GAZA

no gaza thread?

anyhow Dj khaled aint using his platform and he is palestinian - limited his comments besause his own people are vex at his silence.

Compare to Belly Palestinian raised in my area Ottawa.

https://www.instagram.com/djkhaled

https://www.instagram.com/belly

Now im going down the list of generals in Wu

Rza Silent

Meth Silent.... PLO Style

Raekwon Silent

Ghost Silent

Deck silent

GZA Silent...

KP....Silent

Ugod Silent

Masta Killa Silent

Capadonna Silent

All these yrs spitting in the face of this beast now when its time to seriously say fuck their money and rise up you go silent?

https://youtu.be/sinkXIfcoDI
https://youtu.be/yUKSstHLrDM

I know Khaled is scared he’ll lose money or whatever but this is a crazy bitch move. I’m embarrassed for him. The dude is worth millions, you’ll still be rich no matter what

Its a touchy subject. I understand the silence but its too bad. That BDS shit...

Pretty hard to imagine who would possible be waiting for The Masta Killa's statement on Palestine, or its effect.

U-god glossed over it during his interview with Talib. In any case I was also surprised by the lack of any outspoken support by them. Wanted to create a similar topic about it. You'd think they use their platform to support people in need during a genocide. But it seems they have other problems. As years go by, it seems worldy issues are not really their forte.

I noticed a post about Khaled, did not know he was Palestinian. This puts it in perspective, and frankly pretty disgusting. I recently watched the Ken Burns documentary about the Holocaust & the U.S. This genocide and the way the countries and people reacted has way too many similarities. It seems Never Again, unless we are the ones systematically killing men, women and children. Loads of children.

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Its a touchy subject. I understand the silence but its too bad. That BDS shit...

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Actually, what is so touchy about rejecting the indiscriminate mass killing of children inside an open prison, or the continued bombing of hospitals, or the usage of white phosphorous? Speaking out is basic humanity. If you think it is complex, do the knowledge. There is so many stories out there that you can read up on. Also, Israel is an advanced military nuclear power. Gaza is a strip the size of Manhattan that is being used as a prison. Or better yet, it is a Palestinian Ghetto. Like the Warshaw Ghettoes before it.

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Actually, what is so touchy about rejecting the indiscriminate mass killing of children inside an open prison, or the continued bombing of hospitals, or the usage of white phosphorous? Speaking out is basic humanity. If you think it is complex, do the knowledge. There is so many stories out there that you can read up on. Also, Israel is an advanced military nuclear power. Gaza is a strip the size of Manhattan that is being used as a prison. Or better yet, it is a Palestinian Ghetto. Like the Warshaw Ghettoes before it.

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I wasent taking away from the things you typed but, its a touchy subject for those that love money over what is right is what Im saying. We have a choice on who to support now seeing who is real and who is bought by zionist money. If one thing this event has done is it lifted a huge veil.

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Pretty hard to imagine who would possible be waiting for The Masta Killa's statement on Palestine, or its effect.

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*Pretty hard to imagine who would possibly be waiting for The Masta Killa's statement on Palestine, or its effect.

idk why i type like a maniac on this site. Might be the color scheme.

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I wasent taking away from the things you typed but, its a touchy subject for those that love money over what is right is what Im saying. We have a choice on who to support now seeing who is real and who is bought by zionist money. If one thing this event has done is it lifted a huge veil.

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True. Interesting the way you put it though, 'those that love money'. Because I think you could still make money, with taken a stance. Not taking a stance, is lifting that veil as you said, but in my opinion, it also shows you do not really care about anything you were spitting. The Wu was heavily donned out with keffiyehs in the beginning. All that now just looks like cultural appropriation.

As far as I have seen, Steve Rifkind has showed his support for Israel in the early days on IG. This could of course play a part, due to him being a jew. (According to the her book, Eva Ries the European Wu-Tang Manager, Rifkind once made the joke 'Who would have though t that. A Jew and a Nazi sitting at the same table.' Pretty ironic since Germany has proclaimed unwaivering support of anything that Israel does. This is due to, of course, WWII guilt, and a badly defined line about reason of state of Israel in the German law.) I'm just guessing here, but it could be that their friendship with Rifkind is playing a huge role in them not taking a stance. Either due to solidarity, or due to not doing the knowledge about the situation. Something I understood could play a part since this was not really coffeetable talk in the US for the last 25 years. More so here in Europe.

