Human Evolution Theories

What do yall think humans will keep evolving into? or will we stop as we are now?

I've heard theories that we will become much shorter, with giant heads and be able to use a larger percentage of our brains to do stuff like comunicating telepathically and moving things with our mind.

But, also, human's have gotten much taller recently, like the average human height has grown 6 inches or something in just a few hundred years. We could keep growing taller and be a bunch of 9 foot giants or something

lemme hear your theories about what we will evolve into

some will evolve into who knows

it depends on what these people do with their everyday lives

if we sit on our asses all day 24/7

then the future will be born with no legs








we'll have no use for them

My theory is that aliens ( lil green men ) are really humans from the future experimenting with time travel ....

Many people say that humans have stopped evolving. I think that humans will be forced to evolve. I think there will be a need to deal with a much harsher environment. This theory only holds up if the environment doesn't get to trashed to extinct us all very abruptly.
Also, humans are bigger in general now because of the amount of nutrients we get. Especially at restaurants.
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I don't believe in evolution personally.

I believe spiritually we will evolve but not physically.

yeh i think we will evolve basically around our environment as most things do.

Lets just say in the future that the world was covered by water with no land ,we'd evolve gills or features like that to do with your envoronment yknow.

evolution is a fucking illusion

happened millions of years ago
still happening
but u cant feel the effect or see the effect for millions of years

rofl

classic
better than religion!!!!

the ability to take many forms will ensure immortality

imagine what those pretzel bboys 5 generations from now would be doin,they constantly pushing the purposes of the human anatomy to its limit

there is no way to predict.. evolution isa process driven by environmental stress.. our environment and living situations dictate the flow of evolution.. if one was to take a guess.. we would assume that humanity would become alot less physical in nature.. meaning a decrease in body weight and decrease in body height...

some studies have already shown that the human thumb is getting closer to the index finger over the last 80 years...

bullet deflecting skin, able to eat more fat food, born with clothes on.

LMAO if the world was covered in water we would evole gills?!

Do you know how unlikely that is? Its not possible. About as possible as fish coming on land.

I wanted to make an evolution thread but I don't think it could be discussed maturely...

I agree with soul controller...its a bigger con than religion...

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Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies

LMAO if the world was covered in water we would evole gills?!

Do you know how unlikely that is? Its not possible. About as possible as fish coming on land.

I wanted to make an evolution thread but I don't think it could be discussed maturely...

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its not entirely unfathomable.....there really is no limit to genetic variance under the control of environmental stress.. this is why we have a planet teeming with everything from electric eels to zebras.

when one doesnt really understand genetics and evolution its easy to dismiss what appears to be irrational but in actuality is quite rational and plausible

We will evolve from such things as radiation and chemical sensitivity that's in our environment
No one here will be able to see what actually does happen.......maybe. There will be cancerous or poisonous consumption and absorption every single day of people's lives. The ancient ones will still reside hardly harmed in the middle east and the commercial zones will do more damage to themselves.
Tribes will remain one with their long lasting life styles and continue an undisturbed nature until nature is burned, errupted, weathered, or catches a cold which for some reason isn't cured yet either.

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ACTUALLY it is totally unfathomable. Yeah the planets teeming with eels and zebras, but not fucking transformers.

Whens the last time an Eel came on land?

Wake up! Why is there not a single transitional form in the fossil record?

Not to mention a sea creature and a land creature have other differences besides a lung and gill.

Also there is no evidence of GENETIC VARIATION, as you call it, due to environmental stress, beyond the very small. It has never turned one species into another. The fossil record proves this. The only adaption due to environment is the elimination of faults in a species.

The genetic code is very complex and any MUTATIONS in it disrupt it and are ALWAYS harmful. There have been experiments on this with hundreds of thousands of fruit flies and not a single useful mutuation ever happened. What's more mutations are just stuff ups in a genetic code and aren't passed on to the next generation. If a guy is born with one hand deformed, are his kids? You will never hear of it.

Don't say shit on here with out referencing some evidence or I will hunt you down. :P

And if anyone here doesn't understand this shit it's YOU!

You sound like you got what your saying from your high school class.

