Weight lifting

If i remember correctly, there was a thread in here called health and fitness where q's were asked regarding diets and training and also people traded tips for work outs etc. anyway, this isn't entirely like that, i just want some advice regarding increasing muscle size.

At the moment i dont have much time to go gym and havent invested much money in my home equipment incase i cant really achieve my goals and so would have to return to the gym. back when i was boxing i was doing so much shit i wasnt too sure what was exactly responsible from my muscules getting bigger. And so what im asking is, is it possible to gain muscle increase and definition at home using freewieghts?

All im using at the moment are 20kg dumbell and 30kg on the bench (aint that much buts its all i got 2 work wid)

My aim is to get those crazy danny williams shoulders and to define my arms and chest so by all means thow whatever tips u have my way. much appriciated


Peace

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Originally Posted by Palehorse

definition and increasing muscle mass are 2 different things

definition u want to do more sets with higher repetition

muscle mass u want to power lift heavy weights with fewer sets and reps

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exactly!

and u gotta watch your diet
dont be eating mc donalds and shiet like that
food is another element where u have to invest $$ in too

peace

Pick up a few muscle magazines, they always have some good articles on different exercises....

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Originally Posted by Palehorse

definition and increasing muscle mass are 2 different things

definition u want to do more sets with higher repetition

muscle mass u want to power lift heavy weights with fewer sets and reps

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Yeah kool, i know this but is it really worth going to the gym for or can i do this at home?

I feel like to get help and to stay motivated a gym is your best bet. I go to the gym daily. At the gym there are always people to give good advice and to spot you. At home you usually get sidetracked and do everything that you should.

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Originally Posted by Masta-Mind

Yeah kool, i know this but is it really worth going to the gym for or can i do this at home?

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You should deffinatly make the effort to go to the gym, there is only so much you can do with limited equipment, also I would advise getting a training partner if you can, it makes alot of difference. I hit the weights three times a week with a partner and it makes all the difference, in five weeks I've made massive leaps in strength and I've been training solo for a few years now.

Also if you are gonna use your stuff at home and you say your maximum bar weight is 30kg and 20kg dumb bell, I would suggest increasing your reps (between 12 to 15, assuming you do about 10) and doing five sets, this should help abit, but it's no substitute for the gym.

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Originally Posted by TAURO DA GRIM LATIN

You should deffinatly make the effort to go to the gym, there is only so much you can do with limited equipment, also I would advise getting a training partner if you can, it makes alot of difference. I hit the weights three times a week with a partner and it makes all the difference, in five weeks I've made massive leaps in strength and I've been training solo for a few years now.

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Aight man thanks. Yeh i got many ppl i could train wid, i actualy have a training partner, its just wid my new job i could only make it 2 da gym at the week ends. But you think its worth getting a good beanch for the house? i used 2 go crazy in the gym before but my rutine got screwed when i lost the disapline anyway its kinda like im starting over again now

theres nothing wrong with training at home
its just u get sidetracked
but if its convinient for you then just do it

i go to the gym in the afternoon
its tuff coz i have alot of dj gigs
plus the rooms in japan are pretty small
if i had a weight set it would take up all the space in my room

good luck

if the weights at home aint challenging you you have to get to
a gym, only thing thats gonna make your muscles grow is to
challenge them, if the shit feels light(i imagine 30 kilo bench feels
pretty light) your muscles aint gonna grow, id recommend getting
to the gym asap

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Originally Posted by Palehorse

definition u want to do more sets with higher repetition

muscle mass u want to power lift heavy weights with fewer sets and reps

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Shite.

fuck a gym
i stay in shape by doing weights, push ups, sit ups, and running or bicycle riding
i aint exactly ripped but since i quit smoking ive been doing this shit more and more

you just named all the shit in a gym fuckstick

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Originally Posted by stak84

you just named all the shit in a gym fuckstick

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are you a total idiot?
im sayin you dont need to cash out $50 a month to stay healthy

I don't like gyms personally, too many posers for my liking. I need to get a curl and Z-bar though, I like to keep myself toned, i play football for the stamina normally, but since i my ankle got snapped I don't really play anymore, so to compensate I just go on the bike and rowing machine

anyone have an opinion on the bowflex? it looks interesting but TV lies a lot.

and fuck i haven't worked out in over a week, i'm getting that summertime laziness setting in.

i lift weights at home and a gym would definately be bigger motivation, but it's damn convenient here as for now i have everything i need, i can do a full training program. i just need better mental focus and maybe some protein shakes, i messed with that for like a month and saw some improvement but then stopped, and decreased in size a bit, mainly on my forearms. i'm an ectomorph for all you physically knowledgable people so i've been trying to get more calories in me, and protein shakes are even more beneficial for me i hear.

