UFO/Alien Chronological Thread Directory.

[Fatal Guillotine]

Sept. of 1952, Kirtland AFB, Albuquerque, New Mexico
Afternoon. Radar detected a 700 m.p.h. target near Kirtland AFB which slowed to 100 m.p.h.. Two F-86's were scrambled. One fired on the UFO. Report ordered destroyed. Exact date unknown. (Ruppelt)

Sept. 1, 1952; Atlanta, Georgia (BBU)
9:43 p.m. Mrs. William Davis and 9 others saw a light, similar to the evening star, move up and down for a long period of time. (Berliner)

Sept. 1, 1952; Marietta, Georgia (BBU 2022)
10:30 p.m. Mr. Bowman (ex-artillery officer) and 24 others saw a red, white, and blue-green object which spun and shot off sparks. An unidentified witness using binoculars saw 2 large objects shaped like spinning tops with red, blue and green colors, fly side by side, leaving a sparkling trail for 30 mins. 15-30 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 1, 1952; Marietta, Georgia (BBU)
10:50 p.m. Ex AAF B-25 gunner saw 2 large white disc-shaped objects with green vapor trails fly in trail formation, merge, fly away very fast. (Berliner)

Sept. 1, 1952; Yaak, Montana (BBU 2023)
4:45 a.m. Visual sighting by 2 USAF enlisted men, radar tracking by 3 men using FPS-3 radar set. 2 small, varicolored lights became black silhouettes [of "dark, cigar-shaped object"?] at dawn, flew erratically. 1 hours. (Berliner; cf. Ruppelt p. 194)

Sept. 2, 1952; Tokyo, Japan (BBU)
Beginning at 2015 hours unidentified flying objects were picked up by the GCA unit at Haneda AFB and later contacted by GCI at Shiroi AFB. When first observed the target was 9 miles north of Haneda traveling at 40 to 60 mph on a heading of 90 degrees. During the next hour sightings were made on radar of targets ranging in number from 1 to 3. The targets produced a clearly visible echo on the PPI scope and about the size caused by a C-124 aircraft. (McDonald list)

Sept. 2, 1952; Chicago, Illinois (BBU 2025)
3 a.m. Radar controller Turason (GCA) at Midway Airport tracked 40 targets flying in miscellaneous directions, up to 175 mph, 2 targets seemed to fly in formation with DC-6 airliner. 8 hours total. (Dan Wilson, Berliner)

Sept. 3, 1952; Tucson, Ariz. (BBU)
9 a.m. Civilian pilots McCraven and Thomas saw a shiny, dark ellipse make three broad, curving sweeps. 1.5 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 6, 1952; Lake Charles AFB, Louisiana (BBU 2045)
1:30 a.m. T/Sgt. J. E. Wilson and 2 enlisted men saw a bright star-like light move about the sky. 2 hrs. (Berliner)

Sept. 6, 1952; Tucson, Ariz. (BBU 2048)
4:55 p.m. Ex-Congresswoman Mrs. Isabella King and Bill McClain saw an orange teardrop-shaped object whirl on its vertical axis, descend very fast, stop, retrace its path upwards, while whirling in the opposite direction. 1.5 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 7, 1952; San Antonio, Texas (BBU 2049)
10:30 p.m. Chemist J. W. Gibson and others saw an orange object or light (color temperature 2,000° F.) explode into view. 3-20 secs. (Berliner)

Sept. 7, 1952; San Antonio, Texas (BBU 2052) (NARA)

Sept. 9, 1952; Rabat, French Morocco (BBU 2062)
9 p.m. USAF Intelligence civilian illustrator E. J. Colisimo saw a disc with lights along part of its circumference, fly twice as fast as a T-33 jet trainer, in a slightly curved path. 5 secs. (Berliner)

Sept. 9, 1952; Portland, Oregon
Two oval objects observed in searchlight beam. [UFOE, XII]

Sept. 12, 1952; Allen, Maryland (BBU 2077)
9:30 p.m. GOC observers Mr. and Mrs. David Kolb using binoculars saw a white light with red trim and streamers fly NE. 35 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 13, 1952; Near Allentown, Penna. (BBU 2085)
7:40 p.m. Private pilot W. A. Hobler, flying a Beech Bonanza at 10,000 ft from Allentown to the Caldwell-Bright Omni station, saw a 3 ft object, shaped like a fat football, flaming orange-red color, at his 11 o'clock high position about 450-600 ft away descend at a 30° angle on a collision course, Hobler made a sharp climb to avoid it, object then pulled up in a 65° climb in front of Hobler's airplane, Hobler made a rapid 180° right turn but lost the object traveling at about 700 mph. 15 secs. ? (Berliner; NARCAP)

Sept. 14, 1952. Santa Barbara, Calif. (BBU 2086)
8:40 p.m. USAF C-54 transport pilot Tarbutton saw a blue white light travel straight and level, then fly up. 30 secs. (Berliner)

Sept. 14, 1952; North Atlantic between Ireland and Iceland. (BBU 2087)
Military personnel from several countries aboard ships in the NATO Operation MAINBRACE exercise. Sightings include a blue-green triangle flying 1,500 mph and 3 objects in triangular formation giving off white light exhaust at 1,500 mph. (Berliner)

Sept. 14, 1952; White Lake, South Dakota (BBU 2089)
7 p.m. GOC observer L. W. Barnes, using binoculars saw a red, cigar-shaped object, with three puffs behind it, fly W, then S, then was gone. 30-40 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 14, 1952; Olmstead AFB, Penna. (BBU 2093)
Time not known. Pilot of Flying Tiger Airlines airplane N67977 saw a blue light fly very fast on a collision course with the airliner. Note: the summary card attached to the file showed completely different information. (Berliner)

Sept. 14, 1952; El Paso, Texas. (BBU 2092) (NARA)

Sept. 14-15, 1952; Ciudad Jaurez, Mexico (BBU)
11:30 p.m. - 1:20 a.m. Consulting engineer R. J. Portis and 3 others saw 6 groups of 12-15 luminous spheres or discs, which flew in formations varying from arcs to inverted-Y's, very fast. 1 hr. 50 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 16, 1952; Portand, ME (BBU 2099)
6:22 p.m. Crew of U.S. Navy P2V Neptune patrol plane saw a group of 5 lights in circular formation at the same time a long, thin blip was tracked on radar. Note: Possible USAF KC-97 airplanes involved in a refueling operation. 20 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 16, 1952; Warner-Robbins AFB, Georgia (BBU 2100)
7:30 p.m. 3 USAF officers and 2 civilians saw white lights fly abreast at 100 mph. 15 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 16, 1952; Belle Glade, Florida. Circular object with row of lights on underside passed low overhead; cattle bolted. [UFOE, XII]

Sept. 17, 1952; Tucson, Ariz. (BBU 2105)
11:40 a.m. Mr. and Mrs. Ted Hollingsworth saw 2 groups of 3 large, flat, shiny objects fly in tight formations, the first group slow, the second faster. 2 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 19, 1952; Denmark and Norway
Spherical UFO photographed from U. S. Navy aircraft carrier participating in "Operation Mainbrace," NATO maneuvers. [UFOE, XII]

Sept. 20 [19? 21?], 1952; Topcliffe RAF Station, Yorkshire, England, UK. (BBU)
10:53 a.m. [4:14 p.m.?] Operation MAINBRACE Meteor jet fighter (flown by Flight Lt. John W. Kilburn and Flight Lt. Cybulski ?) was descending to land at 5,000 ft when they saw a slow-moving circular silver [or white?] object about 5 miles behind them at about 15,000 ft following a similar course then swinging like a "falling sycamore leaf" or pendulum and began descending.

As the Meteor turned towards Dishforth the object followed, then stopped falling leaf motion and descent, began rotation on its axis, suddenly accelerated at "incredible speed" faster than a meteor to the W then turned to SE [and disappeared]. Ground ? observers included Flying Officer Paris, Master Signaller Thompson, Higgins ? and 5 other aircrew [on the ground?]. (Jan Aldrich; Ruppelt pp. 195-6; 15-20 secs + ( NICAP; FUFOR Index)

Sept. 21?, 1952; North Sea near England, UK. (BBU)
Operation MAINBRACE sighting by 6 British pilots in a formation of Meteor jets who pursued shiny spherical object but lost it in 1-2 mins then it reappeared following one of the jets which turned to pursue but the object outmaneuvered the jet. Several mins. (Ruppelt p. 196; BB files??; FUFOR Index ?)

