NASA helicopter set for historic first flight on Mars - footage on the way

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/spac...t-mars-rcna624

while the footage might not be spectacular (maximum flight height will be 16 feet) I CAN'T WAIT to see the short vids that'll come out of this when the flights go according to plan

this model is still frail looking (if it lands somewhat shakily it's over for the device) but just like with Mars rovers it's just the first working model that'll lead to better models. just think of all the footage we can expect between this and ten years from devices like this one

Flight postponed to Wedbesday due to weather conditions. They don't know how the device would react to too much wind and sand in the air.

We need to colonize other planets ASAP. The longer we stay here, the shittier and less natural this planet gets.

Aren't the winds on Mars really gentle?

^^thanks for bringing that to my attention

I had another look at why the first flight was postponed and I was wrong : it was a technical malfunction with the rotor. sorry for the confusion

I assumed it was the weather because I'd read an in depth article before saying they needed the okay for good weather conditions like no winds

because the device is so light (2 kg) there can be next to no wind. also the landing gear is so fragile it might break off easily when touch down is not smooth


more on Mars dust winds and storms : https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...an-dust-storms

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We need to colonize other planets ASAP. The longer we stay here, the shittier and less natural this planet gets.

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Which planet isn't a a shitty worst-case scenario sci-fi level dump verison of earth? The worst earth is an ideal Mars and Venus.

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Which planet isn't a a shitty worst-case scenario sci-fi level dump verison of earth? The worst earth is an ideal Mars and Venus.

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Every time this subject comes up, you miss the point. Nobody is talking about trying to recreate Earth on another planet any time soon. Although why would you want to stop people dreaming about things like that? Who knows what will be possible in the future.

The point is to expand human knowledge and adaptability, and maybe even learn and invent things that can reverse the destruction of this incredibly rare living planet.

Humans living in space or on scary planets just increases our understanding and adaptability.

Our way of living on this planet is completely unsustainable and requires us to develop and adapt very quickly. The worst case scenario isn't far off.

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Our way of living on this planet is completely unsustainable and requires us to develop and adapt very quickly. The worst case scenario isn't far off.

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7.67 billion people and growing by the day. It's China's time.

The earth will shake off humans like a bad cold- George Carlin

The “destruction” of the Earth is really a human centric view. The planet isn’t going to die and it was never intended to go on forever.

Saving humanity is pure human ego. Especially coming from a Contemporary person that will be dead within 40 or 50 years maybe less.

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The earth will shake off humans like a bad cold- George Carlin

The “destruction” of the Earth is really a human centric view. The planet isn’t going to die and it was never intended to go on forever.

Saving humanity is pure human ego. Especially coming from a Contemporary person that will be dead within 40 or 50 years maybe less.

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Which is it? Not going to die or not intended to go on forever?

The ecosystems and animals are certainly dying. It's not human centric to think that maybe we've already done enough damage in that area, and it might be nice to not rub every single other species in our shit.

If humanity means nothing to you, how about we all riot and party until theres nothing left? What's the difference.

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Originally Posted by Dooch

The earth will shake off humans like a bad cold- George Carlin

The “destruction” of the Earth is really a human centric view. The planet isn’t going to die and it was never intended to go on forever.

Saving humanity is pure human ego. Especially coming from a Contemporary person that will be dead within 40 or 50 years maybe less.

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I agree with this jaborni. If humans blow it on earth we should just die off. What are we going elsewhere to do? Shit and scroll the internet? What exactly would we be preserving in the big scheme of things?

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Originally Posted by ShaDynasty

Every time this subject comes up, you miss the point. Nobody is talking about trying to recreate Earth on another planet any time soon. Although why would you want to stop people dreaming about things like that? Who knows what will be possible in the future.

The point is to expand human knowledge and adaptability, and maybe even learn and invent things that can reverse the destruction of this incredibly rare living planet.

Humans living in space or on scary planets just increases our understanding and adaptability.

Our way of living on this planet is completely unsustainable and requires us to develop and adapt very quickly. The worst case scenario isn't far off.

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you get a planet with nearly infinite resources, perfect water, perfect weather, perfect conditions for your existence, ample space, ample things to see and do even without human input, a seemingly endless about of wildlife and food. You then fuck it off, and go where? lol.

I get going places to learn and adapt and improve our situation on earth but all of this mars shit is to flex dicks, and pretend to be futurey for the sake of futurey. It has nothing to do with surviving anything or improving shit. We've entered this space of fake futurism where we've all seen enough sci-fi movies to know what to do next and when I hear talk about colonizing other planets it's obvious it comes from some movie shit rather than any desire to solve a problem or address reality.

The future is determined by solving or creating problems in the present. Most of this mars 'colonize planets' bs isn't based on problem solving, it's just a dumb 'logical progression' that people think has to happen to 'be in the future'. It addresses no real problems and people using mars or the moon or venus or a dumb ass asteroid as potential 'homes' after the terminators take over aren't adding anything to the convo. This is just countries trying to flex, which is ok, but lets stop the fake futurism.

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Which is it? Not going to die or not intended to go on forever?

The ecosystems and animals are certainly dying. It's not human centric to think that maybe we've already done enough damage in that area, and it might be nice to not rub every single other species in our shit.

If humanity means nothing to you, how about we all riot and party until theres nothing left? What's the difference.

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My acceptance that all things eventually die isn’t “anti-human”.

Billions of years from now the sun will die. And before that the Earth will die and long before that human beings will have died off.

Animals are more equipped to handle a catastrophe than we are in this civilization evolved state. The power goes out for 12 hours in the winter and people freak out.


I think I’m being realistic. Why should we go kill another planet after we kill this one?

