Why all of sudden so some much interest in the Moon? Maybe they know something we don't? I'm a little shook.
https://www.esa.int/Science_Explorat...st_into_oxygen
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...ng-on-tuesday/
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Why all of sudden so some much interest in the Moon? Maybe they know something we don't? I'm a little shook.
https://www.esa.int/Science_Explorat...st_into_oxygen
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...ng-on-tuesday/
This is silly. Mars should be our focus.
I think they are working on that also.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrOnMaN
Here is an interesting article
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-b1765034.html
I think this is all cap. There's no feasible reason for humans to 'colonize' the moon or mars. If they find a resource on either, or the asteroid belt then they'll probably just have robots extract it but living on either will never surpass novelty because they're both worst case scenario versions of earth. There's nothing that can happen to the earth that will make it as shit as mars, so when I see people that can barely live in Nevada start talking about living on Mars I don't take it seriously. Futurism (trying to 'reach the future just cause you think it's 'the future') is goofy. Things naturally progress to where it makes sense and in order for something like that to happen it has to make sense, which it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by b-dolo
Ironman, I think the Moon is part of a long term plan to colonize Mars. NASA is planning to send a man and a woman to the moon in 2024, and get to Mars in the 2030s.
TSA that's a luddite attitude. Space travel has already brought about tons of innovations to us earth dwellers, and the potential for discovery (and *sigh* profit) is huge. It feels like the inevitable future of mankind is to leave the earth, at least some of us.
Yeah it would suck to live on Mars right now. It also sucks to have no imagination or foresight.
If there's a plan to teraform Mars, I'd like to hear/read about it. I would imagine that'll take decades if not centuries of human involvement. Also, the human Mars mission has been pushed back so many times due to lack of funds, studies, and sufficient transportation.
in order the reach mars, the moons function is paramount, there have been talks of a space elevator to the moon where resources and shuttles would be maintained and kept, that could cut costs of rocket fuel etc.
there is also a theory of slingshoting crafts through the alcubieere drive to their destination, the drive would orbit the moon and function like a wormhole of sorts, bending the space time distance and folding it in half. doing that from the moon makes it more feasible in terms of laws of physcis. Basically for the future of space travel, the moon is very important
^ I always thought the moon would be easier to adapt as it's in our habitable zone. You wouldn't need to or want to adapt the whole thing, but you could have domes with hotels, gardens, launchpads etc.
https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/...-the-moon#gref
personally I'm very much a space enthusiast although I will readily admit the space race was first and foremost an ego thing during the cold war and a massively expensive PR stunt on behalf of both blocks. you can still see the PR function in how various other nations have now entered the space race
As the article you posted states, the main priority would be to set up telescopes that could look deeper into space. I could see that as the next step taken before people inhabit the moon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hal Incandenza
Absolutely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaDynasty
I think whats holding experts back from going full force with the moon is the fact that is actually drifting away from earth daily, there is also the issue of the fact that most of the craters on the moon are from asteroids since it has no protective layer to quell the drastic force like we do. i'm not sure about this yet but there is also that issue of artificial gravity which is technology we do not have yet.
If you ask me though, i Think our greatest undertaking would be a dyson sphere. I think we should go that route, i also think if he actually started something of that magnitude and level, we would get contacted by our galactic neighborhood
^^props, you made me look up 'Dyson sphere'. it's not a good day if I haven't learned something new
I see Wikipedia says Olaf Stapledon first came up with this concept in his fiction. I like his novels but I have not yet read 'Star Maker', in which he introduces this concept. I should re-read 'Sirius' and 'Odd John', two novels of his I have at home. they're OG scifi, he's like one of the genre's forefathers
No prob bro.
astronomy/astro physics is my life , I’ve gone down down the ultimate rabbit hole when it comes to this topic. Great thread
Another interesting read on the existence of life beyond earth.
https://thedebrief.org/a-major-break...igins-of-life/
Google says that the moon is moving a few inches away per year. It's still gonna be there for thousands or millions of years (I'm not doing the math), just a bit further away. Most of the craters are from way way back when the solar system was more chaotic. I mean there would still be a bunch of potential disasters around every corner, but I think it's possible. I think it would be the easiest place to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
The idea of humans building something that looks like the death star gives me the creeps.