the shit about all the health food like protein shakes is it costs so damn much.

yall fuckers want to know how to weightlift?

aight, two ways to do that

1. work one section (lower or upper body) out hard during about a 45 minute time frame....Be sure to have a breakfast of protein and fruits and juice...eat meats constantly around the day for every two hours, until after 3 in the afternoon, after this point you should really cut down on food intake..but the key is protein, right after you work out, drink a protein shake (my favorite is muscle milk chocolate) within two weeks you'll see results

2. Best way to get shit like your bench up, is circuit training, circuit training is were you pick 80% of your max weight and bench it 8 times...do this with freinds....you keep going until you get down to sixty percent of what u can do, and so on...after that you do sixteens...sixteens are when u take the bar without any weight and do eight regular reps, after you do that you control i slowly all the way down, and keep doing it in that order until u need some1 to help u lift the bar up...then proceed to do 10 pushups....

thats basically what i did and i was benchin 130, but now i can get that up with ease

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anybody fuck with no-explode and cell mass here. seems to be working for me.

you should get the pills that the "russian stormtroops" get !!!
Some guy showed me em, he said they dont cost that much here...
anyways, i dont bodybuild or weightlift, doesnt interrest me,
but if u wanna be big, and angry, eat those pills !

i post on another forum to get ideas of training and what not cuz i do alot of sports and just want to stay in shape a lot of trainers and just people that really know they shit post on ther

here is a link ask questions there

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/

i now it says body building but most of the ppl are like u or me who just want to keep in shape so why not ask the ppl that do it for a living

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Originally Posted by whitey

anybody fuck with no-explode and cell mass here. seems to be working for me.

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i've heard of no explode, i heard that shit makes your veins pop out or makes your muscles bigger or some shit.

i was thinking of getting it but i can barely afford a month's worth of protein shakes.

and fuck when it comes to protein shakes it can get horrible nasty tasting, i need some tips on that. i was just thinking of blending it with some fruit or yogurt or something.

the no xplode actually tastes kinda good to me. you can find a thing of it online for about 35-40. or at a gnc (scam) for like 60. gives you a good 40 servings worth. but its not something to open then have sit around and use whenever. should try and use it everyday till it runs out or the milk goes sour.

Not to disagree, but I've ready in many places that your workouts are basically the same (you should be switching them up every so often anyway to keep your body guessing). What determines gaining muscle or leaning out is your diet, i.e. calories. Eat less and workout hard you'll lose fat (add cardio 3 times a week or so)...

Workout hard and eat more...

Again, you should eat good though.....and to gain or preserve muscle you should aim for 1gm of Protein per pound of body weight.

bodybuilding.com --- go to the message boards, everything you need to know right there

I can bench 210 lbs. I'm 6ft and I weigh 150 lbs. Is that good for a person that is my height and weight?

high protean diet
and heavy power lifting
4 sets at 8 reps each

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Originally Posted by Ironman

I can bench 210 lbs. I'm 6ft and I weigh 150 lbs. Is that good for a person that is my height and weight?

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is that your max? personally i dunno, i'm a little taller and heavier than you but i've never tested my max.

but you're strong, don't worry about that.

my Max was 175 but I ain't been to the gym in about 3 months

im 5'10" 200lbs
last time i maxed was some time ago and it was 310lbs

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Originally Posted by 100pr00f

im 5'10" 200lbs
last time i maxed was some time ago and it was 310lbs

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ur a beast

lol....

im 5'4''

145lbs

and last time i maxed out was at 175...

but now im going for definition, 40 reps straight up...

i been training for 2 years now, im 6'3" and weigh 95kilo's (dont know how many lbs) i never tried to max out on bench press but the most i'v done is 100kilos i wouldnt say it was my max, i was able to do 6 reps with it. i dont lift heavy everyday at the gym cause all the pro's tell me not to as im still young.

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Originally Posted by Ironman

I can bench 210 lbs. I'm 6ft and I weigh 150 lbs. Is that good for a person that is my height and weight?

