What do yall think about the Black Egyptian theory

i think only some Egyptian Pharoah's were black

Egypt had close contact to Punt (seen by some as modern day Somalia)

the Ethiopian kingdom

and Nubia (now Sudan) (bear in mind at this point Sudan was inhabited by blacks and the Arabs invaded Sudan only 5/600 hundred years ago)


now i think the reason some the Pharoahs were portrayed as black because Nubia and Egypt were constantly warring and I know Nubia invaded Egypt at least once, hence why when it was controlled by Nubians inevitably some the Nubians become Pharoahs

im no egypt expert tho

but i think that the theory counter to mine is bullshit and just misguided and largely false Pan Africanism.

if these Pan-African advocates read a bit more they would promote the Songhai/Asante empires and Nubia/Ethipian empires more.

On a religious level, I mean Ethiopia was one of the first bases of Christianity and Islam, Muhammad and his followers sought refuge there from persecution by his Qurayshi tribe and other tribes.




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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon

i think only some Egyptian Pharoah's were black

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then what were the other ones ?

light to dark skinned but in a arab/mediterranean/indian context

look. it depends what period ur talking from. look at usa 300 years ago there was no black or white people only red people. now look at it. egypt is 1000s of years old and many many different races have entered the country. its very mixed. clean cut terms like white and black cant really be used to describe their colour. just like brazil.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon

light to dark skinned but in a arab/mediterranean/indian context

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you do know that egypt is in africa right ?

what does egypt mean according to websters dictionary ?


the highest yellow nigga in america is still called "BLACK".

arabia was considered a part of africa and to many, still is - there is no such thing as the arab race -

the greeks and romans invaded many parts of africa and mixed their seed - this is why allot of so called easterners have a yellower hue and thinner hair than those who erected those statues -


what does ethiopia mean according to websters dictionary ?

i think some excellent points i didnt necessarily account for have been raised

but i dont think egyptians can be grouped with the same crop as Bantu or lower nilotic Africans.

like europe and asia there's a wide variety of tribes and one end of africa is different to the other

and im using race as a social construction but i think in terms of genetic and dna groupings ancient egyptians were different to genetics of sub saharan africans

of course theres is too much genetic variation between communities including of Sub saharan africans anyway.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon

and im using race as a social construction but i think in terms of genetic and dna groupings ancient egyptians were different to genetics of sub saharan africans

of course theres is too much genetic variation between communities including of Sub saharan africans anyway.

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and there is a reason why you think this is so -

i'm not saying that there are no differences, indeed there are, but you pointed out those differences for a reason - explore what your intentions were - and be fully honest with yourself - and if you want to share what you see, great -

i doubt that all of egypt was the same - just like the bronx and brooklyn are not the same - there are obvious differences in people who live in different projects in the same borough -

i have no intentions lol i just find this an interesting topic ??

i dont suscribe to the scientific racism of the 19/20th century that governs the theories that reject a 'Black Egypt' i just believe that pan african support of a black egypt is misguided.

i think the points made about the mixing of different cultures and ethnicities is very important when considering the topic though,


i think i need to research the topic alot more, my views are merely preliminary as i stated before.

also it depends a lot on what u consider 'black' is. theres different degrees and shades. eg people fom spain have a darker complexion than people from northern europe but i dont consider them black.

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Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang

look. it depends what period ur talking from. look at usa 300 years ago there was no black or white people only red people. now look at it. egypt is 1000s of years old and many many different races have entered the country. its very mixed. clean cut terms like white and black cant really be used to describe their colour. just like brazil.

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Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang

also it depends a lot on what u consider 'black' is. theres different degrees and shades. eg people fom spain have a darker complexion than people from northern europe but i dont consider them black.

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good points

but some are so quick to dismiss any of these things because they refuse to see "Black People" as self sufficient, great beings

When Herodotus, the world's first recognized historian described the Egyptians, they were described as having smooth black skin. Others from Ancient Greece who were philosophers who have traveled to Egypt to learn from them, confirmed this as well.

Also, check Hieroglyphs. There are drawings mainly of blacks. The sculptures of Pharaohs, if you look at their features, they are mostly that of blacks.

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Originally Posted by FMJ

When Herodotus, the world's first recognized historian described the Egyptians, they were described as having smooth black skin. Others from Ancient Greece who were philosophers who have traveled to Egypt to learn from them, confirmed this as well.

Also, check Hieroglyphs. There are drawings mainly of blacks. The sculptures of Pharaohs, if you look at their features, they are mostly that of blacks.

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but thats opinion cuz people used to call greeks and mediterranean people black 100 years ago but not anymore. 4 those philosophers they wouldve been very black but compared to sub sahara africans the egyptians would have fairer skin. u can see this in ancient egyptian herioglyphs. the egyptians drew their skin as more brown and other africans as charcoal black.

however i cant remember what period those herioglyphs were from so its possible that b4 then egyptians mightve been a lot blacker.

i think some hispanics have what id consider black features but lots of people wont say hispanics are black.

allot of the pictures have been defaced and white washed also