The defintion of truth.

There is none.

My major issue is this, that I'll see a lot:

Just because something is explained scientifically, does not make it true or right. Just because something is scientifically inexplicable or impossible, does not mean it does not exist.

With things our modern society has discovered, and helps us to understand things better we figure we're learning the truth. However, isn't it very possible we are further from the truth than anything else?

Opinions, I'm not starting arguments, just stating opinions. Which to the closed minds mean "ARGUE AGAINST ME, I'M STUPID".
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I think science is the pursuit of expanding knowledge about the world around us. But I guess that would lead to the question, is knowledge and truth the same thing? Or maybe there is the seperation between physical and spiritual truth. Whereas, religion, spirtuality...ect is science's counterpart. I would say that we're highly evolved in one (science) and way too fuckin behind in the other (religion). If you believe what I say holds weight what do you think leads things to be the way they are?

science was made for those who do not believe in god. science is their for the robots who think 'this life is all their is and then u die' science ownz prooves what the companys who fund the scientists, what to be prooven, theirs plenty of alternative/open minded science
what blows 'materislitc/conventational science' away

the truth is?what ever you fathom out of experiance. their are many truths
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peace

I look at like man was given science so that he could better understand himself. God gave him that gift but I wouldn't say it was without it's uses, unfortunatly corperate greed does have its fingers in every pie.

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Originally Posted by Koolish

There is none.

My major issue is this, that I'll see a lot:

Just because something is explained scientifically, does not make it true or right. Just because something is scientifically inexplicable or impossible, does not mean it does not exist.

With things our modern society has discovered, and helps us to understand things better we figure we're learning the truth. However, isn't it very possible we are further from the truth than anything else?

Opinions, I'm not starting arguments, just stating opinions. Which to the closed minds mean "ARGUE AGAINST ME, I'M STUPID".

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i agree..

truths change very often in society..

it was once truth that the earth was flat and them it was truth that it is round... you see we are told things which were meant to be truth but we must do knowledge our own way to figure things out..

as for science.. science is one way of explaining things however science relies on rationality.. though rationality has flaws..

in science we use our human senses to make decisions.. when we see two chemicals mix and see a green color.. we say it is green because our eyes saw it..

BUT our senses have flaws... our eyes can be deceived..our ears can hear the wrong sound which was poluted by other sounds.. our taste buds may be fooled by previous foods in our mouths ie.. when u brush ur teeth and eat an apple staright away..it tastes disgusting..

therefore science can have flaws and thus science cannot determine false and truth 100%


and as soul controller said..

truth is what we have through our own experiences and analysis

peace n blessingz

this has been done before, its all sunbjective, if u state fact, thats the truth in my eyes

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Originally Posted by Ronin

this has been done before, its all sunbjective, if u state fact, thats the truth in my eyes

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who states the facts and how did we get it?

http://www.asitis.com/2/2.html

http://www.asitis.com/7/1.html

http://www.asitis.com/7/7.html

^there´s no other holy writings where it´s talk on THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH

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Originally Posted by Princerai

i agree..

truths change very often in society..

it was once truth that the earth was flat and them it was truth that it is round... you see we are told things which were meant to be truth but we must do knowledge our own way to figure things out..

as for science.. science is one way of explaining things however science relies on rationality.. though rationality has flaws..

in science we use our human senses to make decisions.. when we see two chemicals mix and see a green color.. we say it is green because our eyes saw it..

BUT our senses have flaws... our eyes can be deceived..our ears can hear the wrong sound which was poluted by other sounds.. our taste buds may be fooled by previous foods in our mouths ie.. when u brush ur teeth and eat an apple staright away..it tastes disgusting..

therefore science can have flaws and thus science cannot determine false and truth 100%


and as soul controller said..

truth is what we have through our own experiences and analysis

peace n blessingz

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i agree..there is no pure truth...imo don't get crazy and dig to deep in all the reading..its good to read...and find subjects interesting agree on things and all but at the end of the day..you gotta make moves and be happy