Explain the lack of transitional forms in the fossil record for a start!

i have a Ph.D in Evolution subtle energy.. i know exactly what im talking about

evolution whether micro or mega is provable and verifiable. all genetic mutations are not harmful.

its a shame that in the year 2005 we still have to debate genetic variation

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Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies

And if anyone here doesn't understand this shit it's YOU!

You sound like you got what your saying from your high school class.

Explain the lack of transitional forms in the fossil record for a start!

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

i have a Ph.D in Evolution subtle energy.. i know exactly what im talking about

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lmao !

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Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies

ACTUALLY it is totally unfathomable. Yeah the planets teeming with eels and zebras, but not fucking transformers.

Whens the last time an Eel came on land?

Wake up! Why is there not a single transitional form in the fossil record?

Not to mention a sea creature and a land creature have other differences besides a lung and gill.

Also there is no evidence of GENETIC VARIATION, as you call it, due to environmental stress, beyond the very small. It has never turned one species into another. The fossil record proves this. The only adaption due to environment is the elimination of faults in a species.

The genetic code is very complex and any MUTATIONS in it disrupt it and are ALWAYS harmful. There have been experiments on this with hundreds of thousands of fruit flies and not a single useful mutuation ever happened. What's more mutations are just stuff ups in a genetic code and aren't passed on to the next generation. If a guy is born with one hand deformed, are his kids? You will never hear of it.

Don't say shit on here with out referencing some evidence or I will hunt you down. :P

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i agree with you that humans will never grow gills and shit like that, that kind of evolution would take billions of year, so therefore it is improbable but not impossible. one species cannot turn into another but a species can undergo adaptations in order to adapt to there surroundings. using the word mutation is incorrect if you are referring to a change which an aniaml undergoes to adapt to there environment, mutations are anomolies, thus they can't be considered as evolution.

on the question, human will just evolve to suit their environments, if this means becoming taller or having better eyesite or something like that then so be it. but human wont just grow giant heads and become giants overnight. evolution into human took millions of year so the probability of a complete change is unlikely unless there is some sort of outside disruption.
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LOL You have a degree in bullshit...

Ok show me then. Prove it


Transitional forms I asked for?

And a univeristy qualification doesn't necessarily means one knows what they are talking about...I am at uni....biggest joke ever lol..

Look at you with your THOUSANDS of books sold promoting the fact that evolution disproves the Existence of God....

Ignorant fool...

So in your book a call to sanity, you're saying what? Religion is INSANITY?

Based on this unfounded BULLSHIT you call evolution.

There is more scientific evidence for the existence of God than evolution.

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Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies

There is more scientific evidence for the existence of God than evolution.

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HUH ?

evolve into what flying tree swinging water breathing fur carrying marsupials? or use that brain to better cognicize the macro and micro cosm as to what where dealing with - so far mapped the solar systenm and beyond bore to the earth's crust laid out the elements of this planet the major life forms and sub divisions cracked the code for life dna wise can manipulate life forms or enviornments to suit physical/mental health -> but will never have any of what the peoples of ancient antiquity had some sembalance of what we call peace and/or cultivation of what they called supreme good -> instead people are tracked and geard to live life to the fullest - life is short live fast get rich or live dull and feel like shit - more a change of mind states then anything about darwinism.

are the so-called freaks a jump in evolution or some inside mischief created by nature as sees fit to either hint or tell of what could be or warn as to experiments unjustified? <- just a question

every time you learn something new you evolve


guess what happens to those who stop learning...

