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not many people like to think or talk about, because they think it's too far-fetched to occur frequently. but Rwanda, the Holocaust and Stalin proved otherwise. talk about some genocides that you know of, and which do you think is the worst so far... Genghis Khan might get the honor for most ruthless genocide leader. he literally wiped out civilizations
the armenian genocide was fucked up. so was the native americans in north and south america
Ghengis Khan always asked for his opponents to surrender before he attacked, when they didnt he brutally wiped them out. he didnt have a particular hate for other races apart from the Chinese.
the so called Armenian genocide is bullshit in my mind. no nation in the world listens to the Turkish side of the story, no one weighs in what actually happened. nations jus listen to dickhead Armenians cause of their bitterness at the fact that they werent able to conquer Turkey.
Khan was hell-bent on dominating the world, and he probably came closer to achieving that than anybody else in history. not sure how much land he conquered by the time he died, but it was a lot. more than what Hitler occupied during WWII. though I'm not sure what he was planning to do if he had succeeded.
btw we studied the Assyrians in my western civilization class for a bit. those motherfuckers were crazy. according to the professor, they were the first army to come up with biological, chemical and even psychological warfare. they'd poison water supplies and shit. as for the "psychological warfare," it was basically them throwing paper to the enemy stating "surrender or die" lol
Ghengis Khan was bothered with conquering China, the world was never on his agenda until his invasion of Persia. After he wiped out Persia he turnt to southern China. his empire at the time of his death was twice the size of Rome, his sons and grandchildren took it further with the invasion of the middle east and eastern europe. Its said during the mongolian era 40million ppl died. which is a fucking lot considering the world population at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by theheavens
i heard lot of talking about that armenian genocide on tv mostly, how turkey should accept responsibility and face with what they did and such...Quote:
Originally Posted by HAN
I'm curious what is turkish side od the story?
The Turkish side is simple our empire was crumbling the Armenians spurred on and armed by Russia and France started attacking the Turks. because the Armenians were causing too much trouble in the east the Turks decided to send the Armenians on pretty much a death march to Syria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogah
Armenians call it Genocide, Turks say that both sides suffered casualties and remind everyone that the Armenians had actually started it all. There is no proof that the Ottomans planned to ethnically cleanse the Armenians. no concentration camps or shit like that. Turks dnt deny the death of Armenians, we say look a lot of shit happened but planting blame solely on us is ridiculous. Turkey says to the Armenians look lets sit down together go through our archives and see what happened, Armenian refuse to do so. they refuse to open their archives for historians to look through. you can go to Istanbul now and if you can read Ottoman you can look at every piece of Ottoman document that existed. We got nothing to hide but the Armenians obviously do.
Turkey will never ever accept it as genocide, the Armenian demands are beyond ridiculous. they start from $40billion in compensation, automatic Turkish citizenship for all Armenians and Turkey handing over Eastern Turkey to Armenia. never gonna happen.
Yea, I agree with Han.
do they have a number of native americans that were massacred?
u guys should check out the east timor massacre, 200k plus murderedin such a small place, indonesia backed by USA basically destroyed them
they weren't massacred. 90% of them succumbed to smallpox. It ravaged them and it was a result of the culture clash. Many of the Europeans got malaria, while the Natives were immune to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by theheavens
Had it not been for smallpox, Natives would have had more of a stake in things.
maybe not the majority, but I've read about many native americans being taken, tribe by tribe, and massacred on the spot. and the smallpox wasn't an accident
yes it was.
Im not saying that they didnt give them infected blankets, but the overall spread of smallpox would have occured anyway with any kind of contact.
Its not like europeans didnt succomb to smallpox either, it just wasnt as deadly for them.
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Originally Posted by theheavens
i can co sign this. allthough i can't say that Nicky's claims are false.
even my history book in junior high mentioned native americans being massacred, and that's the last text you'd expect to make a claim like that... as for the smallpox being an accident or not, I'm not ready to give white folks the benefit of the doubt on that one. so those motherfuckers knew