Sept. 22, 1952; Fairfax County, Va.
Police observed 3-4 UFOs maneuvering erratically. [UFOE, VII]

Sept. 23, 1952; Gander Lake, Newfoundland, Canada (BBU 2119)
No time shown. Pepperrell AFB operations officer and 7 other campers saw bright white light, which reflected on the lake, fly straight and level at 100 mph. 10 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 24, 1952; Charleston, West Virginia (BBU 2124)
3:30 p.m. Crew of USAF B-29 bomber saw a lot of bright, metallic particles or flashes, up to 3 ft in length, stream past the B-29. 15 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 24, 1952; Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (BBU)
7:45 p.m. USN crew of TBM-18 chased an orange light with greenish tail. (Weinstein)

Sept. 26, 1952; 400 miles NNW of Azores Islands (BBU 2126) [CCL Item # 22]
11:16 p.m. Pilot, copilot, engineer and aircraft commander of USAF C-124 transport plane saw 2 distinct green lights to the right and slightly above the C-124, at one time seemed to turn toward it, the lights alternated leading each other. 1 hr + (Berliner)

Sept. 27, 1952; Hempstead, Texas (BBU)
2 USAF T-33 pilots saw a white-silver circular flat disc flying erratically at 600-700 mph. (Weinstein)

Sept. 27, 1952; Inyokern, Calif. (BBU 2128)
10 p.m. 2 couples, using a 5x telescope saw a large, round object, which went through the color spectrum every 2 secs, fly straight and level. 15 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 28, 1952; Tsushima Island, Japan (BBU) (McDonald list)

Sept. 28, 1952; Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada (BBU) (McDonald list)

Sept. 29, 1952. Rochester, England, UK [?]. (BBU 2136)
3:55 p.m. Witnesses unknown, but report came via the Rochester Police Dept., of 2 flat objects hovering then speeding away. 3 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 29 [?], 1952. Aurora [Denver?], Colo. (BBU)
3:15 p.m. USAF T/Sgt. B. R. Hughes saw 5-6 circular objects, bright white but not shiny, circle in trail formation. [Same as Denver Sept. 30 case?] 5-6 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 29, 1952; Southern Pines, North Carolina (BBU 2140)
8:15 p.m. U.S. Army Res. 1st Lt. C. H. Stevens and 2 others saw a green ellipse. with a long tail, orbiting. 15 mins. (Berliner)

Sept. 30, 1952; Edwards AFB, California
Aviation photographer, others, observed two discs alternately hovering and darting around. [UFOE, VI]

Sept. 30, 1952; Denver, Colo. (BBU 2138) Same as Sept. 29 Aurora case?] (NARA)

NARA-PBB1-84 - October 1-15 Sightings
NARA-PBB1-85 - October 16-31 Sightings

Oct. 1, 1952; Shaw AFB, South Carolina (BBU 2142)
6:57 p.m. USAF 1st Lt. T. J. Pointek, pilot of RF-80 recon jet, saw a bright white light fly straight, then vertical, then hover, then make abrupt turn during attempted intercept. 23 mins. (Berliner)


2143 Oct. 1, 1952. Pascagoula, Mississippi. 7:40 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. C. C. McLean and another heard a loud blast and saw a round, milky-white object, shaped like a powder puff, hover for 5-10 mins then fly away very fast in an arc. 22 mins. (Berliner)

Oct. 1, 1952; Pascagoula, Mississippi (BBU 2143)
7:40 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. C. C. McLean and another heard a loud blast and saw a round, milky-white object, shaped like a powder puff, hover for 5-10 mins then fly away very fast in an arc. 22 mins (Berliner)

Oct. 7, 1952; Alamogordo, New Mexico (BBU 2150)
8:30 p.m. USAF Lt. Bagnell saw a pale blue oval, with its long axis vertical, fly straight and level covering 30° of sky. 4-5 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 10, 1952; Otis AFB, Mass. (BBU 2155)
6:30 p.m. USAF S/Sgt and 2 other enlisted men saw a blinking white light move like a pendulum then shoot straight up. 20 mins. (Berliner)

Oct. 11, 1952; Newport News, Va.
Ground Observer Corps spotter saw disc-shaped UFO with "dome". [UFOE, XII]

Oct. 12, 1952l Palo Alto, Calif.
V-formation of six apparent discs. [UFOE, V]

Oct. 13, 1952; Oshima, Japan
Air Force pilot and engineer saw round object in cloud formation; object became elliptical in appearance, sped away disappearing in seconds. [UFOE, III]

Oct. 15, 1952; Ashiya, Japan (BBU)
11:00 p.m., 15 October and at 2:00 a.m., 16 October, unidentified objects were sighted on GCA radar scopes at Ashiya Air Base. The objects presented targets similar to light planes traveling from north to south at 50-70 mph at altitudes from 200 to 500 feet. The objects appeared at a distance of two miles or less north or west of the runways. As many as as five targets appeared at one time. The objects were observed with radar set AN/MPN-1 (GCA) on both the two and ten mile precision scopes. (McDonald list)

Oct. 17, 1952; Taos, New Mexico (BBU 2171)
9:15 p.m. 4 USAF officers saw a round, bright blue light move from N to NE at an elevation of 45° then burn out. 2-3 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 17, 1952; Killeen, Texas (BBU 2172)
10:15 p.m. Ministers Greenwalt and Kluck saw 10 lights, or a rectangle of lights, move more or less straight and level. 5 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 17, 1952; Tierra Amarilla AFS, New Mexico (BBU 2173)
11 p.m. Military witness [at USAF radar site] saw a white streamer move at an estimated 3,000 mph in an arc. No further details in files. 20 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 19, 1952; San Antonio, Texas (BBU 2177)
1:30 p.m. Ex-USAF aircrewman Woolsey saw 3 circular aluminum objects, one olive-drab colored on the side, fly in a rough V-formation. One object flipped slowly, another stopped. 3-4 mins. (Berliner)

Oct. 19, 1952; (Pacific) 500 miles S of Hawaii (BBU 2175)
6:58 p.m. Crew of USAF C-50 transport plane saw a 100 ft diameter round yellow light, with a red glowing edge, fly at 300-400 knots (350-450 mph). 20 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 21, 1952; Knoxville, Tenn. (BBU 2179)
No time given. Witnesses at airport weather station saw 6 white lights fly in a loose formation, make a shallow dive at a weather balloon. 1-2 mins. (Berliner)

Oct. 21, 1952; Nr. Gloucestershire, England
RAF Meteor encounters UFO which was tracked by ground radar. 'They were circular and appeared to be stationary. But as we continued to climb they did in fact change position arid to make sure of that we very carefully checked and these things moved across to the right-hand side somewhere. The higher we got, [the more] they lost this circular effect [which appeared] when looking at them from underneath. As they came down to your level they lost the circular effect and took on a ""flat plate" appearance.' (Ridge/Aldrich)

Oct. 24, 1952; Elberton [Elberta?], Alabama (BBU 2184)
8:26 p.m. USAF Lt. Rau and Capt. Marcinko, flying a Beech T-11 trainer, saw an object, shaped like a plate, with a brilliant front and vague trail, fly with its concave surface forward. 5 secs. (Berliner; FUFOR Index)

FBI Memo dated Oct 27, 1952: Newhouse film "extremely credible".

Oct. 27, 1952; Gaillac, France
Hundreds of citizens saw 16 UFOs in formation surrounding a cigar-shaped object. "Angel's hair" fell. [UFOE, VIII]

Oct. 29, 1952; Erding Air Depot, Germany (BBU 2196)
7:50 a.m. USAF S/Sgt. Anderson and A/2c Max Handy saw a round object, silhouetted against a cloud, fly straight, level and smooth at 400 mph. 20 secs. (Berliner)

Oct. 29, 1952; Hempstead, Long Island, New York (BBU) [CCL Item #5]
2 a.m. 2 USAF F-94 jet fighter crews saw a white luminous object maneuvering at high speed, tracked on airborne radar. (Weinstein; BB files??)

Oct. 29, 1952; Richmond, Virginia
Venezuelan Airlines pilot watched luminous UFO speed past plane. [UFOE, V]. Rivas Case (AL)

Oct. 31, 1952; 4 miles S of Fayetteville, Georgia (BBU 2200)
7:40 p.m. USAF Lt. James Allen saw an orange, blimp-shaped object, 80 ft long 20 ft wide, appear to the N at treetop level about 600 ft away, traveling towards him about 60-70 mph, cross over his car (when his radio faded out) at about 500 ft height. He got out of the car and watched object linger overhead about 20 secs, then point its nose at 45° angle, accelerate and climb to disappearance in 30 40 secs to the E and slightly to right of the full moon (96° azimuth 35° elevation) at tremendous speed.1 min. (Hynek UFO Rpt pp. 191-2)

NARA-PBB1-86 - November 1-15 Sightings
NARA-PBB1-87 - November 16-30 Sightings

Nov. 3, 1952; Laredo AFB, Texas (BBU 2202)
6:29 p.m. 2 control tower operators, including Lemaster, saw a long, elliptical, white-grey light fly very fast, pause, and then increase speed. 3-4 secs. (Berliner)

Nov. [Dec.?] 4, 1952; Congaree AFB, Columbia, South Carolina (BBU)
(McDonald list)

Nov. 4, 1952; W Hokkaido, Japan (BBU)
(FUFOR Index)

Nov. 4, 1952; Caribou, Maine (BBU)
5:30 p.m. USAF pilot of T-6 saw a slow moving light of varying colors, stop and move. (Project 1947)

Nov. 4, 1952; Vineland, New Jersey (BBU 2206)
5:40 p.m. Housewife Mrs. Sprague saw 2 groups of 2-3 whirling discs of light fly toward the SE. 30 secs. (Berliner)

Nov. 8, 1952; Tierra Amarilla AFS, New Mexico (BBU)
At 6:05 p.m. MST, an unidentified radar target first appeared at 143 degrees and 45 miles from the radar station of the 767th AC&W Squadron heading outbound to a point 100 miles from the station. The object was traveling at an estimated speed of 600 to 1500 mph and an estimated altitude of 40,000 feet. The object then returned on the reciprocal heading to a point 65 miles from the station. The object then stopped and hovered for approximately 2 minutes and then proceeded outbound to a point 100 miles from the station. At this point radar contact was lost. The radar was an FPS-3 radar. The object was under radar surveillance for approximately 10 minutes. (McDonald list, FUFOR Index, Dan Wilson)

Nov. 12, 1952; Los Alamos, New Mexico (BBU 2219)
10:23 p.m. AESS security inspector saw 4 red-white-green lights fly slowly over a prohibited area. 15 mins. (Berliner)

