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nod yo head like Ja Rule bruvaz haha
Never understood why everybody was foaming over this guy
it's his hair
Gotta watch this later. I like Fantano.
Ghost said he dont give a fuck about OUATIS and called it trash lmao...
Any mention on SC II?
There’s no way ANY of Ghost’s solo albums are better than Shaolin. I haven’t heard the album and Ghost is my favorite Wu member, but I’m 100% convinced this is the caseQuote:
Originally Posted by hotnikks
https://youtu.be/qKicRlFQ5fc?t=445
@ 7.25. Just sayin'...
https://youtu.be/GrFoZXvL3ew?t=319
And sayin' again... @ 5.19
fantano's great. if only wutang knew that 99% of the people with major hiphop platforms are huge wu stans
He said it's been finished, he got shit on there from 12 years ago. But he didn't say anything about releasing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by corky831
As much as I have always hated the one copy idea, I do crack up every time Ringz busts out the evidence on Wu being hypocritical about the album. Peace
He also mentiosn he's been doing it for a while, but now just sort of took a step back. He knows he's good at doing part 2's. And people will see when it drops. Indeed no date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Ghost really sounds just focused on the money in the Fantano interview compared to this interview where he looks at it from a broader perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Read an interview with RZA the other day where he stated about 8 Diagrams '. . . was me playing guitar at novice level - you'll hear me playing stuff that I sample because I was fascinated by the sound. It wasn't the hip-hop that I was known for, so the people that were looking for that didn't get what they expected, but for me it was still extremely satisfying.'
And Supreme Clientele 2: (presents) Blue & Cream the walla era coming soon, hahaha
whatchamacallit
Only when it's blatant ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by josborne3680
How do the interviews you posted refute what Ghost said here? In those other interviews he was 1) promo'ing the album and 2) briefly talking about how the beats sound like older wu stuff.
In this interview he admits that the album wasn't originally a wu-tang project (which anyone who was here during the genesis of it already knows) and intimates that he's irritated by the whole fucking thing.
I think the way he talked about doing the verses as a favour and for less than he normally would, is pretty disingenuous, but that's just conjecture on my part. It wouldn't be the first time wu members have decided that a monetary arrangement they agreed to was unfair, after the fact.
It was interesting near the end when he was talking about the Wu-Nas tour. He stopped himself revealing a detail. Wonder if there will be a twist to the show.
Also good idea from Ghost that GZA and Nas should collab. Seems like they would compliment each other on that thoughtful, lyrical stuff.
As far as Ringz album, hes probably just sick of getting asked about it.
How can you be 100% convinced of anything when you haven't heard it? I doubt even Ringz would claim this, and he could claim anything about the album.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenchild
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Originally Posted by rainbow
It refutes Ghost saying he didn't know about the album, the creditation it got and the quality of the music. In one interview it sounded like 36 Chambers, in the other one it's decent and real nice, but in two other ones it's trash.
In one interview he's asked about it as a Wu-Tang Clan album and he confirms it, and I'm his boy and the concept is brilliant... and in another I'm some shiesty dude and it's not a Wu-Tang album and this and that.
Two complete opposite opinions on the same exact album. That's all.
Maybe not 100% but from everything I’ve read and knowing Cilva’s ear for beats, I wouldn’t be surprised if this album turns out better than most Wu albums. I’d bet money it’s only inferior to 36 Chambers, Cuban Linx, Liquid Swords, and maybe Wu-Tang Forever. It has to be better than Tical, Return to the 36, Ironman, Clientele, Cuban Linx 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaDynasty
Is it hard to read the forum from inside Cilvaringz ass?
I know a lot of people are bitter about the way things turned out with the album, even I think Cilva went too far and became obsessed with legacy, but this album is probably dope as hell. We all saw the beat sessions video he made way back when and every beat was better than anything I've heard from the Wu in over 20 years
I base my opinion on the instrumental albums Cilvaringz officially released over the years. I like them, some beats have a cinematic quality to them
I cannot say anything about OUATIS as an album in terms of musical quality but if rappers brought their A game and Cilvaringz came up with beats like the ones on his instrumental releases, OUATIS would be an album I'd enjoy listening to. Really that's the only assessment I can make with limited input.
The best beat I’ve heard from Cilva is that Allahu Akbar beat from one of his instrumental albums. How the hell did THAT not get included on the Shaolin album? MCs would kill for a beat like that. And that Barabbas track with Killah Priest sounds promising but the verse is cut short
Better than Ironman? lol never gonna happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldenchild
Well I appreciate the comparison but no, I would never put my work against anything made up until '97-'98 including Heavy Mental, Silent Weapons & Clientele. That whole streak is untouchable.
OUATIS is however very good if I may say so myself. Nothing like any of the work you've heard of me I'd say.
That would deserve a handshake if this was face to face^. Peace
if this album isn't better than Heavy Mental, The Pillage, or Killarmy shit at the bare minimum, we've got a problem
I think cilva is enough of a wu head to bring something to the table despite me bustin his balls on here.
as for fantano interview. Dude is a novice. “Howd ya work with kendrick and the millionith time i asked about doom” vs ya talking to the guy who basically is right there with nas and jay as the next best mc all times. You ask about kenny n doom. Not cuban linx. Not odb. Not supreme. Nice bro.
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Originally Posted by ForensikZ
He did ask about SC2 though
Fantano's channel is generally talking about new music, he doesn't often talk about old stuff except stuff like classics week.
I wonder how fun it actually is to always be asked for a ODB story. Couple of years ago, a peak was reached with the stories. People was constantly asking for it, trying to be entertained by Dirty after his death. A bit dark though if you look at it from this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForensikZ
Yeah all set with old questions at this point. We all know the backstory plus do you think these guys remember it accurately anyway. Peace
You can't compare Heavy mental and Silent Weapons to anything. They really stand on their own. They were isolated records that held their own in their time and these times. Non comparable in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenchild
Yes this is true. Everything that dropped until 98 (The Pillage) was so unique. That sound could never be replicated today, even The Rza couldn´t do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
I was somewhat happy that he said he finished recording for the DOOMSTARKS album, but kinda messed up knowing DOOM probably didnt finished it.
I hope Ghost drops SC2 soon.
Also, i wanna hear the complete joint with Silk Sonic
Hes on a roll with the collab albums. I always thought a collab project with him and Camp Lo would work gangbusters.
Hmm, that's a fair point... i guess i interpret this interview as him being honest about the album, but really, as you pointed out he'll just say whatever suits him at the time. i don't think that really validates that he was ever genuinely enthused about it, more that you everything he says about it can be taken with a grain of salt. wu members contradicting themselves isn't exactly unusual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
The part about him not knowing what the album was going to be still holds though - isn't it the case that when many of the verses were recorded the concept of the album being one copy wasn't a thing?
When you last spoke to Ghost Cilvaringz?
he should get his verses back and lay them on new beats. no point in wasting perfectly good versesQuote:
Originally Posted by MakCorleone