Christianity and islam will always be enemies.

One thing ive learned from being in k.t.l and from debating muslims is, christianity and islam will always be enemies of each other, and this will never change...no matter how much people on each side try to sugar coat the relationship.... both christianity and islam are polarizing doctrines, who both claim to be the only true religion of God !!!!! so this means your either in one camp or your in the other, there are no two ways about it....fundamentalist christians will always hold to there belief that islam is a false religion until the day they die, and fundamentalist muslims will never embrace christianity no matter what.


So the battle lines have been draw in the sand...I guess it`s up to you which camp your in ????


p.s for all those who say they embrace all religions or don`t follow any religion don`t bother replying to this thread.


peace be with you !

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

One thing ive learned from being in k.t.l and from debating muslims is, christianity and islam will always be enemies of each other, and this will never change...no matter how much people on each side try to sugar coat the relationship.... both christianity and islam are polarizing doctrines, who both claim to be the only true religion of God !!!!! so this means your either in one camp or your in the other, there are no two ways about it....fundamentalist christians will always hold to there belief that islam is a false religion until the day they die, and fundamentalist muslims will never embrace christianity no matter what.


So the battle lines have been draw in the sand...I guess it`s up to you which camp your in ????


p.s for all those who say they embrace all religions or don`t follow any religion don`t bother replying to this thread.


peace be with you !

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First of all, FUCK YOU, I'll post where I damn well please, 2nd of all, You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Islam embraces Jesus but you're too fuckin ignorant to actual picking up a Quran to realize that, continuing on your bullshit quest to pass judgement on things you don't understand.

I'm about to return the favor. Except that I know exactly why I do what I do and what base I'm standing on as I pass judgement.

It will be fun to see what happens when the alien disclosure comes full circle.

"Battlelines drawn in the sand", "enemies", "which camp your in"?

That post of yours reveals the nature of your thinking, Prof.

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Originally Posted by FMJ

"Battlelines drawn in the sand", "enemies", "which camp your in"?

That post of yours reveals the nature of your thinking, Prof.

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Look lets be honest and tell it like it is...instead of dancing around the obvious.

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Originally Posted by visionz

"Love ya like a brother from another mother Ruka.

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Visionz I don`t know why you get all hot under the collar, you think im an idiot FINE !!!!!!.... but in the end this is just wu tang corp, not the united nations...there is no need to be so serious about things on here, in the end if people don`t like what I say, they can ignore it... I honestly don`t think when people log off and go back to there real lives, they even give my posts a second thought.


anyway peace be with you visionz ( even if you don`t except it)

peace

Prof, what denomination are you?

anyway, being an atheist, sometimes I even doubt whether or not atheists/agnostics have the right to get into religious debates, since it doesn't really concern them. then again, I have a hard-on for Islam, so I'll back their crazy ass

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

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Look lets be honest and tell it like it is...instead of dancing around the obvious.




Visionz I don`t know why you get all hot under the collar, you think im an idiot FINE !!!!!!.... but in the end this is just wu tang corp, not the united nations...there is no need to be so serious about things on here, in the end if people don`t like what I say, they can ignore it... I honestly don`t think when people log off and go back to there real lives, they even give my posts a second thought.


anyway peace be with you visionz ( even if you don`t except it)

peace

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you think you can log on and just pass judgement on people however the fuck you please without any consequence???? nope. You got a post in another thread you need to be responding to right about now. As advice, you better be direct and you better choose your words carefully. You talkin about beliefs and people's souls on the regular and you're thinkin there's no need to be serious huh? You can keep on walking with that bullshit.

Today's Judgement Day for you Ruka. The clock is tickin.

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

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Look lets be honest and tell it like it is...instead of dancing around the obvious.




Visionz I don`t know why you get all hot under the collar, you think im an idiot FINE !!!!!!.... but in the end this is just wu tang corp, not the united nations...there is no need to be so serious about things on here, in the end if people don`t like what I say, they can ignore it... I honestly don`t think when people log off and go back to there real lives, they even give my posts a second thought.


anyway peace be with you visionz ( even if you don`t except it)

peace

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If people choose to just ignore stuff on or offline, we will eventually end up in a situation similar to the Roman Catholic church of the middle ages.


A bunch of egotistical, power hungry people looking to control every aspect of our lives and any objection results in getting slaughtered.

This is thread illustrates why some non religious people harbour such hatred toward "people of faith".

Zooruka, you hold such vile animosity toward anyone who doesn't totally adhere to you're archaic tenants, you are the antithesis of what most religious people would aspire to be.