Nov. 13, 1952; Ophiem, Montana (BBU 2220)
2:20 a.m. Crew of USAF 779th AC&W station tracked an unidentified target on FPS-3 radar at 158,000 ft altitude (30 miles) and 240 mph. 1 hr 28 min. (Berliner)

Nov. 13, 1952; Glasgow, Montana (BBU 2220)
2:43 a.m. U.S. Weather Bureau observer Earl Oksendahl saw 5 oval-shaped objects, with lights all around them, fly in a V-formation for about 20 secs. Each object seemed to be changing position vertically by climbing or diving as if to hold formation. Formation came from the NW, made a 90° turn overhead, and flew away to the SW. 20 secs +. (Berliner)

Nov. 15, 1952; Near Pyongyang, North Korea (BBU)
USAF pilot flying T-6 aircraft was circled 3 times by a 10 ft silvery sphere. (Weinstein)

Nov. 15, 1952; Wichita, Kansas (BBU 2224)
7:02 a.m. USAF Maj. R. L. Wallander, Capt. Belleman, A/3c Phipps saw an orange object (a blue streak?) varied in shape, as it made jerky upward sweeps with 10-15 sec pauses. 3-5 mins. (Berliner)

Nov. 15, 1952; Wichita, Texas (BBU)
8:25 p.m. USAF B 47 crew and passengers saw an elliptical blue-white object with orange or red tail, moving erratically. (BB Status Rpt?) [Same case as above??]

Nov. 16, 1952; Nr. Landrum, S. C.
Hundreds of people saw a huge disc, watched through binoculars by air-traffic controller. (UFOE)

Nov. 20, 1952; Salton Sea, Calif. 8:05 p.m. (BBU)
USAF pilot of B-50 saw a stationary light change color from white to red to green, then move SW. (Project 1947)

Nov. 24, 1952; Annandale, Virginia (BBU 2246)
6:30 p.m. L. L. Brettner saw a round, glowing object fly very fast, make right angle turns and reverse course. 1 hr. (Berliner)

Nov. 25, 1952; White Sands, New Mexico (BBU)
(McDonald list)

Nov. 25, 26, 1952; Panama Canal, Panama [CCL Item # 41]
6:06 P.M. to 11:47 p.m. Two objects traveling at an estimated speed of 275 mph were detected by radar attached to antiaircraft guns. The objects remained over the Canal Zone for 5 1/2 hours. Three Air Force bombers and a Navy patrol plane were sent up but were unable to catch the elusive objects. Maneuvering from 1000 feet to 28,000 feet in altitude. [NARA-PBB92-585; UFOE, VIII].

Nov. 26, 1952; Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada (BBU)
2:30 a.m. F-94 chased maneuverable disc that changed color from white [orange?] to red, as it climbed and turned. (McDonald list; NICAP; Project 1947)

Nov. 27, 1952; Albuquerque, New Mexico [S of Prescott, Ariz. ?] (BBU 2249)
12:10 p.m. Pilot and crew chief of USAF B-26 bomber saw a series of 20 ft black smoke bursts (4-3-3-4-3), similar to antiaircraft fire. 20 min. (Berliner)

Nov. 30, 1952; Washington, D.C (BBU 2253)
12:30 a.m. Radar 1 operators [?] at Washington National Airport. Radar trackings similar to those of July 26, 1952. Military witness(es) [?]. (Berliner)

NARA-PBB1-88 - December 1-15 Sightings
NARA-PBB1-89 - December 16-31 Sightings

December 2, 1952; CIA Memo
Chadwell Gives Director of CIA His Opinion. CIA knows what UFOs are NOT and is concerned.


Dec. 4, 1952; Colorado Springs, Colo. (BBU)
(McDonald list)

Dec. 4, 1952; Congaree AFB, South Carolina
At 8:42 a.m. EST, an object was sighted on an AN/MPS-5 radar set. The object was approx. 100 miles NE of Congaree AFB and traveling at 6000 mph on a southern course. The object stopped for one minute and then came directly back in the path it was moving, according to a statement by A/1C Clarence W. Ives. The length of the observation was 5 minutes. (Dan Wilson)

Dec. 4, 1952; Laredo, Texas (BBU) [CCL Item #1]
8:46-8:53 p.m. USAF pilot Lt. Robert Arnold flying T-28 trainer aircraft at 6,000 ft saw a bright bluish-white glowing object below him rapidly climbing to his level, showing no navigation lights. Arnold tightened his left turn to keep object in view, object suddenly climbed to 9,000 ft in several secs then dropped down to his altitude again headed E to 6 miles SE of AFB where it stopped and hovered.

Arnold pursued on SE heading but after 2 secs object suddenly headed towards him on collision course at high speed, wavering slightly at about 300 ft as if determining which side to pass the aircraft then heading off Arnold's left wing at 150 ft distance, at which point he could see object as a blurred reddish bluish haze smaller than his T-28, all of which happened too fast for evasive action.

Arnold in fear turned off running lights, spiraled down to 1,500 ft while keeping object in sight as object continued to head towards him in a dive then pulled up and climbed out of sight. 7 mins. (NARCAP)

Dec. 5, 1952; Lackland AFB, Texas (BBU)
8:48 p.m. USAF pilot of T-28 saw a blue light maneuver in a counterclockwise orbit then climb. (Project 1947)

Dec. 6, 1952; About 89 miles S of Louisiana in Gulf of Mexico (BBU) [CCL Item #8]
5:24-5:35 a.m. (CST). USAF crew of B-29 bomber at 20,000 ft tracked on radar 4 high speed targets on 120° heading at 5,000+ mph, followed by more targets moving SE. At 5:35 several (5?) blips merged into an arc about 30 miles away at 320° relative bearing and moved off the scope at 9,000+ mph. 11 mins. (McDonald; cf. Condon Rpt pp. 148-150; etc.)

Dec. 6, 1952; Angoon, Alaska (BBU)
9:15 a.m. (AHST). Air National Guard pilot saw 2 shiny spheres connected by a solid rod heading S. (BB Status Rpt)

Dec. 8, 1952; Ladd AFB, Alaska (BBU 2266)
8:16 p.m. Pilot 1st Lt. D. Dickman and radar operator 1st Lt. T. Davies in USAF F-94 jet interceptor (s/n 49-2522) saw a white, oval light which changed to red at higher altitude, fly straight and level for 2 mins on 240° course, then climb at phenomenal speed on an erratic flight path. After landing object could still be seen moving erratically, no noise, for 3 mins then took up 160° heading gaining speed while descending, becoming brighter red. 10 mins. (Berliner; cf. Hynek-CUFOS re-eval; Jan Aldrich)

Dec 8, 1952; Chicago, Illinois
Aircraft paced by row of unidentified lights. [UFOE, V]. Thorpe/Plowe (M)

Dec. 9, 1952; About 10 miles S of Madison, Wisc. (BBU 2267)
5:45 p.m. Capt. Bridges and 1st Lt. Johnson in USAF T-33 jet trainer saw 4 bright lights, in diamond formation, fly at 400 mph heading 130° or about SW at about 8,000 ft. They followed objects at 450 mph until passing (overtaking) them near 10 miles NE of Janesville, Wisc. (at 42°47' N, 88° 55' W) at 5:50 p.m., at which time they radioed the ADC 755th AC&W radar site "Soapberry," which could not detect objects, only the T-33.

Objects continued on 90° E heading and T-33 followed until breaking off due to low fuel at 5:55 about 10 miles W of Racine, Wisc. (at 42°45' N, 88° 0' W). No silhouette visible even when objects seen against Milwaukee city lights. 10 mins. (Berliner; cf. Hynek-CUFOS re-eval; Jan Aldrich)

Dec. 10, 1952; Pope AFB, South Carolina (BBU)
From 9:20 a.m. to 5:15 p.m. EST, a bright circular object was observed on a PPI scope of a CPS/5D radar. It was also observed on height finding radars. The blip was detected at 155 degrees azimuth at 8,000 feet altitude.The blip was also observed on search radar and height finding radar at the 728th AC&W Squadron, Fort Bragg, N.C. The object showed a slight circular movement. An F-51 aircraft was directed to investigate. The pilot saw nothing unusual. (McDonald list)

Dec. 10, 1952; Hungnam, Korea (BBU)
USN pilot flying aircraft in near-collision with orange fireball. (Weinstein; BB files??)

Dec. 10, 1952; Odessa-Hanford, Wash. (BBU)
7:15-7:30 p.m. (PST). F-94 crew spotted a light while flying at 26,000-27,000 ft and approached to identify it. Object appeared large, round and white with reddish light coming from two "windows," came at F-94 on collision course, F-94 banked to avoid impact, radar contact and/or lockon made multiple times on airborne ARC-33 radar. 15 mins. (Ruppelt p. 43; NARCAP)

Dec. 12, 1952
Brad Sparks:
Top CIA officials (Chadwell, Robertson, Durant) visited ATIC Project BLUE BOOK to obtain the withheld UFO investigation reports that Ruppelt indicated in phone conversation with CIA missile intelligence officer Frederick C. Durant III on Dec. 9 were being held back from CIA by orders of his boss ATIC Technical Analysis Division Chief, Col. Donald L. Bower, evidently acting at the behest of the AF Intelligence leaders, Gen. Garland and Dr. Stefan Possony. In other words an AF coverup to help conceal evidence of UFO reality from the CIA.