Apparently the moon will just end up having a really long stable orbit, It won't leave the earth unless an outside force acts on it.
Double post. This site is rickety.
The dyson sphere concept is innevitable.
may not be in our lifetime but humanity is gonna need alternate sources of energy, i also believe the only way we will reach other stars is harnessing power enough to power a star so Yes, its coming, we just wont be here to see it just like we won't be here to see how glorious our skies and habitable zone is gonna be 6000 years from now when the andromeda galaxy clashes with ours.
I wanted to major in astronomy but the college didn't offer it. Only physics. Yes, good thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
Grave, check out Netflix's Away. It's about a man mission to Mars. I've watched it twice already.
^^that show is the best show I've seen this year. thanks again Ironman
^ Really? I watched the first episode, and it just seemed too sentimental for me. Maybe that's just part of setting up the characters/story and it picks up after that?
well granted it's equal parts family drama and space discovery but these were really well balanced, I thought the plot did a great job of showing both the trouble that occur in space and on earth and how these influence each other. good all around acting too imo. I was genuinely hooked. there's some good revelations about the crew members as the show progresses, everybody gets their moment to shine so to speak. definitely top show of 2020 for me
to actually answer your question though, the other episodes are in the same vein as the first, so if you thought episode one was too sentimental for your liking I have to admit that doesn't change as the show progresses.
Yea i heard of the show but couldn’t get into it because I’m more interested in planetary landings and shows based on far star systems like alpha Centauri , for some reason, Mars really doesn’t interest me and like stated earlier , the drama aspect of it kills the space opera quality for me. It’s a decent joint tho.
I might try it anyway. I think it was just a few scenes I didn't like, the flashback scenes where her family were smiling and laughing like they were in a yoghurt commercial.
That show was already canceled.
Interstellar travel is the dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
You're joking, right? Unreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Collector
they're not bringing it back? there was so much in terms of plot they could have still done. this is really too badQuote:
Originally Posted by The Collector
I could see it being an expensive show though, but tbh probably a lot of them are and still get renewed
Now we are getting radio signals from nearest star system, interesting. Check link
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...xima-centauri/
Look at my location on my profile. i've always said it, im a hardcore believer that there's life in alpha centauri. i'm a proponent of humanity finding a way there. thanks for that article. made my morning
I think the research their doing now is probably the only contact we may see in our lifetime. Radio transmissions would be the first logically step in contacting another planet. But on the other hand I also think the rate are technology is advancing could provide us a way to reach the stars by other means.
Ghostly circles have astronomers puzzled? Link provides info, I have no theories what this could be.
https://singularityhub.com/2020/12/3...s-are-excited/
If we can make a spacecraft to reach 186,000 miles per hr (speed of light), then interstellar travel is possible. However, the speed of light is slow in space so traveling to Alpha C. will be quite a trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by b-dolo
Time travel? A physicist stated that we'll need the power of an exploding star to achieve time travel.
I'd say generations from now (thousands of years), we'll achieve this.
If time travel happens thousands of years from now, technically and temporally speaking we have already achieved it now - and in the past.
I don't follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hal Incandenza
If time travel is possible, then someone from the future is here now and also has been to the past. Is that what your getting at Hal? I think if time travel is beyond human comprehension at this point.
Yes, that's what I meant.
Pentagon has 6 months to release what is knows about UFOs.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...bout-ufos.html
^It's mostly military testing prototypes which freaks people out. All the documentaries about UFOs and abductions are comedy. It never happened.
Yeah, even if there was something of substance. They probably would figure out a different way to keep classified.