, there isn't much in hiphop period that can compare to outkast's catalogue

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If you include Geto Boys albums

Geto Boys - We Cant be Stopped
Geto Boys - The Resurrection
Geto Boys - Grip It! On That Other Level

As far as solo:
Mr. Scarface Is Back
The Diary
The Fix

imo 'the diary' is the only one of scarface's albums that approaches any of outkast's stuff...i haven't listened to enough geto boys other than 'we can't be stopped' to speak on that

unpopular opinion:
pete rock is a better/more versatile producer than premier

I think both groups have at least 3 classics under their belts.

*tries to think of something to grab people's attention to fit into the spirit of this thread*

GZA is an average MC!
RZA's best production is ok at best.
There are at least 50 better more talented rhymers than Pharoah.
The production and rhyming on Illmatic is garbage.
Give me any Nelly album over any Gangstarr album.
Rakim was always wack. His lyrics never stood out in any way.
The more I listen to Souljah Boi, the more I'm starting to think he is among the elite MCs of the new generation.

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Originally Posted by hide1998

RZA's best production is ok at best.
The production and rhyming on Illmatic is garbage.
Give me any Nelly album over any Gangstarr album.
The more I listen to Souljah Boi, the more I'm starting to think he is among the elite MCs of the new generation.

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LOL....I'll give you credit for at least keeping with the theme of the thread title, but mind you these opinions should be in a thread titled...


Give your opinions on hip hop if your outta your fuking mind and have no idea what your talking about (Official Thread)

The thing i wonder everytime i read these threads, is "what the fuck do you people like".

You see guys saying shit like Nas never released anything worth listening to after Illmatic (or that Illmatic is trash), Biggie is trash, i hate Jay Z and will never listen to one of his records, GZA is a bad mc, Nelly > Gangstarr, RZA's best production is ok at best, Femcees should stick tyo sucking dick etc. etc. etc.

That's just in the last page pretty much.

If you feel this way, you really shouldn't listen to hip hop.

I know music is subjective, but what kind of hip hop fan thinks retarded shit like this?

lol, you fucking fags.

Dungeon Family >>>> Wu-Tang
Goodie MOb >>>>> Outkast
DIGITAL BULLET is the last album to come out of the Wu with any balls
Kanye ruined Common
DJ Krush is the most underrated producer/DJ in hip-hop

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

The thing i wonder everytime i read these threads, is "what the fuck do you people like".

You see guys saying shit like Nas never released anything worth listening to after Illmatic (or that Illmatic is trash), Biggie is trash, i hate Jay Z and will never listen to one of his records, GZA is a bad mc, Nelly > Gangstarr, RZA's best production is ok at best, Femcees should stick tyo sucking dick etc. etc. etc.

That's just in the last page pretty much.

If you feel this way, you really shouldn't listen to hip hop.

I know music is subjective, but what kind of hip hop fan thinks retarded shit like this?

lol, you fucking fags.

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hahahaha

in general, hiphop fans are some of the most fickle and unintelligent out of any music genre.

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Originally Posted by Killbot

co-sign this i fucking hate them concious rappers...i more find dudes like wiz khalifa or pack FM better cuz they spit sum hard shit nd can still use complex words nd shit...just started listening to wiz lately nd im a big fan aalrdy

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Ha, i never thought i'd see some actually co signing what that faggit Chungwassity or whatever the fuck he's called had to say.

Yeah bro, i guess you prefer unconscious rappers right?

I like Wiz Khalifa, but saying he is remotely complex is border line retarded.

People who completely rule out so much of hp hop are just fucking idiots.

I know like "it's just their opinion bros" but not listening to something simply because you want to label it as "conscious" (an unbelievable stupid term i might add) is fucking idiotic.

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

9. Prodigy is the most underrated rapper ever especially lyrically.

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I agree. I got into Mobb Deep a little late but I'm wishing I hadn't slept on them for so long. The Infamous, Hell On Earth and Murder Muzik are all dope.