I try to write nd shit but i just cant get the hang of it. Any tips, ideas or help?
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I try to write nd shit but i just cant get the hang of it. Any tips, ideas or help?
Believe it or not, this isn't as bad as you think. Keep working on it and it'll get better. We all gotta start somewhere. As far as tips, what helps me is, saying it out loud, if it doesn't flow right all the way through, I change words until it's consistent. Just keep posting and see what people think.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXKhemikalXx
Edit: lol, If nobody kills you in the other thread, I'll happily do it after work :p.
Altight yea if you wanna kill me its ok.
youre real wack!!! ill end your keystyling career before it starts!!!
just stay the fuck out and watch my sword cut through anything your mind will construct!!!
watch me blow on the mic look a book shelf
you get on the mic and blow it like brooke shields
you like to thread beads in n out ya butt hole
your dead with a mud hole leakin out a puddle
youre a fat homo like rosie o donnel
eating whole packages of choclate double stack milanos
a fat fuck with a girl who looks like john goodman
forced to puke while givin her long looking
step off rookie!!!!
Did You make that up Thats a baby rap,
Its past your bedtime go take a nap,
You were an accident a mishap,
You say your angry but at who at?
God for makin you unloved and fat?
Did he make you look like a rat?
Ya annoyin like a gnat,
Get outta here before i hit you wit my bat,
Fuck it ill pull out my gat,
1 in the chest 2 in the head,
Bitch get up oh wait ya dead.
Khem:
You have good structure, but your rhymes were too basic. Fat, rat, gnat, bat. I feel you are on the right track, but just need to be more creative with your style. It will build over time, so do not get discouraged.
angry:
No structure. Nothing rhymed. I'll give you points for the Rosie O'Donnell insult, but other than that....
i'll do your rhyme the way i would have wrote it.
thats some baby rap, softer than baby crap
angry you cranky its time to take a nap,
ur a mishap, result of when a trojan snapped
u mad? maybe at God cuz u ugly and fat
a cracker with no cheese but he look like a rat
infested with fleas... flies.... maggots and gnats
getoutta dodge before i grab my bat, play barry bonds
have you home runnin when pull out my gat
click-clack, fuck yo legs and arms, i'm dome gunnin
u on yo back like a bitch at the prom or homecomin
see how i spiced it up with "inbetween rhymes" and extended metaphors.
if my rhyming word was "rap" i'll try to toss in a few more "-ap" words inbetween the end of the line.
also try to use alliteration, using words that start with the same letter in sequence. 2pac did this the best, listen to him.
extended metaphors - you did it when you said "baby rap/take a nap" but then stopped doing it.
rapping is a mixture of all these things and more.
be creative be original and you'll be good.
watch your fuckin mouth manga boy!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by James Crow ESQ
Lol
i would make you quit rapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by angry!
if you want to go out like cobain, i'm not hard to find.
look in the mirror longer clown or drop a 16 on your homies!!!
after the reaction youll likely quit!!!
there aint a niche for a final fantasy spit cornball!!!!
^^Dude shut up.
you do the same!!!
you got no rhythm when you write you got a real cyborg element to your rappin!!!
id give you advice but itd go over your head!!!!
listen to these other corn balls!!!!
i never really understood why yall are posting some lyrics on the internet. i mean this is like only 30 percent of the job; if you wanna rap you have to be able to record or to perform the song and thats much harder than writing imo. especially at the begining i remember how hard it was for me to record a song because it sounded like shit. it took me several months to really feel comfortable with da mic and to impress people with my performance
real talk
^^bingo!!!
dropping rhymes here should be for practice!!!
a lot of yall never rocked a cipher in person!!!
notebook chumps!!!
i create shit for money, you take shit for money
shovelin... mumblin bout ya boss is a dummy...under your breath
i could trick your lights gas and rent... lunch money
ur posts is like how much money ive spent...it aint funny
i throw it in yo face
thats just the icing on the cake thats leavin you lookin crummy
murderer... kid i am merciless..
every letter a machete...confetti... u aint ready,
i just make it look effortless
u angry i get more pussy than hugh heffner gets
thats just an estimate, jealous i gotta betta bitch...
an yours say she celibate, my lyrics is napalm
i'm a sick MOTHERfucker like i developed an oedipus
professor x'n it... got me doin a facepalm
cuz every line you spit... i can guess the rest of it
u give me diabeetus, i could wear a pink wifebeater an be dancin to akon... makeup, eatin bon bons with a rainbow cape on ...this sissy'd still be sweeter
but really this is the internet, silly shit is irrelevant
cause the fact is, cracker u wack...u lack practice
like when yo lady gave me head an said she never kissed an elephant
so call me STYLE MasterDon, yo raps is like a slap versus the arm of megatron
firing laser beams with the force of atom bombs
silencing your screams shakin the street like gelatin
i write a 16s that shatter yo catalog..this is the evidence
theres no competitor better than the veteran, J Crow
i dont spit off the dome wigger... this off the melanin
Rappin is something you're either good at or not. Some people get it, some don't. Even if you don't get it & you happen to learn how to rap, chances are you'll never be as good as those who it comes naturally too. I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just sayin.