Col. Bower was blocking Ruppelt's planned visit to CIA in Washington, DC, to prevent him from delivering these reports showing them to be sensational cases (movie film, theodolite triangulation, landing case with burn injuries) but IFO's and not UFO Unknowns or best of the best, as the AF had falsely claimed in the briefing given to CIA on Nov. 25. Ruppelt's investigative reports would have undone too soon the false pro-UFO impression the AF had given to CIA -- the false "UFO" reports were intended to be revealed as IFO's at the CIA Robertson Panel to embarrass the CIA to stay out of AF business, and not sooner.

Col. Bower himself had given the deliberately misleading AF briefing to CIA on Nov. 25, falsely promising CIA the AF's "full cooperation," and bringing along the lower-ranking pro-ETH advocate Maj. Fournet whose participation was calculated to reinforce pro-ETH conclusions on the CIA. The AF briefing convinced the leaders of CIA/OSI (Office of Scientific Intelligence) that UFO's were extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Ruppelt gave the CIA team led by Dr. H. Marshall Chadwell (director of CIA/OSI and now convinced of the ET origin of UFO's) dozens of additional "best UFO" reports to study but in fact they were all IFO cases designed to blow up in CIA faces at the Robertson Panel. Ruppelt completely withheld from CIA, and concealed the existence of, his special file of more than 63 Best Unexplained UFO cases, no doubt by direct orders of Col. Bower, whose name keeps popping up in the story of devious AF coverups on UFO's in 1952. (Brad Sparks)

Dec. 14, 1952; Charlottesville, Virginia (BBU)
11:45 a.m. (EST). Aeronautical engineer former test pilot saw a light orange elliptical shaped object, hovering then move NE at extreme speed, 1,000+ mph estimated. Object gave off discharge that changed brightness when object moved; debris lofted in the air apparently by the object. (Hynek-CUFOS re-eval; Jan Aldrich)

Dec. 15/16, 1952; Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada (BBU) [CCL Item #7]
7:15 PM. Two Air Force crews got a momentary radar lock on a strange object. One pilot had seen similar object before, on November 26, 1952. Visual contact was made by two aircraft, a T-33 and an F-94, of an unidentified aerial object after being vectored to the target by Ground Control Appoach (GCA). We had been seeking further details on this case and Dan Wilson located files in the Project Blue Book Archive (See below). This was a USAF Intelligence Report and was item #7 on the official clearance list of sightings to Major Donald Keyhoe from Al Chop, Air Force Press Desk. (Fran Ridge)

Dec. 15, 1952; Honshu, Japan (BBU)
8:54 p.m. local time. An unidentified track appeared on the Early Warning Ground Radar Site #24. It was a large blip and estimated to be more than one target. The estimated speed of the target was 1320 mph. The radar being used was the AN/TPS-1C. The target was seen on the first, second and fourth sweeps of the antenna. The antenna speed was 2 rpm. (Dan Wilson, McDonald list)

Dec. 15, 1952; Greensboro [Hurstville?], North Carolina (BBU)
9:15 a.m. USAF pilot of RF-80 saw a bright circular or spherical silvery object, losing and gaining altitude. (Project 1947)

Dec. 17, 1952, San Diego, Cal. (BBU)
Four members of the U.S. Navy Electronics Laboratory at San Diego, observed two or more objects described as cigar or disc shaped that emanated bright light in smooth flight. The speed of the objects was described as being from the speed of a present day jet aircraft to 1500 miles per hour. One witness said he saw later five of six of these things orbiting in a small area.

Dec. 18, 1952; Itazuke AFB, Japan
8:28 a.m. local time. Five plots were observed on an AN/MPS-5 radar scope with an average speed 710 knots. The course from initial plot was 270 degrees varying to 312 degrees. The target size was approximately that made by a B-29 type aircraft. Successive tracks indicated an increase of speed ranging from 300 knots on initial pickup to an estimated 1040 knots on the 4th pickup. The length of the observation was 9 minutes. (Dan Wilson)

Dec. 18, 1952; Oak Ridge, Tennessee
Cat 9. Radar-visual (NICAP source)

Dec. 18, 1952
Brad Sparks:
Dr. H. Marshall Chadwell, director of the CIA Office of Scientific Intelligence (OSI), notifies the DCI (Director of Central Intelligence) Gen. Walter Bedell Smith, that the Robertson Panel was being postponed (indefinitely or to at least March 1953 or later) in order to give the AF contractor Battelle Memorial Institute enough time to complete its statistical study of all of Blue Book's UFO case files. In meeting with Chadwell at Blue Book on Dec. 12 Battelle's Dr. Howard Cross had pleaded with CIA to postpone the Robertson Panel so Battelle would have time to finish its study and Chadwell and Robertson agreed to do so. (But within days, evidently after getting pressure from the AF, the DCI overruled the postponement and put it back on the fast track for the AF-manipulated rush to judgment.) (Brad Sparks)

Dec. 19, 1952; Anderson AFB, Guam (BBU)
6:50 [8:50?] a.m. USAF crew of B-17 bomber and ground witnesses saw a silvery cylindrical object. (BB Status Rpt)

Dec 22, 1952
Brad Sparks:
Ruppelt found out the CIA Robertson Panel was back on again after being shelved the previous two weeks. Apparently under pressure from the AF which was setting a trap to embarrass the CIA with sensational IFO cases dressed up as "best" Unknown UFO cases, the CIA Director, Gen. Walter Bedell Smith, reversed CIA/OSI's decision to postpone the Panel meeting till March 1953 or later. DCI Smith ordered the Robertson Panel to be carried out immediately (as the AF had ordered through the IAC).

Thus a rush-to-judgment Panel would have no time to reflect on the AF trickery involved in the IFO's-as-UFO's deception and would just react in dismissive skepticism that there was no scientific evidence for UFO reality, and hence no reason for CIA to intrude into the AF's jurisdiction over air intelligence matters such as unidentified aerial threats (UFO's). Ruppelt called ADC (Air Defense Command) to say that he would not be able to conduct the ADC UFO briefing tour as previously scheduled, due to the CIA meeting now tentatively set in early Jan. 1953 (he confirmed the call by teletype Dec 23). (Brad Sparks)

Dec. 22, 1952; Larson AFB, Moses Lake, Wash. [??] (BBU)
7:30 p.m. Instrument technician stopped his car to watch a hat-shaped glowing object rising vertically in odd spurts right and left, then level off at high speed, glowing white with a red side when rotated, and halfway through a roll no light, then held stationary in the sky with jumpy movements, S of Jupiter (which was to the SSE at about 151° azimuth 53° elevation). 15 mins. (Battelle Unknown No. 6)

Dec. 24, 1952; Camp Carson, Colo. (BBU)
(McDonald list)

Dec. 24, 1952; Dallas, Texas
At 12:15 p.m. CST, an object was observed on an AN/APG-41 gun laying radar and AN/APS-23 navigation radar on an airborne B-36 aircraft at 40 miles east to 80 miles NE of Dallas, Texas. The target was detected on both north and south headings at 40,000 feet and on a descent to 15,000 feet. The target was tracked at a distance of 2000 to 4000 yards. The AN/APS-23 presentation of the phenomenon was similar to recent release of PPI photographs of sightings made over Washington D.C. The AN/APG-41 radar was instrumented with an 0/15 camera.

Film was taken, although not clear, it does indicated the presence and trackability of the phenomenon. The Air Intelligence Information Report on this incident states, "Its behavior of attempting to remain 2000 to 4000 yards in front of the B-36 during descent from 40,000 to 15,000 feet was unexplainable, and seemed to indicate that something intelligent was guiding it." The total length of observation was 30 minutes. The operator of the AN/APS-23 radar said on several occasions he detected other targets and they were very sharp. (Dan Wilson, BB Files)

Dec. 28, 1952; Marysville, Calif. (BBU 2302)
Civilian witness(es). Case missing. (NARA)

Dec. 28, 1952; Albuquerque, New Mexico (BBU)
11:09 [9:16?] p.m. Military pilot saw an elongated cigar like object the size of a medium bomber traveling E to W. 12 secs. (BB Status Rpt; FUFOR Index)

Dec. 29 [28?], 1952; Chitose AFB [Misawa AFB? Hokkaido?], Japan (BBU) [CCL Item#13]
7:30 [7:39? 7:48?] p.m. USAF crews of B-26 (Ashley and Wood) and F-84G (Col. Howard Blakeslee) saw object emitting 3 beams of light and tracked on airborne radar. 7 mins. (Weinstein; FUFOR Index)

Dec. 29, 1952; 35 miles W of Amarillo near Vega, Texas and ESE of Tucumcari, New Mexico (BBU)
9:05 p.m. (CST). USAF Capt. William T. Bowley and Capt. Herbert T. Lange, both of Perrin AFB, Texas, piloting a B-26 on a training flight headed W at 257° at 6,000 ft altitude and 250 knots (300 mph) saw a extremely large and intense bright round bluish-white light with frequent green tints, no trail or exhaust or aerodynamic features, about 3x the size of a C-54 (or about 350 ft) at a distance of possibly 40 miles at their 11 o'clock position paralleling their course at about the same altitude 6,000 ft heading forward but closing with the B-26. After 5 mins object suddenly climbed vertically 7,000 ft in 5 secs [1,400 ft/sec average, or peak velocity about 2,000 mph at about 17 g's] to disappear in thin broken overcast clouds at 13,000 ft and causing the clouds to glow as if lit by searchlight.

