Clipse-til the casket drops

http://2dopeboyz.okayplayer.com/wp-c...110-CLIPSE.jpgWhile the globe has been rocking to Neptune's produced beats since the late 90's and the Clipse has been the cats the Neptune's help usher in, it's only right that the Clipse have about almost all the LP helm by Chad & Pharrell aka The Neptune's. Both have been associated with the sound Virginia for a better part of the 2000's and the “Til the Casket Drops” isn't no different. The “Til the Casket Drops” LP itself has a strong and eerie sound as the last album, “Hell Hath No Fury” had with a strong cut of Pharrell's hooks, bridges and choruses coupled with the Clipse vivid street naratives have been proven to be a winning formula since the groups inception with “Grindin” off “Lord Willin” album.


With all that said, the Clipse have been grinding sickly hard with both Pusha T and Malice showing they more than just crack rappers with street narratives, they proving they got allot of flow, confidence and that new name for the it-factor “swagger” but what's with all that if the production value isn't there. That's where the Neptunes come in with bangers such as “Door Man”, “Freedom”, “Showin' Out”, yet all may have the signature snares, hi-hats,etc the sound has evolve and given the Clipse great paints to detail their portraits they painting together.


Overall this album is in the same vein of their previous efforts, yet it also show them maturing as rappers, showing they can speak on the same topics but come with a new zeal that wasn't there before. I'm going to give this LP a notch below there previous effort in a 3 out of 5 stars for the fact it's dope but it doesn't have the darkness you expect from an album titled “Til the Casket Drops”. Where is the darkness I don't see it, it's too colorful.


pS* I HATE THIS COVER

i think the cover is a little cheap looking. but it is an eye grabber when its on that rack. album thumps in the whip, a very very dope album.

Man that cover was done by KAWS. He's one of the dopest street artists out of New Jersey.

i just feel the cover's color doesn't fit the theme of the album, it's a good album but hell hath no fury was better, maybe it'll grow on me in time

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Originally Posted by DirtMcgehrk

Man that cover was done by KAWS. He's one of the dopest street artists out of New Jersey.

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I'm sure Picasso painted some shitty stuff in his life too...

After a few listens I'm really starting to appreciate this album, it's nothing like HHNF but I'm glad they didn't try to replicate it and chose to go for a different sound. The first half is near flawless but the last 6 or 7 tracks are kinda hit/miss, I don't think there are any weak tracks all the way through but just less standouts in the 2nd half. HHNF set the bar very high and I'm not at all disappointed with this.

Give it an 8.5/10, one of the best 3 releases of '09, probably will be my most played from this year though.

^i agree. i'd give this album a 9/10. the songs i wasn't really feeling at first just needed a proper sound system to listen to them on.

listening to this in the whip is an experience. the neptunes and khalil's drums hit HARD. 'showing out' with yo gotti is crazy.

the clipse are just on some other shit. head and shoulders above everyone else in what they are doing progressing their sound and rhymes.

I'll check out their new album later but i probably won't like it because of the beats. Hell Hath No Fury album sucks. Lord Willin album is pretty good.

LOL@album cover hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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Originally Posted by CharlesJones

I'll check out their new album later but i probably won't like it because of the beats. Hell Hath No Fury album sucks. Lord Willin album is pretty good.

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i am ;( for you.

Hell Hath No Fury sucked to me. Their first unreleased album Exclusive Audio Footage sucks too LOL. Funeral song is tight from their first album.

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Originally Posted by CharlesJones

Hell Hath No Fury sucked to me. Their first unreleased album Exclusive Audio Footage sucks too LOL. Funeral song is tight from their first album.

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funeral was the best song on they unreleased Debut

yea i wasnt feeling the exclusive audio footage, the beats killed it for me.

but they are fucking money on neptunes beats.

charles you are trippin bruh, hhnf is tip top. the whole thing bangs.


this new album is fire too. the two albums are like a ying and a yang. opposite forces but they do some both so dope.

I liked Exclusive Audio Footage, Feel Like Me is one of my favourite songs ever and The Funeral is ridiculous, they changed a lot since then.

