what does God mean to you?
how would you explain what God is?
if you are atheist, what do you think does not exist? because you have to have an idea that you can refute or lack evidence of .
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what does God mean to you?
how would you explain what God is?
if you are atheist, what do you think does not exist? because you have to have an idea that you can refute or lack evidence of .
The anthropomorphic form of a concept.
For and example:
Allah is the concept of a conscious Universe as is Brahman.
Zeus is the concept of the power of the Heavens to make storms which affect life.
Horus is the concept of Avenging one's Father.
Nike is the concept of having victory.
Lady Liberty is the concept of freedom.
Chronos is time.
Odin is a god of Knowledge.
Quetzalcoatl or Aeolus is the winds.
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy
boarz, you got a few of those wrong. instead of interpreting other people's gods, define YOUR God.
FYI, horus represents the omniscient characteristic of God, among a host of other things.
rob is just too hip. i bet you have a chakra app on your ipad.
my understanding is "god" is everything we know dont know infinitely in micro and macro - seen unseen.
"God" at one point was a little unseen speck of nothingness - but wanted to know itself more then itself - not as itself - split itself - big bang therory kicks in.
Fear was known in the unknown chaos - then love and attraction began - the universe "god" has expanded and will renuite to begin the cycle all over for infinity and he does this on all levels up or down for infinity.
My question is does "god" have a "god"?
nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by V4D3R
my mind just folded in on itself with that question.
I just realized I said "he" =\ society has an ingrained visual imprint of "god" as a man/being.
How could a man\being of created the universe and why would it choose to make the decisions it made in allowing failed civilizations time and time again?
Each soul (program) has free will until reunited the kingdom (god) and all are one with the main processor working as a whole and "the glory returns" ( knowledge knowledge )
And we learn it all in multiple lifetimes to become perfect beings balanced in knowing the difference in fear and love.
The creator having a "maker" is something we got to find out when the time is right is each our own time I'm thinking. A lot of questions we wont get answers to until we pass on.
To me, God is an ideal. He is everything man is not, he is perfect. I don't believe in a god in the sky.
I believe in an idea of god. For example I find ridiculous descartes's ontological proof of god's existence, that is that since god is perfect, and existing is more perfect than not existing, then he exists.
Im not an atheist because I don't place myself as oppsed to religion, I just have no religion, because I don't need it.
If I had to choose, even though I don't wish to be trapped in a category, I'd say Im a deist, because I'm finding it hard to believe and illogical that nothing is the origin of everything. But I don't believe that anyone is "closer " to god than anybody else because hes the pope or whatever.
I'm an atheist but instead of disregarding the concept of god I just looked at the universe for something that fits the definition of god.
As A Result I don't see god as a conscience but rather a name for all the powers that make the universe work.
God is often seen as the overseer & Controller of the universe, this transelates into gravity for example, it makes sure we stay on earth & the earth stays in orbit around the sun so that we hav elife.
Another example is Evolution, it oversees us and often gives what we need to survive.
God is all, he is everything and nothing.
this idea is stuck on my mind at the moment. like what if reality was a fractal? and no matter how far in or out you zoomed you were left with a macrocosm and a microcosm. on a grander level, God is a microcosm of the multiverse of multiple creators, in which that multiverse is governed by multiuniversal laws which they call "god"....to infinity.Quote:
Originally Posted by V4D3R
but then going back to the "God's Introspection" concept... the ONE GOD may have created our God and other universe's gods out of himself, in order to experience multiplicity on a higher level.
i'm going to meditate on this this evening and come back.
i feel that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ikke
ironically the 3 major religions often get this wrong. the man in the sky concept has created more atheists than anything else.
^I'm pretty sure that's how it is.
Everything is in constant flux. There are infinite universes which are infinitely similar or infinitely different. Each one has a starting point and ending point. We're somewhere in the middle, and its so vast we really can't understand it as more then numbers and pictures.