Bowley radioed the CAA controller in Tucumcari, N.Mex. Shortly after, the object reappeared under the clouds, the CAA controller was told to look for it but couldn't see it [probably because he was told to look in the wrong direction, to the SW, or it was obscured by clouds], after 2 mins it climbed to the W and disappeared. 7-10 mins. (Jan Aldrich)

Dec. 30, 1952; Terrigal, New South Wales, Australia (BBU)
12 noon. RAAF Wing Commander Tomkins and wife and child [Alexander?] saw an extremely brilliant carbon-arc bright object to the E about 7.5° elevation in very slow level flight to the left or N for about 1 min over about 8° of arc, estimated at about 2,000 ft height and 2 miles away. Object suddenly turned E and departed away from the observers at high speed disappearing in about 20 secs. 1 min 20 secs. (Jan Aldrich; FUFOR Index)

Dec. 31, 1952; NE of Ramey AFB, Puerto Rico. (BBU)
4:50 [4:45?] a.m. USAF crew of RB-36 saw a large red orange ball of light pass the plane. (Weinstein; FUFOR Index

Winter of 1952-1953; Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada
11:00 PM+- A target appeared on the radar screen. It was located about ninety miles out and approaching from the north at an approximate speed of ninety mph. The radar in use was not equipped with any method of measuring altitude, so the height of the target could not be determined. The fact that the target was approaching from due north (0 degrees on the radar screen) was very unusual since no military or civilian airfields were located in that direction. Its slow speed of travel was equally strange. Most aircraft that approached Goose Bay from a northerly direction were flights coming in from Thule, Greenland. where the United States was building an air base and radar site. The azimuth direction of such flights, as displayed on the radar screen, was about 045 degrees. (RADCAT)

Turning Point in UFO History - Richard Hall http://www.nicap.org/waves/turnpoint.htm

The summer 1952 UFO sighting wave was one of the largest of all time, and arguably the most significant of all time in terms of the credible reports and hardcore scientific data obtained. Electromagnetic (EM) effects and physical trace evidence were more prominent in other waves, but 1952 (and 1953) featured recurring radar detection of UFOs, often from both ground and airborne radar, visual sightings by jet interceptor pilots sent up to pursue the mysterious objects, and cat-and-mouse chases in which the UFOs seemed to toy with the interceptors.

Other References:
1. Edward J. Ruppelt - Summer of the Saucers - 1952, Intro, XIII (Mike Hall & Wendy Connors)


Back to NICAP Chronology Home Page http://www.nicap.org/chrono.htm

Back to NICAP Home http://www.nicap.org/

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UFOs over DC in 1952, RESTRICTED AIR SPACE, Jets Scrambled;




It started with a National Airlines crew sighting on July 13th, about 60 miles SW of the city, and then continued for a week, with more sightings and radar returns each day for the next week, through the 20th.

It started again on the 25th, this time with Air Route Traffic Control radar picking up numerous UFOs (and multiple such incidents that day), and another National Airlines crew sighting. This continued this time for 4 more days, through the 29th.

You can view an excellent timeline of events here…(complete with sources)
http://www.project1947.com/fig/1952d.htm

The following is an excerpt from the Washington Post for July 28th:




Two other radar screens in the area picked up the objects.An employee of the National Airport control tower said the radar scope there picked up very weak "blips" of the objects. The tower radar's for "short range" and is not so powerful as that at the center. Radar at Andrews Air Force Base also registered the objects from about seven miles south of the base.

A traffic control center spokesman said the nature of the signals on the radar screen ruled out any possibility they were from clouds or any other "weather" disturbance.

"The returns we received from the unidentified objects were similar and analogous to targets representing aircraft in flight," he said.

The objects, "flying saucer or what have you, appeared on the radar scope at the airport center at 9:08 PM. Varying from 4 to 12 in number, the objects appeared on the screen until 3:00 AM., when they disappeared.

AT 11:25 PM., two F-94 jet fighters fro Air Defense Command squadron, at New CAstle Delaware, capable of 600 hundred mph speeds, took off to investigate the objects.

Airline, civil and military pilots described the objects as looking like the lit end of a cigarette or a cluster of orange and red lights.

One jet pilot observed 4 lights in the vicinity of Andrews Air Force Base, but was not able to over-take them, and they disappeared in about two minutes.

The same pilot observed a steady white light in the vicinity of Mt Vernon at 11:49 PM. The light, about 5 miles from him, faded in a minute. The lights were also observed in the Beltsville, MD., vicinity. At 1:40 AM two-other F-94 jet fighters took off and scanned the area until 2:20 AM., but did not make any sightings.


Ed Ruppelt himself (head of Project Bluebook at the time, now a UFOlogist and author whose gone on record that Bluebook was a coverup) was actually likely involved somewhat in this case, as the paper points out.


he same source reported an expert from the Air Technical Intelligence Center at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton Ohio, was here last week investigating the objects sighted July 19.

The expert has been identified as Capt. E. J. Ruppelt. Reached by telephone at his home in Dayton yesterday, Ruppelt said he could make no comment on his activity in Washington.

Capt. Ruppelt confirmed he was in Washington last week but said he had not come here to investigate the mysterious objects. He recalled he did make an investigation after hearing of the objects, but could not say what he investigated.


Here is the transcript of the tower conversation from the Washington National air controllers to the Andrews AFB controllers…http://ufocasebook.com/washingtondc1952.html



Washington: Andrews Tower, do you read? Did you have an airplane in sight west-northwest or east of your airport moving east-bound?

Andrews: No, but we just got a call from the center. We're looking for it.

Washington: We've got a big target showing up on our scope. He's just coming in on the west edge of your airport-the northwest edge of it eastbound. He'll be passing right through the northern portion of your field on an east heading. He's about a quarter of a mile from the northwest runway-right over the edge of your northwest runway now.

Andrews: What happened to your target now?

Washington: He's still eastbound. He went directly over Andrews Fields and is now five miles east.

Andrews: Where did he come from?

Washington: We picked him up ourselves at about seven miles east, slightly southeast, and we have been tracking him ever since then. The Center has been tracking him farther than that.

Andrews: Was he waving his course?

Washington: Holding steady course, due east heading.

Andrews: This is Andrews. Our radar tracking says he's got a big fat target out here northeast of Andrews. He says he's got two more south of the field.

Washington: Yes, well the center has about four or five around the Andrews Range station. The Center is working a National Airlines - the center is working him and vectoring him around his target. He went around Andrews. He saw one of them - looks like a meteor. (Garbled)..Went by him..or something. He said he's got one about three miles off his right wing right now. There are so many targets around here it is hard to tell as they are not moving very fast.

Andrews: What about his altitude?

Washington: Well, must be over 8,000 feet as we don't have him in radar any more.


From controllers at Washington National:http://www.subversiveelement.com/UFOWashingtonDC.html




In the control tower at Washington National Airport, Ed Nugent saw seven pale violet blips on his radar screen. What were they? Not planes -- at least not any planes that were supposed to be there.

He summoned his boss, Harry G. Barnes, the head of National's air traffic controllers. "Here's a fleet of flying saucers for you," Nugent said, half-joking.

Upstairs, in the tower's glass-enclosed top floor, controller Joe Zacko saw a strange blip streaking across his radar screen. It wasn't a bird. It wasn't a plane. What was it? He looked out the window and spotted a bright light hovering in the sky. He turned to his partner, Howard Cocklin, who was sitting three feet away.

"Look at that bright light," Zacko said. "If you believe in flying saucers, that could sure be one."

And then the light took off, zooming away at an incredible speed.

"Did you see that?" Cocklin remembers saying. "What the hell was that?"

It was Saturday night, July 19, 1952 -- 50 years ago this weekend -- one of the most famous dates in the bizarre history of UFOs. Before the night was over, a pilot reported seeing unexplained objects, radar at two local Air Force bases -- Andrews and Bolling -- picked up the UFOs, and two Air Force F-94 jets streaked over Washington, searching for flying saucers.

Then, a week later, it happened all over again --more UFOs on the radar screen, more jets scrambled over Washington. Across America, the story of jets chasing UFOs over the White House knocked the Korean War and the presidential campaign off the front pages of newspapers.


Other Headlines included such papers as the New York Daily News “Jets Chase D.C. Sky Ghosts”, or the Washington Daily News’ “Aerial Whatzits buzz D.C. Again!”, the Washington Post’s “Radar Spots Air Mystery Objects Here”, or the Washington Daily News’ “Air Force ‘Saucer’ Expert Will Probe Sightings Here”. (referring to an unwitting Ruppelt), or the Cedar Rapids Gazette’s “Saucers Swarm Over Capital”.

Here’s some info about the second incident, and the jets scrambled…


The controllers called for interceptors, and about 11 p.m. the Air Force dispatched F-94s to search the sky over Washington. When the first jets arrived, the blips disappeared from National's radar screens and the F-94 pilots saw nothing unusual. But when they returned to New Castle, the blips returned to the radar screens.

About 1:30 a.m., the jets soared back over Washington. This time, pilots saw several strange lights. One pilot gave chase but he couldn't catch the streaking light.

"I tried to make contact with the bogies below 1,000 feet," pilot William Patterson told investigators. "I was at my maximum speed but . . . I ceased chasing them because I saw no chance of overtaking them."




The “official” explanation given at the time was “temperature inversions” on radar. The press accepted it and let the story die. The radar operators knew better, and plainly stated that they were well aware of such things and how they appeared on radar. Also, nevermind the fact that the objects were also sighted visually by pilots (both civilian and military), and the blips confirmed by numerous radar tracking stations, and even photographed! Even Bluebook eventually dismissed the temperature inversion explanation, and the sightings remain listed in the “unknown” category.


