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What I feel about The Rza, and the 5%
Although I like his music (mostly his production) his ideology is unIslamic. RZA and many new york rappers are 5Percenters, which is a twist off of Islam which is actually very unIslamic. They've taken a lot of Islamic words, places, some of the principles and tried to make a so called religion. They refer to themselves (Black Males) as Allah, which is the ultimate sin in Islam, because ALLAH is the ONE Creator without any partners or human charateristics (ALLAH is not a man or a woman, ALLAH is the Supreme Creator that relies on nothing and no one). There are many "branch" off ideologies which have stolen principles of Islam and words of Islam or just twisted Islam in order to deceive and control people. Like 5Percenters, Bahai, Wahabi. They all have twisted the true faith.
The Muslim follows only The Holy Quran, the Holy Hadith (exact words of Hazrate Muhammad) and his Holy Family (12 Imams (Imam is the ultimate Islamic authority on earth, the Imam is a direct descendant of Hazrate Muhammad, one which is still alive today, the final Imam his name is Mahdi). We refer also to religious teachers at Mosques as Imams but there is a MAJOR difference between them and the Infallible Imams of the Holy Prophet's blood line.
Peace.
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peace brother... this has been established many times before
5%ers know that they are not muslims as such. they follow their own way and do not wish either to hijack any thoughts that muslims have.. they dont go about yelling at us or go 2 our mosques.. they stay peaceful and mind their own philosophies and they combine many ideologies not only Islamic ones that we do..
peace n blessings
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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the peoples practice of Islam ?
sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?
Idol worship " " " ?
Its not a sin that we label ourselves ALLAH
many don't know who or what ALLAH is or isn't
and your interpetation of the Quran cannot open your eyes to the real significance of the Nation of Gods And Earths
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Originally Posted by 7EL7
and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?
sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?
Idol worship " " " ?
Its not a sin that we label ourselves ALLAH
many don't know who or what ALL
AH is or isn't
and your interpetation of the Quran cannot open your eyes to the real significance of the Nation of Gods And Earths
Does your's offer any alternative. For what purpose is it to label yourself for what you are not?
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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?
nope, not at all.
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sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?
As in sun worship? I can remember that you don't worship nobody but Allah.
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Idol worship " " " ?
Cannot even describe one moment.
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Its not a sin that we label ourselves ALLAH
Who says? Does the Qua'ran say? Or does the Rza?
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many don't know who or what ALLAH is or isn't
Because people don't see him or know that he is closer than the Jugular is to the body.
Peace.
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The weakest mind always need guidance.
I don't need a religion to go trough life. I look into myself to see what life is about rather than an old book that made blood shed for centurys.
Faith is the number one causes of death.
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so is cancer and other diseases.. as well as political strides of people like bush...and the movements of ideas.. hijacked ideas of capitalism communism and many others..
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Does your's offer any alternative. For what purpose is it to label yourself for what you are not?
mines ?
Again, your interpetation of the Quran cannot open your eyes to the real significance of the Nation of Gods And Earths
who is this we that the Quran refers to when it tells you "WE gave you the book..."
can't tell me that thats just how yall speak in arabic either
ALLAH is in Plural Form in The Quran
Who was it that spoke to Muhammad in the cave ?
was it a Ghost
or was it a Black man names JabriEL ?
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Originally Posted by 7EL7
and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?
nope, not at all.
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sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?
As in sun worship? I can remember that you don't worship nobody but Allah.
How do you know when its Fajr prayer ?
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Originally Posted by 7EL7
Idol worship " " " ?
Cannot even describe one moment.
Why are they kissing,touching,and crying on this building ?
http://www.french-ital.ucsb.edu/clas...ecca-kaaba.jpg
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7EL7
and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?
nope, not at all.
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7EL7
sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?
As in sun worship? I can remember that you don't worship nobody but Allah.
How do you know when its Fajr prayer ?
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7EL7
Idol worship " " " ?
Cannot even describe one moment.
Why are they kissing,touching,and crying on this building ?
http://www.french-ital.ucsb.edu/clas...ecca-kaaba.jpg
Simply because they have compassion for the one person that allowed Islam to become Islam, dosen't suggest that he be, in any way shape or form, an idol.
And on fajr, it's simply prayer before sunrise. Its nothing as putting the sun as a god.
You must learn that everything dosnt require a complex answer. Simple enough.
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But who am I to say? My knowledge on Islam is very limited at the moment. Peace.
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Simply because they have compassion for the one person that allowed Islam to become Islam, dosen't suggest that he be, in any way shape or form, an idol.
And on fajr, it's simply prayer before sunrise. Its nothing as putting the sun as a god.
You must learn that everything dosnt require a complex answer. Simple enough.
No - you must learn to not mask wrongdoing with what feels good
people of other faiths do the same
when you approach them about them bowing to a statue of a cow,buddah or whatever
they'll say
"we are not bowing to idols, this is just a representation of the real thing"
when asked "how do you know when its fajr prayer"
your answer should be
"we know by tracking the movements of the SUN"
that would have been the simple answer
Sun worship was incorporated into the practice of Islam by Muhammads enemies
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But who am I to say? My knowledge on Islam is very limited at the moment. Peace.
lol, well you see there are many ideologies u will come to.. and u will learn from each.. just approach with caution.. appreciate the positive things and then start analysing.. through that ull see islam urself..