You are a hateful individual, and you'll probably be sweating it out in hell with me and fellow atheists.

Talking real shit huh Zooruka? I heard many leaders of muslim extremist groups have contemplated alot in jail and realised the darkness of their motivation to seek vengence on their human brothers hence they repent and actually teach some new inmates not to continue the cycle of violence.

When has there ever been a Christian leader who had the same thought?! They are certainly still sending out poor people to do their work for them so they don't have to feel guilty! I would like to see happens if I tie Tony Blair (he might be a secular like me?) on a chair and show him all the photos of the dead Iraqi childrens and play him videos of crying mothers who can only unleash their grief and anger by hitting themselves and ask god why this is happening?

You need to fucking look at yourself.

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

you are the antithesis of what most religious people would aspire to be.

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Im actually glad you say that because that means im doing somthing right.



peace be with you bateman !

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Originally Posted by FMJ

"Battlelines drawn in the sand", "enemies", "which camp your in"?

That post of yours reveals the nature of your thinking, Prof.

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this ^
its always been obvious, but i never knew if prof actually knew how hateful a person he is

When the savior comes, Zooruka will miss the boat. He'll be too busy looking for Jesus.

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

When the savior comes, Zooruka will miss the boat. He'll be too busy looking for Jesus.

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If god has un-conditional love for humans then he would be forgiven by god. But it seems to me that we have to forgive ourselves to live with ourself. Maybe thats what hell is? To die without forgiving other people for committing sin on you or your sin onto others or the grudge you have held. To die with bitterness and not love.

Either way it's great entertainment for those who realize it's all bullshit

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

One thing ive learned from being in k.t.l and from debating muslims is, christianity and islam will always be enemies of each other, and this will never change...no matter how much people on each side try to sugar coat the relationship.... both christianity and islam are polarizing doctrines, who both claim to be the only true religion of God !!!!! so this means your either in one camp or your in the other, there are no two ways about it....fundamentalist christians will always hold to there belief that islam is a false religion until the day they die, and fundamentalist muslims will never embrace christianity no matter what.

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this is why atheism is so great. we are not enemies with any religion. no wars in the name of god.

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

When the savior comes, Zooruka will miss the boat. He'll be too busy looking for Jesus.

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Prof, what fucking denomination are you?? and don't just say christian, there's a million sects

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

So the battle lines have been draw in the sand...I guess it`s up to you which camp your in ????

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man you belong in the 11th century, im sure you would have definitely answered the pope's call and joined the Crusade.

problem is the crusaders actually ended up respecting the Muslims, i highly doubt you would ever come to a point where you would try to understand the muslim faith let alone respect it.

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Originally Posted by Visionz

First of all, FUCK YOU, I'll post where I damn well please, 2nd of all, You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Islam embraces Jesus but you're too fuckin ignorant to actual picking up a Quran to realize that, continuing on your bullshit quest to pass judgement on things you don't understand.

I'm about to return the favor. Except that I know exactly why I do what I do and what base I'm standing on as I pass judgement.

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Wow. If I pick up the Quran again, will I be able to become as hateful and spiteful as you are in your post?

Actions speak louder than words. But even your words are hateful.

As long as the Islamic nation stays completely in denial of their retarded policies, and Christianity does the same, this stupid squabble will never end. Imagine Hellspawn trying to convince me that Islamic women are happy being covered head to toe in a black shroud in the middle of the fucking desert. Imagine the nerve of such a person. Then imagine Zooruka backing the Pope on his abstinence only policies of the unmarried. Imagine the nerve of that. Who do these people think they are? You're imbeciles. All religious people are. They need to believe in magical stories from 2000 years ago or else their life won't have meaning. Yikes.

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

One thing ive learned from being in k.t.l and from debating muslims is, christianity and islam will always be enemies of each other, and this will never change...no matter how much people on each side try to sugar coat the relationship.... both christianity and islam are polarizing doctrines, who both claim to be the only true religion of God !!!!! so this means your either in one camp or your in the other, there are no two ways about it....fundamentalist christians will always hold to there belief that islam is a false religion until the day they die, and fundamentalist muslims will never embrace christianity no matter what.


So the battle lines have been draw in the sand...I guess it`s up to you which camp your in ????


p.s for all those who say they embrace all religions or don`t follow any religion don`t bother replying to this thread.


peace be with you !

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Every time muslims colonised lands where christians lived, they were good to them (Spain, Jersalem, Egypt...) but every time muslims lived under christians they have been killed (Spain, Jersalem, North Africa, Chechenya, Afghanistan, ...). So who have a problem with who ?

