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Good thread.
He seems to have done okay for himself as a producer. They can't all become big shots.
From Wikipedia: "In 2017, Sneed was assaulted by Moe Szyslak, after the assault failed Moe ran away from the police, which then pursued him, he was besieged in his bar where he committed suicide to avoid capture."
^ He was co-producer on a few Dre beats too around 1994. He did 'Natural Born Killaz' among others.
Maybe Beans gets some credit, but he should get way more. He was easily one of the best rappers of the 00s.
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I think this isn't true. Moe Syzlak is a simpsons character and I can't find this on wikipedia.
Check the Death Row section of his wiki page.
Pretty Ugly was always dope to me. He used to be signed to Stretch Armstrong's Spit Incorporated, then signed to Eric Ric Riggler Rhea and Jonathan Shecky Green Schecter's Game recordings. Last I heard about him, he moved to Los Angeles and I have not heard about him since then. He was super dope.
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Haahaha
I was thinking the same thing? It even said he died in a bar. lol
lmao
LOL at sneed getting beat by moe. Wouldn't have caught that.
awwww. Pittsburgh's own Sam Sneed. When Rza lived in Pittsburgh & Steubenville, him and Sneed were cool. Rza gave Sneed 10g's when he fell on hard times after death row to buy a drum machine.
https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsbu...nt?oid=1637802
Sam Sneed was in Rae's Ice Cream video.
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Aint never noticed Sneed in the video. You just pulled some CJ shit congratulations.
Bahaha. I didn’t stumble upon it. It’s mentioned in the article in the link I posted.
He would have sounded good working with wu-tang. Given his catalog he was a hit machine in his time. The music industry has a weird way or prioritizing politics and sentiment over the bottom line. I don't know how the guy that made Natural Born Killaz, and Heads Ringing is 'on hard times' and getting bullied at Death Row. Really stupid shit.
It was kind of Dr. Dre's M.O. of fucking over producers who did most of the best work he got credited for.
Mel-Man, another Pittsburgh guy, produced half of Dre's 2001 and Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP. Dre uses these guys up, his ego steals the credit, and he spits them out.
it looks like the only work Sneed ever did with the Wu was a Killah Priest track from The Offering feat. Hell Razah.
^that's insane.
Yeah the further you dig the more you see that Dre hasn't produced shit since 1991.
Why are y’all surprised? Half of Wu tang’s catalogue was probably produced by the Wu elements?
Evidence - dude put out 3 brilliant albums and a very solid EP. He's slick with the word play and has only improved over the years. Also he's severely underrated as a producer. Recently Brother Al put out an album fully produced by Evidence which is a dope album.
Shitting On The World is the dopest song on Doctor Dre Presents The Aftermath besides East Coast, West Coast Killas, that should have been the third single.
Doctor Dre is from the Puff and Irv Gotti institution of producing where after everybody else is finished producing a track, you listen to it, approve it or disapprove it and get the credit. The only thing Dre does is the drum programming. Puff has said himself he does not know how to use a beat machine. Eminem learned directly from Dre and does the same thing, has a bunch of people produce something, listen to it when it is done, approve it or disapprove it and get the main credit when he really only did the drum programming
I don't think this is accurate. I was making a similar argument about Kanye recently - some producers are not just beatmakers (even if they sometimes do actually make beats), they are producers in the true sense of the word. They visualize a concept or a sound and work closely with other musicians to bring it to life. Maybe musical directors sounds more accurate, those kinds of producers actually lead their collaborators in the right direction.Quote:
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You can say Dre etc had a lot of help, and thats true but especially with Dre, he'd have Storch on keys and Elizondo on bass or guitar or whoever else, himself on the drums, then pick out the dope shit for a beat. Its not much different to what sample based producers do. You want to give Sam Sneed, Mel-Man etc the credit but those guys haven't done jack shit of note by themselves.
Puff is more of an album producer, he knows how to make a narrative, bring talented people in, how to balance a tracklist with big hit songs and darker tracks. Plus all those old bad boy beats that that jacked old 70s/80s hits were his idea, even if he got Stevie J to hook them up.
Its too simplistic to just say those guys come in and take the credit, especially when they all have a unique sound that none of their production collaborators are able to achieve on their own.
For real I never noticed either. All them garbage beats Cappa and other Wu Members rhymed over and they were around a dude like Sam and never got one beat from him...smh Sam Sneed produced most of K-Solo's 2nd Album Time's Up which really had a better sound than his debut.Quote:
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O.C. comes to mind.