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^ this track is way too underrated even among hardcore Wu fans, to me it's up there with "Wu Renegades", "Death Be The Penalty", "Impossible" and "Soldiers Of Darkness", etc.
the ambient, dreamy quality that the electric piano/bass loop conjures up in combination with the drum programming and that yearning saxophone hook that just screams of the blues and a longing for a better life... man, this is one incredible track, that One Man album is crazy
anybody know about the whereabouts on One Man?
i remember that when you downloaded the original package of that release it came with some PDF files one which was a document that supposedly was a case file on the man behind the One Man moniker who was sentenced to 35 to life or something like that... but then i came to think that maybe that was just to play in with the theme of the album.. would be really interesting to know, the only thing i've heard is that he was one of the earliest cats 4th worked with, hailing from Steubenville and that some of these tracks dates back to 1994
Too hard to choose 5 top beats!
The first that i think are:
Illusions ( my favorite)
Scary hours
The rule
Element of surprise
5 stage of conciousness
Older gods
Pain
Game7
Serving justice
Burn bridges
Soldier of darkness
Science project / almost there
NEeds more "If its alright with you" from the Great white hype soundtrack. Probably go down as my favorite Wu related beat of all time.
He flipped the Star Wars imperial march sample better than anybody's ever done on an old Shogun Assassin joint I can't find on YouTube....
have it somewhere on mp3, will try to dig it up...
"wu renegades", "the night the earth cried", "illusions", "taļ Chi", "nasty immigrants"
Silencer you dont know lost in the masquerade??!!
One song i dont noticed cause of the poor quality
But its one of my favorite song of 4th and meth and i love lauryn hill on this!
This is the original beat of 4th (year 95 i think) he re use the beat for shoggun later
Other beats by 4th i like :
9th chamber
Washing blood (vinni paz)
Article (hell razah)
Cold
Generation next
Shaoling what
Glow
Inner g
....., too many song indeed
We rather should to do a list with 10 average and bad beats of 4th???
Beat i dont like is a long time ago ( u god) for example
4th Disciple is the greatest Wu producer after RZA, hands down.
I'd love to see a top 14 4th produced tracks in your opinion. Currently listening to your Back Chambers beats while at work. good shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
I'm a True Master guy, but it's close
For the shit of it I made this list of True Master produced tracks
True Master Produced tracks
04. "Brooklyn Zoo" (Co-produced with Ol' Dirty Bastard)
09. "Fish" (featuring Cappadonna and Raekwon)
04. Method Man and Ricky Watters - "It's In The Game"
07. The RZA - "Tragedy" (Produced by True Master and co-produced by RZA)
2-09. "The M.G.M."
2-13. "Heaterz" (featuring Cappadonna)
03. "Da Bomb"
08. "Pit of Snakes" (Produced by True Master and co-produced by RZA)
12. "Hidden Emotions" (featuring True Master)
01. "Slang Editorial"
05. "Supa Ninjaz" (featuring U-God and Method Man)
07. "Splish Splash"
09. "Milk the Cow" (featuring Method Man)
10. "South of the Border"
12. "Dart Throwing" (featuring Raekwon and Method Man)
02. "One Step" (featuring Tekitha)
05. "Cross My Heart" (featuring Inspectah Deck and GZA)
11. "If You Don't Know" (featuring Ol' Dirty Bastard)
04. "Flaming Swords"
11. "Collaboration '98" (featuring True Master and Method Man)
14. "For The Lust of Money/The Grandz"
17. "Next Up" (featuring Method Man)
18. "Intellectuals" (featuring Raekwon and U-God)
04. "Dangerous Grounds" (featuring Street Life)
06. "Sweet Love" (featuring Cappadonna and Street Life)
08. "Torture"
16. "Party Crasher"
17. "Grid Iron Rap" (featuring Street Life)
23. "Killin' Fields" (featuring Cho-Flo)
12. "All In Together Now"
08. "Longevity" (featuring U-God)
11. "Lovin' You" (featuring La the Darkman)
13. "R.E.C. Room"
02. "Turbulence"
04. "Dat's Gangsta"
03. Wu-Tang Clan - "What You In Fo'"
07. "Ya'll Been Warned"
05. "Fast Cars" (featuring Ghostface Killah)
15. "Silverbacks" (featuring Inspectah Deck and GZA)
3. "Alphabets"
9. "Paper Plates"
17. "Fat Lady Sings"
10. "Columbian Ties" (featuring True Master)
One Man - Evolution!!!