PEACE

the definition of truth is when you become wise enough to not have any opinions

at the same time

you realize that nobody gives a shit about your opinion


(the above is not my opinion)

my opinion is that wu-tang is great

Peace

It is ironic that science never claims absolute truth, and rather looks for fidelity and constancy.. while virtually each and every RELIGION claims to have the TRUTH in their respective spiritual fundamentals.

peace

with no evidence

if u want to appear mystical and metaphoirically a genious then u can say NOTHING IS TRUE! WHO DECIDES SUCH THINGS? HOW CAN IT BE TRUE WHEN WE DONT KNOW IF WE EXIST? WE COULD BE ALIENS IN PYRIMIDS!

well its true, if u cut me i bleed, if u chop my head off, i die

thats truth, absoloute truth

its easy to misinterprite opinions with truth though

well.. god is the absolute truth. that´s what he state in the vedic sankrit (oldest holy scripts) and in a koran and a bible too. he sayin.. there´s non higher than me. i am the first person. ya´ll are my children..

it´s realyl only one question. do you belive in god or in science?

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with no evidence

if u want to appear mystical and metaphoirically a genious then u can say NOTHING IS TRUE! WHO DECIDES SUCH THINGS? HOW CAN IT BE TRUE WHEN WE DONT KNOW IF WE EXIST? WE COULD BE ALIENS IN PYRIMIDS!

well its true, if u cut me i bleed, if u chop my head off, i die

thats truth, absoloute truth

its easy to misinterprite opinions with truth though

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if you want to push the envelope a bit further:
what is death?

that is the question nobody can answer

the way things work around here - thats prolly where you find the truth too



you all do realize that there is something somewhere laughing about all this shit

PEACE

and wouldnt you shit your pants if you cut somebody and they didnt bleed?

its not so hard to answer imo. when you die your brain stops its activity. when it happens you dont sense/feel your environment anymore ---> theres literally nothing after death.

your soul stays alive.. ask wu tang

i cant because they never visit this site.:<<<<

;-) i feel u

Attacking science is silly. Is it so unreasonable to do what you say you can? Is it unreasonable to show others what you've seen? If it can be percieved on any level, then its fit for science. If it cannot be percieved, then where does YOUR source of knowledge come from?

TRUTH...science and religion have been separated when they are one.

They both are paths to walk to find the absolute truth.

Ive noticed that many people who have an understanding of God, really do know a lot about science, such as how the human body works, anatomy, geology, etc.

Now a lot of scientist, or people who believe in science, often say things are "irrational" simply when they cannot be explained. But just because something cannot be explained doesnt make it false? Why the hell lemmers jump to their death for no reason cannot be explained, but they do that shit anyway. Now one thing I learned from my father to say to science believers is that there is an easy way to explain the metaphysical. "For every action there has to be an equal an opposite reaction. You can stop, so therefore you must go. What goes up, must come down. There's light, so there's darkness. If you have the seen, than you must have the unseen." Makes perfect sense really.

And there are so many things that really doesnt make sense to me atleast. Like the missing link in evolution, and how we all come from a cell and just evolved into the billions of species we have. Adaptation, yes, but evolution itself doesnt phathom with me. Cant really break it down, but seriously sit down and think about it one day and you may see.

and scientists today are so corrupt that they know the "truth" that they want to find, so theyll pervert an experiment so that they can get desirable results. Its hard to find truth because we all have biases, and who does not want what they believe to hold true? More shit I can get into later if someone asks but Ive already taken up so much space.

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Originally Posted by belfalo

its not so hard to answer imo. when you die your brain stops its activity. when it happens you dont sense/feel your environment anymore ---> theres literally nothing after death.

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what is 'you'?

what is 'brain activity'?

what is 'sense/feel'?

does anything else stay alive when you are dead? or do you take the universe with you?

does your brain help you understand? or does it prevent you from understanding?