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Originally Posted by illstatiq.

i agree with you that humans will never grow gills and shit like that, that kind of evolution would take billions of year, so therefore it is improbable but not impossible. one species cannot turn into another but a species can undergo adaptations in order to adapt to there surroundings. using the word mutation is incorrect if you are referring to a change which an aniaml undergoes to adapt to there environment, mutations are anomolies, thus they can't be considered as evolution.

on the question, human will just evolve to suit their environments, if this means becoming taller or having better eyesite or something like that then so be it. but human wont just grow giant heads and become giants overnight. evolution into human took millions of year so the probability of a complete change is unlikely unless there is some sort of outside disruption.
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incorrect

evolution and mutation are one in the same thing.. ppl have this blown up misconception of what evolution really is..

no.. it doesnt have to take millions let alone billions of years (it could be seen to happen in about 1 year depending on the environment and the change hat occurred)

alll that evolution is a change in the genes/genetic pool of a species over a given amount of time (delta g divided by delta t)

the quickest way to get this genetic change/genetic variance/genetic diversity is thru genetic mustation... the public for some reason has some misconception about the word "mutation".. not all mutations are detrimental (humanity wouldnt exist if they were all detrimental).. some are quite beneficial and thus if coupled with aiding the environment allow forms of evokution to occur.

the vague general questions and statements being asked her are so off kilter that it owuld take about 300 pages of text to refute every little point and provide alleged "proof".. first i would have to explain and bring u up to speed on every concept that plays into genetics.. then make sure we are up to speed in every concept that plays into inhertiance.. nd then from their i must bring u up 2 speed on how exactly evolution and differential reproductive success works.. and im supposed to do that on a music forum when meanwhile.. 500 page books ar ewritten to address those issues..

better yet.. i have already begun this process.. check out my website

www.acalltosanity.com/evolutioneasilyexplained.html

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Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies

Look at you with your THOUSANDS of books sold promoting the fact that evolution disproves the Existence of God....

Ignorant fool...

So in your book a call to sanity, you're saying what? Religion is INSANITY?

Based on this unfounded BULLSHIT you call evolution.

There is more scientific evidence for the existence of God than evolution.

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nope thats not what its about

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Originally Posted by SubtleEnergies

And a univeristy qualification doesn't necessarily means one knows what they are talking about...I am at uni....biggest joke ever lol..

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very true!

but that coupled with years of experience in the field (let alone working in a discipline that only exists because it is based on the facts of evolution)

i deal with verifiable evolution every single day.. its what my whole career is based on..

its like an astronomer studying the "heavens" and then someone comes along with no real solid argument, but nonetheless comes along and says... "u know there is no such thing as stars right". its all bullsh*t

lol.. thats what ur doing... in a situation as such, (when a field is established and efficacious).. the burden of proof is on you! evolution has all the facts and evidence on its side and is well established.. any who claim otherwise have the burden of prooving their claim.. otherwise stop wasting everyone's time

NO, that's what you are doing.

Large parts of "science" is filled with gaping holes and evolution is one.

I wouldl ike to discuss this open mindedly with you, but you are avoiding the questions I am asking.

Would you be so kind as to solve them, as these are my doubts on evolution.

Im kinda w. SubtleEnergies cuz the same questions he proposed is what I usually do. Like they have this perfect systematic model of how a monkey became man (which I cannot believe I came from a monkey) but you never ever see anything like for example...what were the stages a rabbit went to before it was fully a rabbit. Or what was the monkey before it was a monkey? and the hope from an ape to man is a pretty large jump.

Even a cell developing flagella...thats a crazy mutation. I never heard of a human jes sprouting some form of a tail. But I dont have ne kind of ph.d, just observation

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Im kinda w. SubtleEnergies cuz the same questions he proposed is what I usually do. Like they have this perfect systematic model of how a monkey became man (which I cannot believe I came from a monkey) but you never ever see anything like for example...what were the stages a rabbit went to before it was fully a rabbit. Or what was the monkey before it was a monkey? and the hope from an ape to man is a pretty large jump.

Even a cell developing flagella...thats a crazy mutation. I never heard of a human jes sprouting some form of a tail. But I dont have ne kind of ph.d, just observation

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this is where formal study comes into play.. the evolutionary stages for horses, rabbits and almost every creatuyre u can name are indeed known..

its just that ppl dont talk about them because its not as controversial as monkey to man.

and btw most ppl dont c themselves as related to a monkey because of personal reasons.. not because of the evidence.. the evidence is there.. the fossil evidence is there and more importantly the MOLECULAR and GENETIC evidence is there!!! thats most important and cant be refuted ! so even if one wants to cling to a weak claim of a lack of fossils u still have to xplain the genetic and molecular evidence in favor of evolution!

the transition of eartly tetrapods to quadripedal mammals to what lead to the rabbit is well known and understood (RABBITS AND HARES ARE AN EARLY OFFSHOOT FROM THE "RODENTIA" CLASS).. its just that most of this stuff is only deeply discussed and learned in formal graduate level courses!

about cells and flagella.. the mutation isnt crazy at all if one understands the nature of biochemistry and what makes the flagella! one must undertsand that fully b4 understanding fow a flagella or even cilia come to be!

in modern science, all of these questions have already been put to rest

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You still have totally avoided what I said.