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*Pretty hard to imagine who would possibly be waiting for The Masta Killa's statement on Palestine, or its effect.

idk why i type like a maniac on this site. Might be the color scheme.

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Has MK ever said anything about politics? A part from doing a PETA ad.

Alone, a statement would probably not make any ripples. Yet if one comes forward, more can come forward, right?

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Has MK ever said anything about politics? A part from doing a PETA ad.

Alone, a statement would probably not make any ripples. Yet if one comes forward, more can come forward, right?

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yeah, guess so. I just thought it was random to expect something from wutang and just used a random member to highlight how random it is.

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yeah, guess so. I just thought it was random to expect something from wutang and just used a random member to highlight how random it is.

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Is it though? I am asking, because the more I think of it, the less they seem really political. There is a lot in their lyrics and you have all the building. But I get the sense they never really reached the point of being informed about global politics.

Based upon where RZA is in his career, doing hollywood stuff, I do not expect him to have any opinion in public. GZA, as a scientist, the same. Though I can see him starting a conversation on his Instagram. Which he has not done for some time with his boomer content. Meth is in the same lane a RZA right now. Ghost and Rae, well yeah. The only thing I could say, is that you would expect it out of their religion to show support to the mass killing of people. Hmmm. U-God might actually get some tracking if he were to speak out on it or lead a conversation. More so than with his NFTs.

BY the way, today is the ICJ case against Israel by South Africa is being presented: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveb...-over-gaza-war

The former apartheid state knows what an apartheidregime looks like, and what a genocide is.

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BY the way, today is the ICJ case against Israel by South Africa is being presented: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveb...-over-gaza-war

The former apartheid state knows what an apartheidregime looks like, and what a genocide is.

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Disgusting. South Africa has something to say? They are hypocrites.

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Is it though? I am asking, because the more I think of it, the less they seem really political. There is a lot in their lyrics and you have all the building. But I get the sense they never really reached the point of being informed about global politics.

Based upon where RZA is in his career, doing hollywood stuff, I do not expect him to have any opinion in public. GZA, as a scientist, the same. Though I can see him starting a conversation on his Instagram. Which he has not done for some time with his boomer content. Meth is in the same lane a RZA right now. Ghost and Rae, well yeah. The only thing I could say, is that you would expect it out of their religion to show support to the mass killing of people. Hmmm. U-God might actually get some tracking if he were to speak out on it or lead a conversation. More so than with his NFTs.

BY the way, today is the ICJ case against Israel by South Africa is being presented: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveb...-over-gaza-war

The former apartheid state knows what an apartheidregime looks like, and what a genocide is.

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They're not really big celebrites here. So their statements won't have an impact other than make zionists here in the US not want to work with them. Ugod say something would barely make the news. Rza and Method Man maybe, but if you know how hollywood is structured here, it's the end of their careers. No other member can make a statement that would be carried by the news. Immortal Technique has been speaking up, but you have to go into the dark web to find it lol. So all they could do is jeopardize their careers while have 0 impact or traction as far as the statement it's self.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaiIRMMkOZQ

This is getting terrible. Good news is that food just airdropped in. The local gangs were monetizing food. Probably members of Hamas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zymQkDlMbi4&pp=ygUOZWxheWFubmEgb2xpdmU %3D

Came across a video on IG where somebody was claiming that Meth was supporting the Palestinian cause. By poinitng to PLO Style, and an interview from 2015. Nothing since Israel started mass murdering the people of Gaza on a scope not seen since WWII.

I've seen that Meth interview. He was just explaining to some Chinese rapper who didn't know PLO Style came from the Palestinians in Meth's neighborhood. He said some Wu members related to the Palestinians fighting back.

Meth is probably pro-Palestine but isn't going to say it publicly because he's got big corporate deals and a Hollywood career. I'd like to see some of the Wu talk about it because its directly related to stuff they rapped about on "Impossible" but you know it would get them blackballed. ODB would be talking about this for sure RIP.