Its hard to believe how the press can be so gullible to accept something like that.And also for the White House to make idiots out of the radar operators

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The Kinross Incident;

The Kinross Incident
quote;

"In 1953, a UFO was detected on radar near Kinross AFB, Michigan. A Northrop F-89C Scorpion (assigned to the 433rd Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Traux Field, Madison WI) was scrambled from Kinross AFB and sent to intercept and identify this target. Radar controllers watched as the F-89 closed in on the UFO, and then sat stunned in amazement as the two blips merged on the screen, and the UFO left. The F-89 and it’s two man crew (Pilot First Lieutenant Felix E. Moncla, Jr, and Radar Observer Second Lieutenant Robert L. Wilson) were never found, even after a thorough search of the area"





F-89C Scorpion;

The Air Force description of the crash is as follows (from their Accident Report, sent via FOIA to CUFON)

quotes;
"Aircraft took off at 2322 Zebra 23 Nov 53 on an active Air Defense Mission to intercept an unknown aircraft approximately 160 miles Northwest of Kinross Air Force Base. The aircraft was under radar control throughout the interception. At approximately 2352 Zebra the last radio contact was made by the radar station controlling the interception.

" At approximately 2355 Zebra the unknown aircraft and the F-89 merged together on the radar scope. Shortly thereafter the IFF signal disappeared from the radar scope. No further contact was established with the F-89. < Approximately 16 characters followed by one whole line (of approx. 83 characters including spaces) excised > An extensive aerial search has revealed no trace of the aircraft. The aircraft and its crew is still missing;"


"First, the account given is that the UFO was a Canadian airliner, a DC-3 to be exact".

"However, they then later (in a separate page from the official report, sent along with the Air Accident Report) assert that the UFO was now identified as an RCAF C-47" :


"The unknown aircraft being intercepted was a Royal Canadian Air Force Dakota (C-47), Serial No. VC-912, flying from Winnipeg to Sudbury, Canada. At the time of interception, it was crossing Northern lake Superior from west to east at 7,000 feet."

"The pilot and radar observer were assigned to the 433rd Fighter-interceptor Squadron, Truax AFB, Wisconsin. They were on temporary duty at Kinross AFB, Michigan, while the base’s regularly assigned personnel were firing gunnery at Yuma, Arizona. The pilot had a total of 811:00 hours of which 121:40 hours were in F-89 type aircraft. He had 101:00 instrument hours and 91:50 hours night time. The radar observer had a total of 206:45 hours of which 11:30 hours were at night."

"Search for the missing aircraft was conducted by both USAF and RCAF aircraft without success. Although 80 per cent area coverage was reported, heavy snows precluded effective land search. All civilian reports of seeing or hearing the aircraft were investigated with negative results".


"The full reports can be read here: (they also include a detailed account of the search effort) http://www.cufon.org/kinross/Kinross_acc_rept.htm




"However, when contacted by NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena), the RCAF (Royal Canadian Air Force) denies they had any such plane intercepted by the USAF (United States Air Force)."

"Royal Canadian Air Force letter denying involvement, to NICAP".


"Thank you for your letter of April 4 requesting information regarding an 'Unidentified Flying Object' on November 23, 1953.
"A check of Royal Canadian Air Force records has revealed no report of an incident involving an RCAF aircraft in the Lake Superior area on the above date." (Flight Lt. C. F. Page, for Chief of the Air Staff, RCAF, to Jon Mikulich, 4-14-61).


So the USAF claims the UFO as an RCAF plane, even identifying a specific craft, but the RCAF flatly denies any such incident in the area. Also, the USAF fails to acknowledge just how such an identification was made, since there is no radio confirmation of this. While it is conceivable that the F-89 crashed, and for any variety of reasons, it is indeed strange that this crash happened at the exact moment of the blips merging on the radar screen. Also, it’s even more strange that such an exhaustive search effort would fail to turn up the missing plane and/or men, or even signs of a crash, such as debris, oil slick, etc.

Here is a map showing the locations involved. However, please read the following text, as it corrects the map somewhat. I could not locate a corrected map.


Map of the incident.

quote;
"Note that the map shown…. ((above) shows the
correct and incorrect) location for the site where the F-89 disappeared over
Lake Superior. It seems that an earlier investigator misread the
geographical coordinates for this site "48 00 N 86 49 W" as "45
00 N 86 49 W". The coordinates "4800N 8649W" appear in telexes
and the RCAF Search and Rescue Report that are in the USAF
Accident Report files from the incident".

"This location over
Canadian waters of Lake Superior is also the location where
433rd FIS Base Commander Lt. Col. Harry Shoup is pointing to in
a photograph that was published in the Madison, Wisconsin
newspaper the day after the F-89 was lost over Lake Superior".


According to Appendix A of the Report, the weather wasn’t exceptionally hazardous…

quote;
"The weather conditions existing over eastern Lake Superior at the time contact was lost with the missing F89, was forecast to be the following. A generally solid deck of Stratocumulus base from 2-3000 and top at 6-7000 feet. A broken Altostratus layer, base 10,000 to 14-15000 feet. The visibility was generally 10-12 miles falling to 1-2 miles in isolated snow showers. The freezing level was at the surface to the west, rising to 800 - 1000 feet in the east."

"Analysis of the Sault Ste Marie Radio Sonde Run for 2100Z (1600E) indicates that moderate to heavy icing could occur from the cloud base to 7000 feet. The air was quite stable and rime ice should have predominated. No turbulence or other hazard would have been encountered. The winds were light south-easterly at the surface shifting to west aloft".

APPENDIX "A" TO 976-3 (SC&T/AT4) DATED 18 DEC 53
quote;
"Regardless of what happened this night, there are still a lot of mysteries to be solved regarding this incident".

"The Air Force suggestion is that the pilot suffered vertigo and crashed into the lake. One has to wonder how likely this is, when flying on instruments though, as official records state he was. Why did the USAF claim an RCAF plane as the UFO, when the RCAF states it wasn’t there? Perhaps the most curious question is why no acknowledgement of the radio conversations for the incident? Surely, if such an identification (of an RCAF plane) was made, or if the pilot had trouble, the radio conversation would have conveyed this and been released to put the incident to rest"?

"The following is from a radar operator during the incident (allegedly)"

quote;
"....I'd like to fill in the gaps in the UFO "anomoly" incident over Lake Superior in 1953. I was stationed in Battle Creek Michigan at a radar AC&W (Air Craft Control and Warning) and was on duty when the incident took place. When we were notified of the "bogey" to the north of us, we increased our radar range. We spotted the target, which was stationary (suddenly a plane seems more unlikely, if this account is correct and legit), by a bright blip on the screen over the east end of the lake. Two F-89"C" interceptors were heading west from Kinross AFB. One of the F-89's had to abort the flight because of mechanical problems.

quote;
"The pilot, aborting, asked the other pilot if he wanted to return home or wait for another wingman. He (Moncla) said "Negative" to both and continued to intercept. I was watching it unfold and was able to monitor the transmissions from the aircraft to his ground controller. The transmission was something like this":

"The first report from the pilot "No Joy" (No Contact) On the scope he was closing in on the bogey. As he got closer he announced (slight static) "I have an eyeball on the target, am going in for a closer look." (more static) Each time he transmitted the static became more and more unintelligable, the static louder each time he transmitted. As his aircraft converged with the target, there came steadier and louder static each time he transmitted until they merged. Then all was silent".

"From my position the now merged blip started northwest for a short time and then disappeared. The strangest thing about the incident was the closer he got to the bogey, the fewer words were heard due to the increase in static. The static was present only when he transmitted. A word here and there was heard - as the targets merged there was a long blast of static. His last transmission???"

http://www.subversiveelement.com/UFO_BattleCreek.html




1. If a plane malfunction, where's the radio transcript of it? Surely he would have mayday'ed....?

2. Surely the USAF would have much rather had it be a malfunction and crash than "unknown". So obviously no such mayday reported.

3. If the radio wasn't working, and the UFO was really the Canadian plane the USAF states, then surely the Canadian plane would have an idea what happened (given when and where the plane vanished from radar, and it's proximity to it....assuming of course, the USAF claim is legit). Why deny being in the area and off course? Unless of course, the Canadian plane WAS on course, and NOT in the area, just as they claim to be the case.

4. And after all these years and the activity in the area, still no wreckage or bodies turned up?

Indeed, the information regarding the plane needs to be considered, however if you check the link given:


link; http://www.cufon.org/kinross/Kinross_acc_rept.htm
(Scroll down to Distribution B)

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THE CASE FOR ROSWELL PART I.

This is the first part to take a systematic approach to showing what many believe happened, and why the Air Force story doesn’t hold water…

PART I: The Air Force Report: Case Closed. How Mogul can NOT be the culprit.

PART II: The Debris Analysis. I-Beams or Balsa Wood with flowery tape? He-said, she-said?

PART III: (Forthcoming, separate post) The Timeline of Events. What happened, when, and where.

More parts to follow…

Roswell, NM. The incident long cited as THE UFO case of all time. Certainly, the name is synonymous with the incident. There’s been a lot said both for and against the crash being either an alien craft (or two) or a top secret balloon experiment. One thing that is undeniable, is that a crash of SOMETHING did occur. At least this much is even admitted by the military. So the question is of course, WHAT crashed?

First, we have the last official version of the explanation from the Air Force. This was in July, 1994, and can be seen here:http://www.af.mil/lib/roswell/index.asp Frustrated with the publicity still surrounding Roswell, the Air Force releases another “last word” report on the incident.