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Originally Posted by brahma

your soul stays alive.. ask wu tang

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arent you your soul?

do you not aspire to be at one with your soul?

if you are at one with your soul
and your soul stays alive

then that means you stay alive

TrueWisdom:
as far as i know the missing link in evolution has been found but im not sure. ill look it up.

lmao get the fuck out wit this evolution talk being truth

[QUOTE=LHX]what is 'you'?

what is 'brain activity'?
the brain is the part of the body where all input gets mastered. the senses, the intelligence, the ghost... it all gets into the brain and it comes to brain activity.

what is 'sense/feel'?
there´s two ways of feeling. materially with your skin (5thsense) and spiritually with your heart.

does anything else stay alive when you are dead? or do you take the universe with you?
hehe..nice question. in my position i must say no, nobody stays alive until god sends someone who keeps it up for me, playin my position when i leave this body. lol but usually everything stays alive when one loose his/her body.

does your brain help you understand? or does it prevent you from understanding?
i got six senses,intelligence and a heart which i use to understand things. the brain is just a material part of a machine, my soul is caged in.

arent you your soul?
no... the souls are god´s property. it´s borrowed. but god leaves it to everyone as a gift.

do you not aspire to be at one with your soul?
i am an individual soul

if you are at one with your soul
and your soul stays alive
then that means you stay alive -one can´t be departet from his soul

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Originally Posted by LHX

what is 'you'?

what is 'brain activity'?

what is 'sense/feel'?

does anything else stay alive when you are dead? or do you take the universe with you?

does your brain help you understand? or does it prevent you from understanding?

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by "you" i mean your brain. its the only organ that cannot be replaced because if you put another brain in the body it will be a different person while you can still put your own brain in another body and be the same.

when you brain dies the elecrticity stops to work inside. the brain works like a computer. when it stops your life ends.

i dont think anything else "dies" when you do. you life simply ends and your body starts to rot. thats all folks. the same happens when a dog or a bird dies. humans are smart animals.

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Originally Posted by Bone Collecta

lmao get the fuck out wit this evolution talk being truth

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evolutions may hasnt made you smarter then a monkey but it still exists you know.

[QUOTE=belfalo]by "you" i mean your brain. its the only organ that cannot be replaced because if you put another brain in the body it will be a different person while you can still put your own brain in another body and be the same.

^^ that´s real funny bullshit... have you evere heard about a workin brain transplantation on humans? no? me neither.. and if they manage it.. the person would be the same as before but with another brain. that´s just flesh and nerves ... that´s got non to do with the soul which is in the heart

when you brain dies the elecrticity stops to work inside. the brain works like a computer. when it stops your life ends.
YEAH! it´s very complex .. much more comlexity than a computer.. that´s why a transplanation is "not working" yet.

i dont think anything else "dies" when you do. you life simply ends and your body starts to rot. thats all
folks. the same happens when a dog or a bird dies. humans are smart animals
if you think you are a smart animal.. okay. i do feel different from animals... cause i really learn very fast and i know what´s right and wrong. cause my soul told me that... animals don´t know what´s right or wrong and woops.. there you are .smart animal.. you can´t understand this cause you don´t know what´s right or wrong in this case, cause you haven´t learned it yet.. but keep on. you on your way...

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TRUTH...science and religion have been separated when they are one.

They both are paths to walk to find the absolute truth.

Ive noticed that many people who have an understanding of God, really do know a lot about science, such as how the human body works, anatomy, geology, etc.

Now a lot of scientist, or people who believe in science, often say things are "irrational" simply when they cannot be explained. But just because something cannot be explained doesnt make it false? Why the hell lemmers jump to their death for no reason cannot be explained, but they do that shit anyway. Now one thing I learned from my father to say to science believers is that there is an easy way to explain the metaphysical. "For every action there has to be an equal an opposite reaction. You can stop, so therefore you must go. What goes up, must come down. There's light, so there's darkness. If you have the seen, than you must have the unseen." Makes perfect sense really.

And there are so many things that really doesnt make sense to me atleast. Like the missing link in evolution, and how we all come from a cell and just evolved into the billions of species we have. Adaptation, yes, but evolution itself doesnt phathom with me. Cant really break it down, but seriously sit down and think about it one day and you may see.

and scientists today are so corrupt that they know the "truth" that they want to find, so theyll pervert an experiment so that they can get desirable results. Its hard to find truth because we all have biases, and who does not want what they believe to hold true? More shit I can get into later if someone asks but Ive already taken up so much space.