Wu Tang is for the children... unless they're killed by Jews

I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly will change in the world if they say something publicly verses they don't. Or how it makes them any more or less moral of a person in their individual lives

yall sound like the people who shamed their friends for not putting up a black banner on FB to support George Floyd

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I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly will change in the world if they say something publicly verses they don't. Or how it makes them any more or less moral of a person in their individual lives

yall sound like the people who shamed their friends for not putting up a black banner on FB to support George Floyd

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1 The vast majority of young people support Palestine publicly. These old washed niggas keep talking about how they want to comeback and that they're still standing for their same old morals. It would be a good look if you choose to side with the rest of the world instead of being quiet about genocide like a bunch of paid-off slaves and rich whites.
2 It makes you look hypocritical, fake and sold out if you make a career being a rebel and pro-black and "the 5%" but you aren't leading your people or educating them or speaking out for popular causes. Stop acting like they're doing it because they're busy or uninformed. They're about a check now, not raising black people out fo the ghetto. Because the same people who put niggas in the hood are the same ones who put Arabs in their own ghettos.

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These old washed niggas keep talking about how they want to comeback and that they're still standing for their same old morals.

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can you show me where this was said?

so you boiled it down to 'it would be a good look' - thats exactly what I thought. Whether they say something or not, it will save zero more people, but at least YOU can sleep better at night knowing you enforced your own judgment on these grown men.

They made a career out of making amazing music. I don't recall them being the face of every popular cause at any point in their career. They were more about self knowledge than specific causes - which is the root of fixing most anything.

I'd argue that their existing catalog has - and continues to - help self-educate more people around the world than any musical entity ever - BY FAR. Where is your condemnation of every single musical artist that isn't Wu-Tang? You're more concerned about 60yr old artists that the youth doesn't follow and who MORE than did their part - and you want them to now spend their grand-parenting years being justice warriors to people who don't listen to them, instead of holding popular artists accountable. Or even yourself - why haven't you worked as hard as Wu-Tang to have a platform for this shit instead of judging another man for what you won't even attempt in the first place?

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They're about a check now, not raising black people out fo the ghetto.

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it took you 30 years to figure this out when they've been saying this from the jump. Welcome to reality

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Stop acting like they're doing it because they're busy or uninformed.

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I don't actually think they fall into those categories but at the same time I don't put that past anybody at all

Even myself, I have a surface level understanding of the whole situation. There's a general understanding and acknowledgement of a genocide, but I deliberately don't care enough to spend any more time knowing more than that. It does me zero good

I could spend the next 300 days studying every in and out and being stressed about it, then I could spend the other next 300 days after that finding every other genocidal and inhumane situation on earth that doesn't happen in my communities, and I know there will be hundreds
Or I could spend that time uplifting and putting the people in my direct orbit in better positions for themselves with the understanding that there will be enough people like you to provide enough lip service anyway

Some people choose to not care about such things as much as you don't care about using slave manufactured products

Bro, you're making shitty excuses. "They've made great music. They're 60. It won't make any impact."

Thousands of people are turning on celebrities who've been silent about this GENOCIDE> Because it shows they put money and Jewish favor over principles. It makes all they put out to the public look questionable, including their past work.

Yes, it will affect the Wu's legacy when future fans hear them talk all about the Illuminati and Judgment Day and being the 5% against the evil 10%, but then each one of them was quiet during a ionistfucking genocide on Muslims, funded by our government. And the same goes for all these fake revolutionary artists like Public Enemy or whoever. Its all talk. They're about money and their own family, not the fans.

But fuck music and pleasing fans. ANYBODY who is silent about children starving and being bombed by America's "#1 ally" is a coward. Speaking up about it raising awareness and not normalizing being silent and ruled by Zionists. The shit should be obvious.

RZA put Cilvaringz and Remedy on a song together to talk about Palestine/Israel. He does not have a "surface level understanding". Cappadonna has talked about Obama supporting the Antichrist by assassinating 3 Muslim leaders as president. They've put references to Palestine and the PLO in their music from the beginning. They 100% know whats going on.