This is one of the first claims:
The "unusual" military activities in the New Mexico desert were high altitude research balloon launch and recovery operations. Reports of military units that always seemed to arrive shortly after the crash of a flying saucer to retrieve the saucer and "crew," were actually accurate descriptions of Air Force personnel engaged in anthropomorphic dummy recovery operations


Going into more detail, they clarify and reiterate that a Mogul balloon is what crashed. The following, is actually from a well-known skeptic site, illustrating the purpose of Mogul.
http://www.csicop.org/si/9507/roswell.html

Its classified purpose was to try to develop a way to monitor possible Soviet nuclear detonations with the use of low-frequency acoustic microphones placed at high altitudes. No other means of monitoring the nuclear activities of a closed country like the USSR was yet available, and the project was given a high priority. One of the NYU tasks was the development of constant-level balloons for placing the acoustic microphones aloft. After some preliminary flights in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, in April 1947, which failed due to high winds, the project moved to New Mexico.

In June and early July 1947, numerous NYU balloon flights were launched from Alamogordo Army Air Field in New Mexico. Some of these flights consisted of very long trains containing up to two dozen neoprene sounding balloons, having a total length of more than 600 feet.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t see where anthropomorphic dummies come into play in such an experiment. So, right off the bat, we’re faced with an apparent lie. The USAF is using two completely different and unrelated experiments to explain the Roswell incident. Indeed, the tests involving anthropomorphic dummies were years later:


The Roswell Report: Case Closed, which deals almost exclusively with claims of alien bodies. The report’s primary discovery was that actual military activities in New Mexico during the 1950s closely resembled the reports of spacecraft crashes that emerged decades later. One of these activities, Project High Dive, involved lifelike anthropomorphic dummies loaded with sensors mounted in cages that were dropped out of the sky and later collected by caravans of military trucks and equipment.

Some landed near Roswell, with witnesses transforming the cages into escape capsules from a mother ship, and the dummies, clothed in flight suits, into aliens. UFO author Kevin Randle notes that in 1954 there was one kind of alien reported—short humanoids in space suits. [17] That year marked the start of Project High Dive.

Perhaps the Air Force should have checked their calendars, as the Roswell crash occurred in 1947, YEARS before the early 50’s. Indeed, this was project High Dive, not Mogul. Likewise, in all my years of looking into Roswell, this is the first I’ve heard of “escape capsules”, an obvious attempt at establishing an air of ridicule to the accounts.

Not to mention, they briefly include the notes of a prominent UFO researcher, but then fail to mention that the anthropomorphic dummies were regular human-sized, which of course would then destroy the “short humanoids in space suits”note. Now the apparent lie has become an obvious one. You can’t just stick the two different tests from different decades together and use that as a viable explanation. It doesn’t wash.

There are other problems with the Mogul cover story of course. For this, we’ll look at the items used in Mogul.


Sure looks like a “flying disc” to me! How about you?

Personally, I’m no expert on crashed debris, but I’d sure like to know how plausible it is that the highest ranking intelligence officer at the base, Major Jesse Marcel, would mistake balsa wood and tin foil for the remains of an unidentified craft, wouldn’t you? I’m sure you or I would easily be able to make that identification, so I feel pretty confident in assuming that he could easily discern this as well.

And yet, Marcel stated it quite differently.
Major Jesse Marcel, intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group based at Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF), inspected the site shortly after Brazel reported the debris to the Chaves County sheriff in Roswell. Marcel described a big field: debris ". . . about as far as you could see—three quarters [of a] mile long and two hundred to three hundred feet wide."

It was "scattered all over—just like you’d explode something above the ground and [it would] just fall to the ground." The shortest pieces were "four or five inches. It was [as if it were from] something of some greater area that had been together."

http://www.cufos.org/ros4.html (which incidentally, has some excellent info for how it couldn’t be a Mogul balloon, as well.)

So, when did the balloon coverup go into motion? The answer is, almost immediately. Before any mention of Mogul (this wouldn’t be till years later), the military stuck with a basic weather balloon story. After getting in hot water over the official press release issued (that the US Army Air Force had retrieved the wreckage of a “crashed disc”(words of the press release, not an inference), Army brass reacted quickly to do damage control. A retraction of the story was released, and the press was fed the coverup story. Here’s the now infamous picture of Ramey (along with Chief of Staff Dubose, not Marcel, as many sometimes assume) with the balloon debris.






While the staging contributes greatly to the effectiveness of the coverup, Ramey could not have known at the time, that eventually, technology would enable us to read portions of the memo he’s holding in this photo (in the red box).
http://www.ufocasebook.com/rameymemo.html





The message turns out to be a telegram from Gen. Ramey to the Pentagon and Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg, the acting AAF Chief of Staff at the time. Ramey is providing Vandenberg an update on the very fluid situation in-the-field at Roswell.

The first paragraph describes what had been found. Ramey starts by acknowledging "THAT A 'DISK' IS NEXT NEW FIND." He then adds that "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK" and something else (possibly just "A WRECK") had also been found near the recovery "OPERATION AT THE 'RANCH'." At the end it states that "YOU" (i.e. Gen. Vandenberg) had ordered the "victims" and/or the wreckage "FORWARDED" to "FORT WORTH, TEX."

So, while photographers are snapping pictures that will eventually keep the story buried for years, they unwittingly capture evidence of what really happened away from public eyes…

Additionally, there is the testimony (as a sworn affidavit) of the other man in the photo other than the General, that proves to be an interesting read…
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/dubose.html
1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General.

(4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eight Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel.

(5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen.

(6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy.

(7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press.

(8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: T. J. Dubose
Date: 9/16/91

Signature witnessed by:
Linda R. Split
Notary Public, State of Florida

Here is the separate pic of Marcel with the debris in Fort Worth.





There is a lot of talk about conflicting stories of material being switched, as stated by Marcel, etc. and this is usually seized upon by skeptics.
When Marcel arrived at Carswell, Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Commander of the 8th Air Force took full charge of the case. The debris from Brazel's field was taken into Ramey's office, and photographed.

The photographer was James Bond Johnson. Marcel was in one photo with the real debris. Ramey took Marcel into another office, and upon their return to Ramey's office, some new and different material was spread on the floor. Marcel, under orders, stated that this debris was from a weather balloon. After more photos were taken, Ramey sent Marcel back to Roswell, along with a stern warning not to disclose anything he had seen at Carswell.

It was then reported that General Ramey recognized the remains as part of a weather balloon. Brigadier General Thomas DuBose, the chief of staff of the Eighth Air Force, after many years of silence would state:
"[It] was a cover story. The whole balloon part of it. That was the part of the story we were told to give to the public and news and that was it."

I’ve shown the two photos as regardless of any of that disagreement, we’ve got sworn testimony by Dubose that the balloon story was a coverup that he had full knowledge of.

In the next part, I’ll go into the accounts of the debris as told by witnesses, and I’ll examine what’s been said on this from both skeptics and believers, to allow the reader to judge for themselves which version they think is more plausible. [TO BE CONTINUED]

[Fatal Guillotine]

THE CASE FOR ROSWELL PART II.

The Debris Analysis;


We’ve already seen (in Part I) a lot of evidence to show that whatever crashed at Roswell, it was not some amalgamation of Project Mogul and Project High Dive. Of course, many skeptics still maintain that the debris recovered is that of Mogul targets and balloons. So, we’ll examine this further.

We’ll start with the most sensational…the “I-Beams” as they are called. The skeptics claim that these sticks are the balsa wood framework of the Mogul radar targets. Of course, anyone who’s ever held a piece of balsa wood, knows that even a small child could break it between two fingers without effort, so how does this compare to the witness descriptions?

(F&B, interviewed July, 1990) "The piece he [Mac Brazel] brought looked like a kind of tan, light brown plastic. It was very lightweight, like balsa wood. It wasn't a large piece, maybe about four inches long, maybe just a little larger than a pencil. We cut on it with a knife and would hold a match on it, and it wouldn't burn. We knew it wasn't wood. It was smooth like plastic, it didn't have a real sharp corners, kind of like a dowel stick. Kind of dark tan. It didn't have any grain, just smooth. I hadn't seen anything like it."-Loretta Proctor


So, it is easy to see the balsa wood connection. But, if this was the balsa wood debris from a Mogul balloon, surely a piece the size mentioned could be broken, cut, or burned very easily, even by a child.

(B&M; interview Dec. 1979) "There were several different types of stuff. ...it sure was light in weight. It weighed almost nothing. There was some wooden-like particles I picked up. These were like balsa wood in weight, but a bit darker in color and much harder. You know the thing about wood is that the harder it gets, the heavier it is. Mahogany, for example is quite heavy. This stuff, on the other hand, weighed nothing, yet you couldn't scratch it with your fingernail like ordinary balsa, and you couldn't break it either. It was pliable, but wouldn't break.

Of course, all I had was a few splinters. It never occurred to me to try to burn it so I don't know if it would burn or not."
[Quoting his father] "Dad did say one time that there were what he called 'figures' on some of the pieces he found. He often referred to the petroglyphs the ancient Indians drew on rocks around here as "figures" too, and I think that's what he meant to compare them with."-William Brazel Jr.


Again, we see that the material could not be cut. He states his father (Mac Brazel) who initially found the debris, saw pieces with some symbols on them.

(F&B) "A lot of it had a lot of little members [beams] with symbols that we had to call them hieroglyphics because I could not interpret them, they could not be read, they were just symbols, something that meant something and they were not all the same. The members that this was painted on -- by the way, those symbols were pink and purple, lavender was actually what it was. And so these little members could not be broken, could not be burned. I even tried to burn that. It would not burn."-Major Jesse Marcel


He drew the glyphs he saw…and they were on an “I-shaped” beam, which is VERY different than the framework for the Mogul targets (or any other such radar target). Marcel’s description…










Yet the skeptics claim this was balsa wood, with colored tape (stating that they got the tape from a toy company, and it had flowers printed on it). Such as Mogul engineer Charles Moore’s description...