Perseverance has produced oxygen on Mars

https://www.voanews.com/science-heal...xygen-mars?amp

I guess I'm more of an optimist than you guys, but I also don't think I'm being totally unrealistic.

Our species can potentially learn to live with nature, or at least not interfere as much. We could solve psychological and social issues. Cure cancer, aging, dying. We could learn the mysteries of the universe.

The fact that these things haven't happened yet is not a reason to expect that they'll never happen. 500 years ago the scientific method didn't even exist, that's a drop in the bucket in the history of life on earth. Even with all the fucked up shit that happened during that time, we've accomplished a lot of cool things. Barring a catastrophe, it doesn't end in 2021, and will continue after our generation dies.

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you get a planet with nearly infinite resources, perfect water, perfect weather, perfect conditions for your existence, ample space, ample things to see and do even without human input, a seemingly endless about of wildlife and food. You then fuck it off, and go where? lol.

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The problem is there's nothing infinite or endless here at all. Us treating the Earth that way doesn't mean that that's how it actually is.

In the short term (this century), we just need to fix the way we use this planet, so that we can keep whatever's left of the natural world and keep it liveable. It would be cool if we got to see some progress with space travel too, and got some knowledge we can use.

In the long term, it's really inevitable that some humans, or whatever humans adapt into over the next few hundreds/thousands of years will leave Earth.

It's money time for humanity now on Earth but I see us pulling through in the nick of time. It just takes really high pressure for politicians, civilians and companies to make far reaching long term decisions. We are at that point now. I think 2021-2023 will be crucial years for decision making, in terms of (climate) goals for 2030, 2050 and 2060.

I'd be curious to know what you guys imagine happening to the earth that will make anywhere else a viable alternative. All of this 'run out of resources' is also ridiculous. As most ppl know the entire human population can fit in the state of texas with a dooch sized lawn for each person. Every resource has it's alternative and level of necessity with water being the only one necessary for living, and as far as mining etc we literally haven't scratched the surface of the earth. The furthest we've dug is 12km out of 40km of earth's crust, have barely touched the ocean etc. There a new form of synthetics every day for everything, and as we can see with developed countries population peaks then decreases.

Human won't live outside of earth. I think this idea of 'once we're done here' contributes to us not addressing actual issues here. Yes there's other planets your bodily functions literally depend in the specifics of the earth to function. You heart, lungs, nerves, brain and blood all depend on the specifics of earths size and proximity to the sun to function. Even if you find another earth, if it's not 93 million miles away from a sun of equal size and gas composition to ours. Whatever we can to do even terraform mars or the moon would be used to terraform Antarctica, Siberia, the amazon, and the sahara desert where it isn't - 300 degrees, your heart can beat, and the air is poisonous to the skin and to touch. I think all of this under estimates all of the factors that go into making our lives possible.

People can barely living in Arizona and we're talking about 'leaving the earth' once 'it gets bad'. 'Gets bad' is us dying, not use getting fed up. it's fun to think about but it has no meaning. Go to Mars and do what? Why not just die at that point?

I agree the focus should remain on earth and protecting it but space programs should continue because of

knowledge of how the cosmos came to be

technological and digital inventions developed as part of space programs that will turn out to be a major help on earth in different (or sameish) applications

possible new insights into physics

who knows, mining in space

if really fast space travel becomes a thing, in the distant future I can see an earth #2 scenario happening. In our own solar system I think only small bases on other planets (Mars, moons) are feasible, as launching pads for longer space jouneys

btw, totally unrelated, but 'Earth 2' is a great (emo) movie -it's not really about anything mentioned in this thread though

I agree, i think the potential for finding metals with capacities beyond what can be found on earth, in space, is infinite and exploration will only making us better off on earth. small mechanized stations are feasible and launch sites/programs from mars can even help us go further away from the sun than ones from earth. Even if it's a refueling or recalibration station. It would be insane to see the the inside of jupiter and saturn in my life time

I can see going to other planets for resources. You can send machines to do that.

But thinking we can live on another planet is a pure fantasy in my opinion.

You would have to somehow tug a planet into our orbit, somehow establish a water source and atmosphere and the proper magnetic field and air pressure and gravity.

Good luck. We still haven’t even scratched the surface on what we know of the universe. Hawking or Kakou said we are ankle deep in the ocean of the universe.

Unless they somehow learn how to distort space time, light speed is not possible.

Maybe one day when we are a worldof austistic organic robots we can figure it out.

I got to be honest I’ll be glad my apeman ass will be dead and gone.

Everything about life is so easy right now even compared to 20-30 years ago.

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People can barely living in Arizona and we're talking about 'leaving the earth' once 'it gets bad'. 'Gets bad' is us dying, not use getting fed up. it's fun to think about but it has no meaning. Go to Mars and do what? Why not just die at that point?

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Scientific exploration. I support it. I obviously agree that we have a perfect planet. Happy Belated Earth Day! When just need to get rid of the people who're ruining this planet.

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I agree, i think the potential for finding metals with capacities beyond what can be found on earth, in space, is infinite and exploration will only making us better off on earth. small mechanized stations are feasible and launch sites/programs from mars can even help us go further away from the sun than ones from earth. Even if it's a refueling or recalibration station. It would be insane to see the the inside of jupiter and saturn in my life time

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The aim for most is to eventually land and mine an asteroid passing by. That's where most of the precious minerals and metals can be found. Some are even solid rocks of diamond that fly by in our solar system. I believe Japan's space programme has that aim, to land and take off from an Asteroid.

In terms of planetory exploration Saturn's moon Titan which has water would probably be the most interesting place to explore.

we aint never been to mars....them "images" look like the arizona desert in summer


i dont think the so-called "moon landing" took place....it was just phony space race propaganda anyways