Anyway, just keep writin man. HUGE tip.... get familiar with the English language. I'm not just talkin what words rhyme with what.... expand your vocab. Learn about similes & metaphors. Don't fuck with some Lil Wayne type shit, 99% of his similes & metaphors are lame as fuck, some simpleton shit.
Here's a GREAT example by Immortal Technique:
The bling-bling era was cute but it's about to be done
I'll leave you fulla clips like the moon blockin the sun
Check it... I'll leave you full eclipse like the moon blockin the sun, because during a "fulla clips" or full eclipse, the moon covers the sun.
Obviously you won't have shit this complex when you start, but you may be able to get there.
not to be an asshole cuz i agree with everything you had to say but....
that eclips meta was on the same level as wayne
nothin but simple one line word play
now if he had said "fulla clipse" AND something about being a "luna"tic.... then he'd be on the next level
if he said that AND tied it to bling bling losing shine... then he'd be on my level
triple sowcow into double axle with a twist
youre a fucking homo. you just dedicated way too much time writing a keystyle response to me that i wont even read.
youre a nerd not a emcee. its cool dog lupe fiasco can pull it off for his audience but youre into photoshopping the batmobile and masterbating to video game smut!!! youre life is one big...
L
Angry you're an idiot all good rhymes start with writing, and you use your exclamation marks way too much.
hahah you think i made an effort?
i do this with my eyes closed .
just like i thought. u quit.
a real mc never gets slaspped then walks away.
or a man for that matter.
you got me confused with some cracker.
Lol
There's a couple things I want to say.
1. As stated previously, you need to understand the language in detail and you need to understand rhyme and meter. You need to understand how to create a rythm with your words. I think looking at traditional poetry will be helpful at first. Understanding rhyme schemes and the number of syllables in a line really turns your off the dome free style into something that belongs on a tape.
2. Don't rap about rap. That's stupid and boring. Rhyme about something interesting. If you won't do that figure out a way to present it in a fresh way. MF DOOM talks about the same ol same ol as all the other guys in the industry, but he wears a super villain costume and makes the sickest mix tapes with other artists. Don't find a gimmick style, but make your material reflect you. I mean I think Eminem sucks [I've never liked his sound or his rhymes tbh], but people like him, why? He had spunk and his rhymes were about the media and stuff that people didn't generally talk about.
3. Take a concept and drench your material with it. Clipse drench their lyrics in drug slang because thats what they bring to the table. Immortal Technique is carrying on the Tupac social change messages. Jedi Mind Tricks talk about religion a lot. Gravediggaz brought disturbing lyrics inspired by horror as have many other rappers. T Pain [not really a rapper but whatever] brings the best auto tune in the industry.
Forgive me I'm mad rusty, I haven't laid a verse in months
I break rock like chain gangs in gang land
Flash steel like I chop heads in Japan
Burn slow like a game blunt in action
Blunt when I burn faggots in transactions
Check the transmission, Dynomite starts the blasting
Keep my eye on my quarry and then I start laughing
Sweet fun on their lips keep the girls in my bed and
Big guns on my hips keep the pigs off my ass and
Fuck this shit hoe I come rhyming all calibers
Calibrate this bitch when I'm coming after ya
I leave your chest deflated like a basket
Balls in the dirt cause my style be classic
Time's running out and your wifee be crying
Naw I'm just kidding 'bout your wifee, I'm lying
Nowadays its my dick that she's lining
White stuff on her teeth is still shining
White stuff in her vag is still dripping
Big thing in her mouth she's still lipping
And tonguing, and sucking, even seems to be biting
If you had a dick the concept'd be frightning
:D
Well does it matter if im white?
Ok, so im nowhere near the best of spitters, but i try my best.
Anyway.
I agree with alot of stuff said on here, well not anything that knob Angry dude wrote, but shiz that others said, bout learning the language, and listening to how other people rap.
Like JMT, AOTP, IT, Wu Tang, all that, All of which are my main insperation, i use their style of rapping, or atleast try, i guess its finding what you like to do best, and what you rap about and why you rap.