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Originally Posted by whitey

yea i wasnt feeling the exclusive audio footage, the beats killed it for me.

but they are fucking money on neptunes beats.

charles you are trippin bruh, hhnf is tip top. the whole thing bangs.


this new album is fire too. the two albums are like a ying and a yang. opposite forces but they do some both so dope.

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exactly

If shit is dope then it's dope fuck an album cover.

Very disapointing album.

Its not terrible, but a huge dropoff from HHNF. Shit, the Road til the Casket Drops mixtape they dropped late last year is much better

I'm the biggest clipse fan there is, but this album is just wack.

im hyped to hear it

and those who keep doubting this,look i know alotta u folks on here hate mainstream artists but pharells beats are nasty to me,i enjoy all his side projects including nerd,i urge cats to have an open mind,u dont know what u missing out on,he my not have the wu sound u all love so much but he is a beast at what he does

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Originally Posted by graveyard_shifter

and those who keep doubting this,look i know alotta u folks on here hate mainstream artists but pharells beats are nasty to me,i enjoy all his side projects including nerd,i urge cats to have an open mind,u dont know what u missing out on,he my not have the wu sound u all love so much but he is a beast at what he does

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I agree Pharrell knows what he is doing, but the production on this album is just really bad.

I got nothing to do with mainstream or a wu sound dude, the album jus doesnt deliver anything listenable

^disagree 1 hundo %.

My quick sum up:
-Killa Cam ruined Popular Demand
-Keri Hilson should of been cut from All Eyes On Me - ya i know i will get some shit for this, but she fucked up their rhythm, they were on a fly "80s" flow, i felt that someone like...MC Lyte or Salt-n-Pepa should of sung the hook (beat goes hard) - maybe even throw in a verse or two
-Footsteps was brought down by the chorus
-This is no where close to Hell Hath No Fure lyrically
-Also, i felt they should of went with their more dark approach, instead of this pop shit
-Overall, The Neptunes did a great job with the production
-Malice & Pusha T did well adjusting to the beats
-TURN IT UP!!! The more you turn it up, the more you will like it.
-Let it grow

Top 5: Freedom, Kinda Like A Big Deal, Door Man (DAMN!!), Footsteps, Life Change

Grade: (3.25/5) B-

Freedom fucking bangs!

i like the clipse

i was disappointed

1. freedom - banging beat, heavy drums, one of pushas best verses ever, malice kills it, great opening record!!!!!

2. popular demand - incredible beat, incredible mixing, each emcee has an entirely different approach to the beat, cam was kinda rough, but malice cleaned this shit up to finish it!!!! clipse classic!!!!!!

3. kinda like a big deal - incredible instrumental!!! the live instrumentation gives it a lot of energy, and pusha dominates his first verse with a lot of presence and potent bars!!!! his delivery is becoming incredibly varied, his skillset is already sharp and still growing!!!!! coulda done without kanye, hes not bringing the same caliber of rhyme as push and mal but the track works regardless!!!!!! shits crack!!!!!!

4. showing out - really like the beat, inventive, drums go missing during the verses, cool breakdown inbetween some serious bars!!!!! gottis alright, one dimensional emcee that stays in his lane!!!! malic has one of the best verses on the album here, that shit deserves a hip hop quotable!!!!! sounds like mal was talking directly to the label heads with that shit!!!!!

5. im good - this is a great examlpe of push and mal dumbin down their delivery and lyrics, heavy drums on a beat that doesnt move me, annoying pharrel vocals throughtout the track, reaching for a hit, pass!!!!! this is a different side of clipse id rather not hear!!!!!