This universe started as a super atom which was held together with a unified force of gravity, electromagnetism, and the two nuclear bonds. Unified they were enough to hold together such a massively dense particle but gravity wigged out and separated which tore the universe into being. That's why gravity is an inherent part of the material of the universe.
Anyhow, now our universe is expanding at FTL and won't stop until it overwhelms itself and dissipates into nothing. But its so massive this will be billions of years from now. So if there was a universal force in our universe that is godlike it would have it's own greater beings it views as Gods or cannot understand ad infinity.
Just as our understanding of our universe is limited by our maximum lifespan of a century give or take, our god is limited to understanding what is an infinite universe by his own lifespan of the universe which is very long, but limited.
Yep yep. And I'm thinking on this level to. One day we could possibly discover an evolved micro lifeform on the surface of something atomic/molecular size range. And vice versa - we may be a part of something bigger - and all this is happening - happened already and will happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by WUnded Fox
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Originally Posted by ikke
This is interesting.
God is a concept our forefather's invented to protect us from ourselves.
I do not pretend to know the nature of the creator.
Humans built the sydney opera house right? engineered it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
So logically something must have engineered us, we just have never seen it, but it does not mean it's not there.
Can you see bacteria? NO. It's still there though.
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Originally Posted by SHALLAH JUSTICE
bacteria is unseen ?
never knew that
God
We believe it's there - if it is, now what ?
our existence is iLL
as we get older, we cry less for our mothers
Can you spot E-Coli with the naked eye?
maybe not - eyes with clothes on can though
If you can "define" YOURSELF, then you can define GOD.
From the Quran, Chapter 112
Say: He is Allah, the One!
Allah, the eternally Besought of all!
He begetteth not nor was begotten.
And there is none comparable unto Him.
So in short, from the Islamic perspective, God is not a spirit, because a spirit is still a creation, and God is a creator, and not part of the creation, this is a very important concept in Islam and monotheism.
The Originator of the heavens and the earth; He made mates for you from among yourselves, and mates of the cattle too, multiplying you thereby; nothing like a likeness of Him; and He is the Hearing, the Seeing. Quran 42:11
So in short, there is nothing like Allah. Naught is as His likeness in attribute, knowledge, power and providence.
A book saying God is eternally Besought of all aint gonna convince no one.
Finally, something worth co-signing to.Quote:
Originally Posted by WARPATH
shem hetep.Quote:
Originally Posted by shallah justice
The definition of God that Gavin, and VADER outlined, to me at least, is not a viable definition outside a Wutang Clan forum.
In reality, the majority of people define God as a man, who is probably white with a beard, who can send you to Heaven or Hell, and promises you eternal life. Of course I've simplified things immensely right there, but the themes people believe about "God" are essentially the same worldwide.
That definition of God, and all the horrendous, manipulative bullshit that goes with it, is EVIL, and I can't support it.
But we didn't put the resources on earth, we just moved them around a bit. We didn't make anything. We're no different then the wind blowing sand into ultimately random patterns. They're temporary and irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHALLAH JUSTICE
God = Love.
close thread.
peace be with you !
The Original Connecticutatic Jewish Man is God.
Anoint this dick, heathens.
God is the source of all life and creation as we do and don't know it.
A building for example has a network of cables all feeding electricity to and from different parts of the building, they have computer networks that send data back and forth, they are structuarly engineered to fight and withstand the elements, they are a creationQuote:
Originally Posted by Robert
The same as us, we have cables (nerves) that carry electrical signals, we have neurons that carry data,we have an immune system to combat illness, we are engineered just like the empire state was.
The golden gate bridge did not appear out of nowhere, it was painstakingly engineered and designed, just like we are thats my "arguement" nothing more nothing less.
ahahaha
You should be funny more often Sunny, it will soften your image as a militant NOI Leader, to a more lovable freedom fighter.
you must be new
How about we all take a year to focus on asking the Creator what it is?
How about an international - We Demand answers prayer day....
its simple... GOD is everything. Period... he is the All in All no beginning or ending he just is and he is ALL.. We are the physical expression of God.. GOD is US