I myself do it, to try and keep my brain occupied from shit going on in life, like baliffs and that, works well, that, or i rap about how i feel, like say, if you check my "Substance" Thread first page near the bottom, you can see a really long one i posted, which was a rap i acctualy made to my girl, to try and describe certain things, it worked, but anyway, as people said, find what works best, pratice, and you should get better, i remember my first rap i made about 2 years ago, man it was WACK as hell, but im alot better, or atleast people say i am.
Hope i made sense.
Jamie
I wrote one song and i feel kinda self conshus about it. I dont know how to spell that word.
Its YOUR art why would u be self conscious?!
word, handiling the mic takes alot, if you aint familiar with it you'd be surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMH
as for internet rhymes, i don't take em as serious but being that it's a whole other method of display you gotta conform a little.
as for rhymin altogether here's what id suggest.
it's been said but if you dont got it you just dont got it, its like tagging. some things your blessed with... you might be blessed with it but dont know how to bring it out.
the poetry suggestion was on point... don't go read a few poems and think it is what it is... understand it. alot of times there are several layers to a poem, don't get tuned off by a line you don't understand and quit reading. find out what it means.
you'd be surprised at what somethings literally mean.
also try getting into philosophy... not so you can spit some prfound shit but more so to find yourself.
what i mean is there are alot of well known philosophers that are well known because what they say is generic and relates to everything in regards to basics but doesnt speak to you.
some of my fav philosophers are unknown cats but they said things that related to me and got my gears turning. you dont need to spit Aristotle or Plato. what philosophy did for me was understand the world as i see it with a twist. seeing how others could take a simple aspect of life and flip it on its side was incredible to me, also it takes wordplay so get your grammar game on point. once you fall into the world of poetry and philosophy, your surrounded by word play so you begin to absorb it.
2 more things i recommend...
1 - dont go with the first words you think of...
i got a rat
with a hat
and a bat...
i want the whopper, fuck the big mac.
you can tell your thinking of the rhymes word by word... (and if your guna rhyme the same sound alot try fitting more into one line like JCrow did, def gives flare) anyway get an idea first, hell if your starting out, write your rhymes down without making them rhyme, just what you wanna say, then chop them up and reword them to fit rhymingly. you'll learn structure that way... thats a lil more basic tho. that doesnt work for all.
but def get an idea first...
also try to stray from conforming yourself to ill conceived one liners.
if you think of something ill, dont half ass the line prior to it... let the whole thing flow.
and 2- you dont always gotta be the biggest nigga thats guna murder the dude. sometimes all it takes is small shit like tying his shoe laces together or pulling his pants down. it doesnt matter what color you are either and sometimes if you can flip your own flaws on them before they can get to you, works.
just stating you can rhyme and your white doesnt say much but for the most part race rhymes are lame. for whites anyway... no offence but i dont perceive them as having much of a culture so there isnt a whole lot to play off on that isnt predictable. latins n blax have more layers to their onions so i've yet to hear a witty rhyme about white people that impressed me.
this is alot and im bored so i'ma calm down.
just find out where your road is and what suits you.
i think the general consensus is philosophy and poetry invoke alot of intelligence and wit so thats my suggestion.
post your song tho.
No. I agree, that may not be the best type of meta, nor anywhere near the best type. However comparing Tech's metas to Lil' Wayne is a fucking JOKE.Quote:
Originally Posted by James Crow ESQ
oh and LOL @ "he'd be on my level" hahaha
Dear Khemikal,
I used to be just like you
Scared to bust or write a lick
Back then, I had a trick:
I would get angry and jot down a wicked verse
Shit, that was like my curse
All I hoped that it went to God's ear
Cuz he said I shouldn't fear
He would handle my battles
I would take a ninja's rattle
I use to be self-conscious
But now I just bounce this
Whatever sticks like pasta on the wall
I just have a ball
and make it go "swish" or "kwack!"
I'm loving this fool but I forgot his name, black
Could you help me find him?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Just stumbled upon this thread and I thought maybe I'd post my 1st attempt at a verse ever. I was looking at the rap battles thread and i kind of made my rap into a battle verse(tried anyway)
My rhymes toy with your brain cells, Premature visions of hell
Noone can save you, step into the ring, your cautious, curious to see what i bring,
Surprise in your eyes, Witness to an extrordinary thing
You're scared, you're nervous, What do you do? Can't back out, Flashbacks of bein bullied in school
This is an art, a science, You can't understand.
Lyricism with heart, Defiant, No ordinary man.
I pity the foo, Your down from my quick one twos, minds gettin foggy
Hallucinatin Swishas N Herb with Bob Marley
Your a bitch, a biter, Your Joe Buttons Blogging
Flow sounds off when i say it out loud, but i dunno how to reword it.
Just curious for some thoughts, advice....