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Nice post man. Peace.

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Why the hell lemmers jump to their death for no reason cannot be explained, but they do that shit anyway

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Actually...

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Lemmings.html

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Now a lot of scientist, or people who believe in science

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You say that like you're not one of them.

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"For every action there has to be an equal an opposite reaction. You can stop, so therefore you must go. What goes up, must come down. There's light, so there's darkness. If you have the seen, than you must have the unseen."

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Thats more like "For every state, there must be an equal and opposite state", which is not a valid scientific theory, at least not the one you're referring too. After all, being seen is not an action. Also, taking your statement as true, it only suggests that there are unseen things, not that any specific one is true, which still leaves us with a pile of unproven nonsense.

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And there are so many things that really doesnt make sense to me atleast. Like the missing link in evolution, and how we all come from a cell and just evolved into the billions of species we have. Adaptation, yes, but evolution itself doesnt phathom with me. Cant really break it down, but seriously sit down and think about it one day and you may see.

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The thing is though, that a scientist will show you everything he can about this. Science keeps no secrets. Not many anyways.

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and scientists today are so corrupt that they know the "truth" that they want to find, so theyll pervert an experiment so that they can get desirable results. Its hard to find truth because we all have biases, and who does not want what they believe to hold true?

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This is simply untrue. If scientists fuck up an experiment, its all on paper. When someone reproduces it and gets different results, they're busted. They do start with hypothesis, but they can only get away woth falsehoods for a short period of time.

Originally Posted by TrueWisdom
TRUTH...science and religion have been separated when they are one.

They both are paths to walk to find the absolute truth.

Ive noticed that many people who have an understanding of God, really do know a lot about science, such as how the human body works, anatomy, geology, etc.

Now a lot of scientist, or people who believe in science, often say things are "irrational" simply when they cannot be explained. But just because something cannot be explained doesnt make it false?


^^ yeah.. scientists most times don´t belive in god and don´t know shitz about him or such spriritual themes. but wise god heads do know a lot about science.. how come? cause god shows them what is important to know and whats not so much interesting...

As for the brain issue, turn it off and see whats on the other side. You'll find nothing. In fact, you won't even know you were "sleeping" until you awake. You are perfectly content with, and oblivious to, being dead. Only coming back to life is a pain.

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As for the brain issue, turn it off and see whats on the other side. You'll find nothing. In fact, you won't even know you were "sleeping" until you awake. You are perfectly content with, and oblivious to, being dead. Only coming back to life is a pain.

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comin back to life is real pain, that´s also what god says.. cause the soul is caged for long time before it comes out. for example . a human baby is caged 9months on a very small room inside mami. that´s real pains... cause when that happens.. your soul is still alive.. but when one gets out of mami.. first five years or something like that .. one can´t explain shit that happend and forgets the pain all through the years...

If my soul is still alive when my brain is turned off, then whats death and why does making a distinction matter?

Wanna know the truth? Well here it is.... NOBODY ON THIS PLANET KNOWS IT.... ty ....

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Originally Posted by Os3y3ris

If my soul is still alive when my brain is turned off, then whats death and why does making a distinction matter?

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co-fucking-sign

somebody ring a bell

there seems to be a lot of confusion running around here

words

we trip over words



a word is a function of the eye

what this means is:
you can only use words to demonstrate something that can be seen with the eye

thus - you cannot verbally discuss 'soul' or 'after death'

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Originally Posted by belfalo

i dont think anything else "dies" when you do. you life simply ends and your body starts to rot. thats all folks. the same happens when a dog or a bird dies. humans are smart animals.

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your body starts to rot

rotting is a way of coming back into the life cycle

so doesnt that mean that your REAL life actually begins?

no matter how long a 'life' is - one second up to 130 years
that is small time compared to eternity

PEACE

yeah.. DEATH is for the physical. the soul is spiritual and can´t be seen by the material eye.. neither can death, cause that´s on the body and the soul leaves the body when the body dies... there´s no death for the soul. you gotta differ beteween the material energies and the spiritual