"When you close your eyes do you see?"
4th is too cold
Top Five 4th Disciple instrumentals and these beats no one can imitate
1-Five Arch Angels
2-Tongue Fu
3-Fair, Love & War
4-Feel It
5-Wu-Renegades
4th is a genius however:
RZA > True Master > 4th > Bronze > Cilva
Ringz>Brnze imo, props where they're due his sound hits it rightQuote:
Originally Posted by deeznutz1981
maybe the thread title was not the best, this thread is for the appreciation of One Man / 4th Disciple's "Black Sheep" joint, but you are of course free to discuss your favorite 4th productions on here as well
As The World Turns
BIBLE
Dress To Kill
Seems It Never Fails
Miracle
Do not forget Allah Mathematics, he produces some bangers as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by deeznutz1981
some of my favs, 4th for me is clearly the best producer after Rza.
az the world turns (la the darkman)
love (la the darkman)
street opera (killah priest)
Mind as a weapon (killah priest)
the city (wu-tang)
full moon (killarmy)
wu-renegades (killarmy)
wu-gambinos (co-production credit. Definitely hear 4th in that beat)
the push (killarmy)
feel it (first half, don't like direction the beat goes)
I still haven't heard 4th's whole catalogue. 'Da breaks' mixtape was phat tho the way he was cuttin some old classics. I think If It's Alright With You' with Golden Arms & Cappa is def in the top 5 imo.
Among many other beats, this is a favorite:
https://youtu.be/rp-iWfpJHAU
Swinging Swords
Blood For Blood
Take Ya Time
Tai Chi
Wisdom
Etc. And so on...........
wow forgot about that thanks for reminder.Quote:
Originally Posted by talassi
was going to include Tai chi but that beat isn't 4th but 'father lord'
kp=almost there
killarmy-sweatshops
killarmy =swinging swords
wutang clan-cash rules
9th prince-generation next
one man-game 7
Last i heard, he was on iron vacation but don't take my word for it, not too sureQuote:
Originally Posted by claaa7
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Is there somewhere I can find a list of every track 4th Disciple produced? Preferably with the year released/produced
https://www.discogs.com/artist/101746-4th-DiscipleQuote:
Originally Posted by Whips-n-Chains
Prob not completely up to date but this one is a good resource
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_Disciple
Thanks, I feel like they’re missing some stuff from the late 90s/early 2000s…or maybe sadly, I’ve just heard every worthwhile 4th beat alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by hiphopjunky
Im a true master guy BUT
4th had made some legendary tracks. And he has a production classic in SW4QW
shabazz the disciple - death be the penalty
killah priest - bible
wu tang - impossible
method man - sub crazy
gravediggaz - dangerous minds
as for true master imo?
Wu tang - heaters
Ol dirty bastard - brooklyn zoo
Killah priest - one step
Method man - dangerous ground
Cappadonna - slang editorial
To me, true master just has a recipe for bangers. Non stop. Beat after beat
mathamatics beats are uplofting for the most part. From his dj background hes trying to make the beats move the people.
4th to me crafts songs to the lyrics and makes beats for the lyrics. Showing more versatality as a producer. Like when wutangforever went more orchestral in nature and less samples, he sampled a symphony and made impossible a perfect fit. Same with that gravediggaz work or even method man judgement day. He changes styles per project/sound needed. Thats why rza needed all of them because rza was like true and 4th put tigether, every songs a custom banger. But considering wu released 30+ albums from wutang forevwr to ironflag, wu productions could easily handle albums witout rza at all.
I've always been a True Master guy - but been listening to a lot of 4th recently and feel like I've been sleeping a bit over the years.
4th is definitely one of the most versatile and talented producers in the Wu. Those old Sunz of Man tracks are some of the best stuff to ever come out of the wu camp. Also been re-listening to the One Man album recently... crazy