6. there was a murder - khalil, again, merking the track with the mix of sonic funk and live instrumentation!!!! his tracks breathe, real lively tracks and push comes through again showing off with the delivery dropping anti snitch barbs in a carribean accent that works!!!! takes a while to get started, but they both kill it on some late night crime story shit!!!!!

door man - heavy beat, heavy bass, heavy lyrics!!!! strong hook, and both push and mal fuck this track inside out!!!! this woulda fit on hell hath no problem, pusha versatility verse to verse really impressed me on this album!!!! this track on a high end car system is demo quality!!!!!!!!

never will it stop - this is cocaine flip clipse, first verse gets bodied with a flawless flow, weaves effortlessly over a funky ass beat that, decent liva verse, malice eats it whole on clean up!!!! high energy track, get you up type shit!!!!!

all eyes on me - worst clipse track of all time!!!! trance beat, phoned in verses, dumbed down deliveries, hollow trance beat, corny guest vocals!!!!! terrible!!!!!!

counselling - some smoothed out traditional neptunes shit, relationship rhymes that make sense!!!!! decent record, not running to replay it though!!!!! for the shorties!!!!!!

champion - kind of a messy record, weak hook, beat sounds a lot like "im good", heavy drums, push coming at the track on some glossy shit, mal on the head strong conscious rhymes!!!! its a cool record to slide to radio, havent really heard clipse approach many tracks like they did this one!!!!

footsteps - and were back to regular clipse programming!!!! another crack beat from khalil, sons drums are vicious on this album!!!!!! push kills it, mal kills it, what else you need to know!?!?!

life change - sums up the album perfectly!!!! this album marks a change in the clipse dynamic, the content has been opened up and expanded ten fold!!!! life hits hard and can change a mans perspective, push and mal drive the point home!!!! top shelf neptunes track, incredible mixing once again!!!!!!

overall this album is dope, it has a 3 track skid starting with "all eyes on me" but rebounds!!!! im really lookng forward to the next clipse project, push and mal are 2 seperate trains of thought at this point, compared to when they were almost the same voice on lord willin!!!!!! the dynamic is changing, itl be interesting to follow from here!!!! strong album, cop it!!!!!!

I hated this album when I first bought it but after a few months of playing it here and there, I'm to the point where I can play it all the way through and love every track

Some thoughts

- Malice kind of dragged the album down a bit. I'm glad he's found the Lord and everything but I'm not listening to Clipse for moral values and insight into personal turmoil. Pusha T is still spittin' cocaine raps on every track and Malice is rappin about Jesus and his new life on half of them. That being said, Malice still has my favorite lines on the album

"I fathered this. If I mislead any kid that's fatherless
That burden's on my soul as long as I exist"

- Pusha T is sounding less like a Thornton brother and more like Kanye as he progresses into his career, but I'm not gonna whine about his voice; he's as sharp as ever.

"Nowadays she can't even face me
I'm sorry for the heartbreak, I promised you Forever My Lady
Jodeci baby, pompous muthafucka, just look what the jewels made me
I'm only finding comfort in knowing you can't replace me"

- Guests: Killa Cam almost completely ruined Popular Demand for me. At least that's what I thought, but after listening to his verse a thousand times to get to Malice's verse, it's kind of grown on me. Kanye's verse on Kinda Like a Big Deal is pretty shitty and out of place, but if you're a mainstream artist and you have a chance to get Ye as a feature for your new album, you're gonna take it. I understand that. Yo Gotti's verse was nice, Ab-Liva killed Never Will It Stop like he kills every Clipse feature.

- Singers: All the singing on this album is very well done. Being a Wu-fan and listening to shit like Allah Real and Suga Bang Bang all day, you forget how talented some singers are on mainstream albums. Case in point, footsteps. That's some autotuned commercial oriented shit, but who's going to deny that it sounds great? Keri Hilson didn't need to be on All Eyes On Me, I actually love that track but her parts were unnecessary. Nicole Hurst sounded great on Counseling, and Pharell always sounds good when he's not rapping.

- Beats: All fire. Every one.

- Direction: I think we all did ourselves a disservice by expecting another Hell Hath No Fury. I love that album and I still want more like it, but it's time to accept that Clipse is heading in another direction musically. As they get more fame, we're gonna hear less records like Grindin' and more like Champion. Nothing to do but embrace it.

Overall I'd give it a soild 8.5/10.

Finally heard this album today and it sucks.

classic album you fucks