IMO, you know it would hurt their careers in the short-term and support them saying nothing for that reason alone. Even if it does, they should still do whats right instead of conforming to what most celebrities are doing and just about all rappers are doing. Because its about doing whats right, period. Plus, it will make them look good to fans. There's no excuse why they're being punks right now except they don't really live the message of their early music anymore because they fear Jews hurting them financially. And it proves they've been censoring themselves and watering themselves down for an even longer time.

And you can't be serious acting like you haven't seen a Wu member complaining about the state the group is in. From the management to the quality of albums to RZA's leadership to how little communication there is. They talk about wanting to make comebacks but they do weak shit like this and go along with the mainstream rap community. They can only blame themselves.

Fact is all big international musical artists are being questioned inside their fanbase for being silent right now. Especially by younger fans. The ones who aren't speaking are just tarnishing their legacy. Its extra sad because Wu Tang are about the ONLY ones who have talked about the issue before and act like hard rebels who fight the power and racism. They're washed up and it has nothing to do with being 60. The fact they are never ever going to be as popular again is why they shouldn't put a bag over over morals. And should be educating their ignorant fans who don't know the situation like they do.

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And you can't be serious acting like you haven't seen a Wu member complaining about the state the group is in. From the management to the quality of albums to RZA's leadership to how little communication there is. They talk about wanting to make comebacks but they do weak shit like this and go along with the mainstream rap community. They can only blame themselves.
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This sounds like I'm watching 10 year old documentaries all over again. I haven't heard any of this in a decade. Please show me where. The Wu are finished with new music, a new album wouldn't benefit them in any way, they have Vegas residency money to collect until the wheels fall off

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Yes, it will affect the Wu's legacy

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at least put an asterisk on this and admit it only affects their legacy TO YOU personally and to literally nobody else. You don't speak on behalf of Wu's fanbase at all.

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ANYBODY who is silent about children starving and being bombed by America's "#1 ally" is a coward

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how about anybody who isn't changing voting patterns and not personally performing some kind of action to uplift their direct communities are cowards?
I can't stand this generation who thinks typing on the internet is brave. Grow the fuck up.

You're telling me up until now I'm a coward, but if I repost your comments on my social media then go back to jerking off, I'm some kind of pillar of goodness for the world. This is your argument huh.

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Speaking up about it raising awareness and not normalizing being silent and ruled by Zionists. The shit should be obvious.

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this might be grim, but I think this is the actual reality of the west right now.....

western culture is so lost that I truly believe it's more productive to focus on your immediate surroundings and anything else is a waste of energy and resource.

Covid proved in real time that there is no amount of awareness that will stop the 85% from metaphorically cannibalizing their neighbors, poisoning their own body and willingly be a slave. The average american will ADMIT their own government made them inject unknown foreign substances into their body and still not care enough to do anything about it. You really think the same group of people will take up arms for shit that isn't affecting their life personally and in real time?

As long as the media companies are the media companies, you aren't normalizing anything they don't want you to

Is it more moral to speak about injustice to people that you know do not care even if they agree with you, at the expense of your grandchildren having less, than it is using that time/ resource to better your family? I know what I would do

Yeah, you're a lowlife. 30,000 innocent people killed. More dead from injuries and starvation. And you think the real tragedy is selfish idiots online being called out for saying nothing about it. Poor middle-aged stoners. Idiots like this think its a political issue. You don't have to know anything about the countries or the issues. Genocide is fucking genocide. And the only reason hundreds of celebs and dumb asses like you are quiet about it is because you either think Muslims deserve it or because you're afraid of Jews punishing you financially. Each Wu Tang member is in the 2nd camp. Period.

And fuck yeah young people who isn't lazy, stupid TV-educated apathetic Gen X slacker dipshits will care who stayed silent. Its this generation's Vietnam. Dickriding celebs this hard for being sell-outs is pathetic but if it matches your own views on Gaza, its not surprising. Peace. Free Palestine.

NIgga really said Wu Tang who've been beefing for the last decade aren't washed up because they have a Las Vegas regency. TYpical dumb nigga logic that its all about money and looking out for your own. This fan base hasn't changed at all. Thats why Wu Tang won't get bigger audiences every generation like 2Pac and other artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCc4yl5otw4

Ouch. I heard about this. Hopefully, this has been resolved already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u88qcsHNQHY&pp=ygUMYmVsbHkgcmFwcGVy