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Of course, I have said, in prayer facing the east BEFORE SUNRISE, I havn't said that you must face the sun during prayer. Although I can agree that sun worship has been incorprated into prayer by the enemies of Allah, but that is a good argument.
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lol, well you see there are many ideologies u will come to.. and u will learn from each.. just approach with caution.. appreciate the positive things and then start analysing.. through that ull see islam urself..
True, true, I will approach them cautiosly.
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Originally Posted by Epic_Man
True, true, I will approach them cautiosly.
but always remember.. there is good anywhere you may go in life!
also take whats good and leave whats not
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and just because you don't understand or argree with someone or something doesn't make it evil and sinful
those that think this way become the evil and sinful ones
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Originally Posted by 7EL7
and just because you don't understand or argree with someone or something doesn't make it evil and sinful
those that think this way become the evil and sinful ones
It's not that I don't understand or agree. If you were to put a bullet in someones chest, and later on, you don't turn yourself in, can someone say that wasn't evil or sinful? It's not because that I think it is sinful, its because it IS sinful.
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those that think this way become the evil and sinful ones
Please don't overeggsadurate(sorry for spelling),but in no shape, way or form will ever shall I become hence, an evil person myself. I'm simply trying to understand peoples opinions myself, and express some for myself as well.
Peace.
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maby in another 16 years you'll understand what i'm trying to explain
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in another 16 years
it is likely that who ever is reading this is going to be a part of somebody elses garden
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PEACE
actually saying the 5 percent is un-islamic is un-islamic...
If you are Muslim then you mostly follow prophets from the bloodline of Abraham......Quran states in sura 77 that "MESSENGERS" will come in the last day.........in fact your poisonus hadith and sunna also state that the Mahdi and Jesus will come in the last days.......so although Muhammad son of Abdullah is the last prophet, the Quran and your poison hadith/sunna state that Muhammad son of Abdullah is not the last human being sent by Allah......the Mahdi and Jesus is/are going to be human beings.......
The bible even gives us more insight into who these "Messengers" are going to be.....the last chapter of the old testament says ELIJAH will come in the last days...........and Revalations says that the Lion of Judah Root of David will open the book to release the seals........Abraham had a dream where his seed would serve a stranger for 400 years and afterwards come out with great substance.......according to the bible Moses ISrealites served 430 years.......thats not 400......1555 the first enslaved Africans arrived in the "new world"......in 1955 black people got equal rights.....thats 400 years........thats why ELIJAH MUHAMMAD and the Lion of Judah Ras Tafari was sent to the decendents of enslaved Africans in the USA and Carribean.........which brings me back to the initial point of this post......if you reject Master Fard Muhammad(the teacher of ELIJAH) or Ras Tafari then you are without a doubt un-islamic..................
jealousy is the only reason certain orthidox muslims attack the 5 percent......well jealousy and love of white people........
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plus the countless host in heavens ranks on earth
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is it the love of white people or white thought? Islam, being the submission to god's will, is the natural state of the righteous man. focusing on color is a means of seperation and a denial of an ultimate truth of our nature. man has been in that denial for quite some time but thinking that skin color is the problem isn't going to help anything. it's the traditional white mindset that fucks everything up and is the true enemy. that mindset can become native to any nationality or race and should be guarded against very carefully.
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so is skin color the only difference between black and white people ?
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I think it's the mindset of the individual that truly matters, color of skin should be irrelevant, even thought that is not the case, but it's traditional white mentality that causes that seperation, not skin color itself
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but what is the difference ?
is it just skin color that makes us different ?
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history makes us different, the reality, the absolute truth is that we are the same
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so if i colored a white/pink man with brown paint would he then be the same as someone who is brown ?
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he was the same before you ever broke out the paint if the mindstate was on an equal level
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mindstate ?
lets talk about nature
you wrote that islam is a part of our nature
let me quote you here so its out in the open
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Islam, being the submission to god's will, is the natural state of the righteous man.
2 words that stand out to me is natural and man
what is mans natural function on earth ?
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function? function implies purpose, our purpose is to understand ourself and understand our surroundings. man will not walk the path of discord forever, I would say that the natural man strives to walk a different path than the one the majority of the world walks upon. That is why I started the 5% thread earlier, the ratio they talk of seems about right, most of the world is brainwashed and needs to wake up.
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his natural function is to till the land for his food
how does this make us different ?
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who says we are different?
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who says we are different?
are you honestly telling us that there is no difference between black and white people other than skin color ?
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this is getting redundant, what I'm saying is that their is small-mined, ingnorant people and their are people who aren't, skin color shouldn't be nearly as important in society as it is. I realize there is a long and brutal history that has forced things down that path but you would be crazy to think that my mentality is anywhere close as that of a redneck in the kkk just because we're both white. in truth me and that ignorant fuck are worlds apart.
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thats not the answer to the question though
you already gave me an answer
you said there is no difference if the mindstate is the same
now i ask you again
Do you really believe that
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if the mindstate is same, then yes there is no real difference
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lets say that a black and white man had the same mindstate and they were both colored green
there would be no other differences ?
and you truly believe this ?
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obviously you don't because you keep asking the same question. So I'll ask you, if the mindstate is the same between a black guy and a white guy then what is the difference?
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good
ok i'll chose one of the many differences there would be and i say Hair