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Very good even for a 1 rep max but if u do it more than that thats great

I am 165 and i can only do 215 1 time on a good day

I'm 5'9,148
my max bench - 198lbs

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Originally Posted by Palehorse

definition and increasing muscle mass are 2 different things

definition u want to do more sets with higher repetition

muscle mass u want to power lift heavy weights with fewer sets and reps

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they are 2 different things.one is lowering your bodyfat and the other is increasing muscle mass.

doing more sets with higher repititons won't do anything.where are you getting this information from.its false.dont believe him.doing high sets and reps will just build up a lot of lactic acid, stress your central nervous system, shoot your muscle eating cortisol through the roof and waste your time.

you dont want to sit in a gym wasting your time do you.

if you want big muscles, lift heavy and intense in short brief workouts using only basic movements like bench presses,shoulder presses,bicep curls, deadlits,pullups,bent over rows, dips.get your weight up in these excersizes.devote a day for each bodypart.

for example do chest one day

flat bench 2 sets
incline 2 sets
dips 2 sets

all hardcore heavy sets,give yourself at least a week in between bodyparts.

if you want definition your going to have to lower your bodyfat plain and simple.theres no such thing as building definition.definition cannot be built.the muslce is either there or it isnt.to expose that muscle you need to lower your bodyfat and that is the only way.lose some weight through watching your diet and doing cardio if need be.its about a calorie deficiency.you wont build muslce during this period however, only keep the muscle that you built if you do it correctly.

good luck

my biggest peice of advice is to read beyond brawn

and dont listen to what everyone else said lol

peace

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Originally Posted by WWW.SINS.TK

they are 2 different things.one is lowering your bodyfat and the other is increasing muscle mass.

doing more sets with higher repititons won't do anything.where are you getting this information from.its false.dont believe him.doing high sets and reps will just build up a lot of lactic acid, stress your central nervous system, shoot your muscle eating cortisol through the roof and waste your time.

you dont want to sit in a gym wasting your time do you.

if you want big muscles, lift heavy and intense in short brief workouts using only basic movements like bench presses,shoulder presses,bicep curls, deadlits,pullups,bent over rows, dips.get your weight up in these excersizes.devote a day for each bodypart.

for example do chest one day

flat bench 2 sets
incline 2 sets
dips 2 sets

all hardcore heavy sets,give yourself at least a week in between bodyparts.

if you want definition your going to have to lower your bodyfat plain and simple.theres no such thing as building definition.definition cannot be built.the muslce is either there or it isnt.to expose that muscle you need to lower your bodyfat and that is the only way.lose some weight through watching your diet and doing cardio if need be.its about a calorie deficiency.you wont build muslce during this period however, only keep the muscle that you built if you do it correctly.

good luck

my biggest peice of advice is to read beyond brawn

and dont listen to what everyone else said lol

peace

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Thats exactly the type of workout me and my training partner does and it works, I've made some serious improvements over the last 3 months and this is the regime that my partner who is very muscular by the way recommended that I do.

Well said Sins, very good advice.

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Originally Posted by TAURO DA GRIM LATIN

Thats exactly the type of workout me and my training partner does and it works, I've made some serious improvements over the last 3 months and this is the regime that my partner who is very muscular by the way recommended that I do.

Well said Sins, very good advice.

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thanks man

You cant get anything for free.The gym iz your best bet.You can ride a stationary bike,do sit ups,push ups,and still have unlimited use of weights.GO TO THE GYM.

I never went to a gym and it will never happen...
Training at home with a split program (of course):

Monday:
Shoulders

Tuesday:
Biceps, Triceps (Curls, Dips, Push Ups)

Wednesday:
Legs & Running

Thursday:
Biceps, Triceps (Curls, Dips, Push Ups)

Friday:
Shoulders

Saturday:
Biceps, Triceps (Curls, Dips, Push Ups)

Sunday:
Legs & Running


I also work out with the Air Alert program... I'm training since 3 years, always with a little summer break. Don't use any Protein shakes, it will ruin your body. Why? Because as soon as you will stop consuming those shakes your body will miss the proteins and minerals, usual nutrition isn't able to deliver that kind of support for your muscles...
A friend of mine used those shakes, then stopped consuming and now his muscles look flabby, it looks terrible...
I've gained over 5 kilos of muscles without any gym, protein shakes and my own personal program...

^^Your workout program is awful.......why are you training your shoulders twice in the same week?

What about working your chest, abs and back?

You train your legs and run in the same session?....you are overexhusting yourself.

Im sorry but I've training for a few years now and when I started, it was at home. I can tell you that unless you have your own private gym, nothing beats working out in a proper gym. Not only can you be sure to cover everything, but you also have a lot of variety to choose from so that your routine does not become complacent.

If I was you I would seriously re-evaluate your training program coz honestly it stinks, if you don't train your back and chest you are missing out two core muscle groups which form the foundation of your physique.