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Originally Posted by prof zooruka

One thing ive learned from being in k.t.l and from debating muslims is, christianity and islam will always be enemies of each other, and this will never change...no matter how much people on each side try to sugar coat the relationship.... both christianity and islam are polarizing doctrines, who both claim to be the only true religion of God !!!!! so this means your either in one camp or your in the other, there are no two ways about it....fundamentalist christians will always hold to there belief that islam is a false religion until the day they die, and fundamentalist muslims will never embrace christianity no matter what.


So the battle lines have been draw in the sand...I guess it`s up to you which camp your in ????


p.s for all those who say they embrace all religions or don`t follow any religion don`t bother replying to this thread.


peace be with you !

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Solution is simple. Dump all religions. I did.

Important video, make sure you watch it!

I'm fairly certain The Prof is Catholic like me if a half dozen years without going to church counts...

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Every time muslims colonised lands where christians lived, they were good to them (Spain, Jersalem, Egypt...) but every time muslims lived under christians they have been killed (Spain, Jersalem, North Africa, Chechenya, Afghanistan, ...). So who have a problem with who ?

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That's like saying the Nazis were good to the Jews in Poland.

"Here, pin this gold star on your chest so it's easy for the police to identify you for your protection. There's been strange going ons of late and we want to make sure our Jewish neighbors aren't going to get kidnapped by those communists. Have you heard about the Polgroms in Russia? Terrible stuff. I wouldn't worry about it though. We Germans are here to protect you."

I'm not going to say that the Arab nations were worse then the majority of Europe, but that's because they're Eastern Mediterranean and still preserved the Greco-Roman Hellenism which got wiped out in the west. It's not like the Byzantines were savages either. It has little to do with Islam.

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this is why atheism is so great. we are not enemies with any religion. no wars in the name of god.

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Yes, atheism is great in that regard. But unfortunetly it's becoming a religion within it'self. I am not talking about sensible athiests that does not actively created inflammetory situation between it'self and other religions.

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Every time muslims colonised lands where christians lived, they were good to them (Spain, Jersalem, Egypt...) but every time muslims lived under christians they have been killed (Spain, Jersalem, North Africa, Chechenya, Afghanistan, ...). So who have a problem with who ?

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The ridiculous thing is that, it's not even "Christians" that are at war with Muslims. Rather mis-guided people who's religions were warped by "empires" that made use of the death of Christ.

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

As long as the Islamic nation stays completely in denial of their retarded policies, and Christianity does the same, this stupid squabble will never end. Imagine Hellspawn trying to convince me that Islamic women are happy being covered head to toe in a black shroud in the middle of the fucking desert. Imagine the nerve of such a person. Then imagine Zooruka backing the Pope on his abstinence only policies of the unmarried. Imagine the nerve of that. Who do these people think they are? You're imbeciles. All religious people are. They need to believe in magical stories from 2000 years ago or else their life won't have meaning. Yikes.

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Why do people listen to the pope about sex anyway, if he knows anything about it, he shouldn't...

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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

That's like saying the Nazis were good to the Jews in Poland.

"Here, pin this gold star on your chest so it's easy for the police to identify you for your protection. There's been strange going ons of late and we want to make sure our Jewish neighbors aren't going to get kidnapped by those communists. Have you heard about the Polgroms in Russia? Terrible stuff. I wouldn't worry about it though. We Germans are here to protect you."

I'm not going to say that the Arab nations were worse then the majority of Europe, but that's because they're Eastern Mediterranean and still preserved the Greco-Roman Hellenism which got wiped out in the west. It's not like the Byzantines were savages either. It has little to do with Islam.

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wikipedia:
Under Islam, Christians and Jews were recognised as "peoples of the book", and were free to practice their religion, but faced a number of mandatory discriminations and penalties as dhimmis.[14] (here it says numbers but this is really hypocrites because they only paid this tax like the muslims citizens, and that grant to them protection as they are free to not fight in case of war). Conversion to Islam proceeded at a steadily increasing pace. The muladies (Muslims of ethnic Iberian origin) are believed to have comprised the majority of the population of Al-Andalus by the end of the 10th century.[15][16]

With the Arab conquest, Jews were allowed back into the city.[58] The Rashidun caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab signed a treaty with Monophysite Christian Patriarch Sophronius, assuring him that Jerusalem's Christian holy places and population would be protected under Muslim rule.[59]


You can check what happened in the other case... historacal facts !!!!

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Originally Posted by Sean Bateman

You are a hateful individual, and you'll probably be sweating it out in hell with me and fellow atheists.

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haha nice one.