I asked for examples of transitional forms, and you go on to say "yes, transition of these animals is well known." Now, you are meant to have a PHD so stop playin dumb.

HORSES
Until recently, an imaginary sequences supposedly showing the evolution of horse was advanced as the principal theory of evolution. Today however, many evolutionists themselves frankly admit that the scenario of horse evolution is bullshit.

Evolutionist Boyce Rensberger delivere an address to 150 evolutionists saying horse evolution has no grounds in the fossil record and that there is no evolutionary process observed that would account for the gradual evolution of horses:

[b] The popularly told example of horse evolution, suggesting a gradual sequence of changes from four-toed fox-sized creature living nearly 50 million years ago to todays much larger one-toed horse, has long been known to be wrong. Instead of gradual change, fossils of each intermediate species appear fully distinct, persist unchanged, and then become extinct. Transitional forms are unknown.

The famous paleontologist Colin Patterson, a director of the Natural History Museum of England where the "evolution of the horse" schemes were on display, said the following about this exhibition which was still being shown to the public on the ground floor of the museum:

There have been an awful lot of stories, some more imaginative than others, about what the nature of that history really is. The most famous example, still on exhibit down stairs, is the exhibit on horse evolution prepared perhaps 50 years ago. That has been presented as the literal truth in textbook after textbook. Now I think that is lamentable, particulalry when the people who propose those kinds of stories may themselves be aware of the speculative nature of that stuff.


The horse evolution scenario was formulated by means of the deceitful charts that were devised by the sequential arrangement of fossils of distinct species that lived at VASTLY DIFFERENT PERIODS in India, South Africa, North America and Europe. There are more than 20 charts of horse evolution (Yo, Yeldell, that don't sound too well "known" nor scientific to me!). Evolutionists have reached no common agreement on the issue of these family trees, which are totally different from each other by the way. The only common point of these arrangements is the belief that a dog-sized creature called "Eohippus" that lived in the Eocene Period 55 million years ago was the ancestor of the horse. But, the supposed evolutionary lines from Eohippus to the modern horse are totally inconsistent.

Evolutionary scientist writer Gordon R Taylor in his book (Sold a few more copies than Yeldell's :)) :
But perhaps the most serious weakness of Darwinism is the failure of paleontogists to find convincing phylogenies or sequences of organisms demonstrating major evolutionary change....The horse is often cited as the only fully worked-out example. but the fact is that the line from Eohippus to Equus (horse) is very eratic. It is alleged to show a continual increase in size, but the truth is that some variants were smaller than Eohippus, not larger. Specimens from different sources can be brought together in a convincing-looking sequence, but there is no evidence that they were actually ranged in this order in time.




FUCK YOUR HORSE THEORY!
And as for that monkey shit, although you seem to be a transitional form I can list off 100 times as many reasons this theory isn't possible. Which I shall do later.
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Kennings....I will show you later how we did NOT come from any moneky....

And what they once said were our "Ancestors" are now admitted to be our cousins. Some even similar to modern races.

(No shit! Darwin was racist as all fuck)

evolution exists, at 4 weeks a fetus has a reptilian like tale. a link to the past

dna changes, humans have adapted and evolved since their conception

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evolution exists, at 4 weeks a fetus has a reptilian like tale. a link to the past

dna changes, humans have adapted and evolved since their conception

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yea, too bad we invented religion.... we would've been a lot further if it wasn't for this shit

peace

maybe, i personally feel religiuon is usually the scapegoat cus its inanimate but i in no way see it as important, to me at least