However, this is not what Marcel and the others describe at all. Even you or I could easily tell tin foil taped to a piece of balsa wood, from something extraordinary. Moreover, the explanations offered fail to explain how the debris pieces couldn’t be cut or burned.

Bessie Brazel is often cited by the skeptics, as she has mentioned seeing “tape”. However, that is not really what she said…

"There were what appeared to be pieces of heavily waxed paper and a sort of aluminum-like foil. Some of these pieces had something like numbers and lettering on them, but there were no words you were able to make out. Some of the metal-foil pieces had a sort of tape stuck to them, and when these were held to the light they showed what looked like pastel flowers or designs. Even though the stuff looked like tape it could not be peeled off or removed at all…. [The writing] looked like numbers mostly ... They were written out like you would write numbers in columns to do an addition problem. But they didn't look like the numbers we use at all. What gave me the idea they were numbers, I guess, was the way they were all ranged out in columns… No, it was definitely not a balloon.

We had seen weather balloons quite a lot - both on the ground and in the air. We had even found a couple of Japanese-style balloons that had come down in the area once. We had also picked up a couple of those thin rubber weather balloons with instrument packages. This was nothing like that. I have never seen anything resembling this sort of thing before - or since..."-Crash at Corona-Friedman


A recent Disclosure Project witness, Brig. General Steven Lovekin, describing what he was shown during a Pentagon briefing around 1959. He also has signed a sworn affidavit to this testimony. I suppose this was also balsa wood sticks?

(During a Pentagon meeting discussing Project Blue Book materials)
"Colonel Hollobard [sp? perhaps Hollogard] brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic -- it was a metallic piece of -- it looked like a yardstick. It had deciphering--it had encryption on it. He did describe them as being symbols of instruction. And that's as far as he would go. But he did infer that the instructions, whatever they might have been, were something that was important enough for the military to keep working on on a constant basis.

"It seemed giant-like when I saw it because it was the first time I had ever seen anything like this before. And all eyes were just peeled on that particular thing. And when he told us what it was, it was frightening, it was eerie there. You could have heard a pin drop in the room when it was first mentioned.

"He said it had been taken from one of the craft that had crashed in New Mexico. It had been taken from a box of materials that the military was working on. They didn't use the word reverse engineering at that time, but it was something similar to the reverse engineering they felt like they needed to work on and that it was going to take years to do this."


There are additional witnesses, but I think this serves the purpose, of showing that these pieces of debris were something special and not balsa sticks. The additional witnesses concur with the pieces being shaped like an I-beam, and not at all like the framework described by the Mogul engineer Moore. Repeatedly, the witnesses are impressed that the debris pieces could not be broken, cut, or burned. And yet we’re to believe that all of these people were fooled by balsa wood? Even a Brig. General and the senior intelligence officer of the Roswell Army Air Field? I don’t buy it.

Now we turn to the metallic foil debris. Foil was used for the Mogul targets, but it was “off the shelf” material, even as mentioned by Moore. Aluminum foil is hardly fantastic or non-recognizable, even to the public in 1947. Indeed, even children are familiar with it as the wrapping of a Hershey’s chocolate bar (as another member pointed out). Well, like the balsa wood, tin foil is also extremely fragile. How does this compare to the debris described?

(H&M, FUFOR, 1979 television interview) "[There were] many bits of metallic foil, that looked like, but was not, aluminum, for no matter how often one crumpled it, it regained its original shape again. Besides that, they were indestructible, even with a sledgehammer."-Major Jesse Marcel


That must be some extra heavy duty tin foil the Army was using! And memory metals, in 1947? Yet Mogul is stated (even by skeptics) as using off the shelf materials, as the only thing classified about Mogul was it’s mission objectives…not its components. And yet somehow, this was so sensitive as to require it to be classified for almost half a century? Surely, this flies in the face of common sense. Let’s look at other witnesses’ descriptions of the foil-like debris.

(F&B) "One of the pieces looked like] something on the order of tinfoil, except that [it] wouldn't tear.... You could wrinkle it and lay it back down and it immediately resumed its original shape... quite pliable, but you couldn't crease or bend it like ordinary metal. Almost like a plastic, but definitely metallic. Dad once said that the Army had once told him it was not anything made by us."
"...a little piece of -- it wasn't tinfoil, it wasn't lead foil -- a piece about the size of my finger. ...


The only reason I noticed the tinfoil (I'm gonna call it tinfoil), I picked this stuff up and put it in my chaps pocket. Might be two or three days or a week before I took it out and put it in a cigar box. I happened to notice when I put that piece of foil in that box, and the damn thing just started unfolding and just flattened out. Then I got to playing with it. I'd fold it, crease it, lay it down and it'd unfold. It's kinda weird. I couldn't tear it. The color was in between tinfoil and lead foil, about the [thickness] of lead foil."-Mac Brazel


(Pflock, FUFOR, from affidavit 9/27/93): "What Bill [Brazel Jr.] showed us was a piece of what I still think as fabric. It was something like aluminum foil, something like satin, something like well-tanned leather in its toughness, yet was not precisely like any one of those materials. While I do not recall this with certainty, I think the fabric measured about four by eight to ten inches. Its edges, where were smooth, were not exactly parallel, and its shape was roughly trapezoidal. It was about the thickness of a very fine kidskin glove leather and a dull metallic grayish silver, one side slightly darker than the other. I do not remember it having any design or embossing on it. Bill passed it around, and we all felt it.

I did a lot of sewing, so the feel made a great impression on me. It felt like no fabric I have touched before or since. It was very silky or satiny, with the same texture on both sides. Yet when I crumpled it in my hands, the feel was like that you notice when you crumple a leather glove in your hand. When it was released, it sprang back into its original shape, quickly flattening out with no wrinkles. I did this several times, as did the others. I remember some of the others stretching it between their hands and "popping" it, but I do not think anyone tried to cut or tear it."-Sally Strickland Tadolini (neighbor) in a sworn affadavit


(Pflock, FUFOR, affidavit 10/10/91) "All I saw was a little piece of material. The piece of debris I saw was two-to-three inches square. It was jagged. When you crumpled it up, it then laid back out; and when it did, it kind of crackled, making a sound like cellophane, and it crackled when it was let out. There were no creases.”-Sgt. Robert Smith (member of the First Air Transport Unit, which operated Douglas C-54 Skymaster four-engine cargo planes out of the Roswell AAF) in a sworn affidavit.


Ok, so that’s what the witnesses describe (there are others of course, attesting to the same properties, but I believe this is sufficient for now), how does it compare to the foil used in Mogul? Here’s Warrant Officer Irving Newton’s description of the foil used in Mogul. Newton was the weather officer called in to identify the debris at Ramey’s press conference on July 8, 1947. (Note: Major Marcel and Chief of Staff Dubose contend that the balloon debris photographed was a coverup, as stated in Dubose’s affidavit). The interviewer is in italics, whereas the answers by Newton are in regular text.


(B&M, questioning Newton in July 1979 Interview)
Q. But wouldn't the people at Roswell have been able to identify a balloon on their own?
A. They certainly should have. It was a regular Rawin sonde. They must have seen hundreds of them.
Q. Can you describe the fabric? Was it easy to tear?
A. Certainly. You would have to be careful not to tear it. The metal involved was like an extremely thin Alcoa wrap. It was very flimsy.


So, while we do have material resembling tin foil and balsa wood, unlike those materials, the ones found in wreckage had memory metal qualities, wouldn’t burn or tear, and the beams couldn’t be broken but were flexible, completely unlike tin foil and balsa wood. So, either all of these (and those not mentioned here) people are lying (and in sworn affidavits), or the material found was certainly not tin foil and balsa wood.

In addition to the wreckage that crumpled and would bounce back though, are other pieces of debris that couldn’t be bent, marked, burned, etc. These pieces of debris were some of the larger pieces and are described below.

"This particular piece of metal was, I would say, about two feet long and perhaps a foot wide. See, that stuff weighs nothing, it's so thin, it isn't any thicker than the tinfoil in a pack of cigarettes. So I tried to bend the stuff, it wouldn't bend. We even tried making a dent in it with a 16-pound sledge hammer, and there was still no dent in it.

I didn't have the time to go out there and find out more about it, because I had so much other work to do that I just let it go. It's still a mystery to me as to what the whole thing was. Like I said before, I knew quite a bit about the material used in the air, but it was nothing I had seen before. And as of now, I still don't know what it was.”-Major Marcel in an interview with Leonard Stringfield


(R&S1) One man set a piece on the ground and jumped on it, trying to dent or bend it, and failed.

"There was a slightly curved piece of metal, real light. It was about six inches by twelve or fourteen inches. Very light. I crouched down and tried to snap it. My boss [Cavitt] laughs and said, 'Smart guy. He's trying to do what we couldn't do.' I asked, 'what in the hell is this stuff made out of?' It didn't feel like plastic and I never saw a piece of metal this thin that you couldn't break."


"This was the strangest material we had ever seen ... there was talk about it not being from Earth. ...A year later I was talking to Joe Wirth, a CIC officer from Andrews Air Force Base in Washington D.C. I asked what they had found out about the stuff from Roswell. He told me that they still didn't know what it was and that their metal experts still couldn't cut it."-M. Sgt. Lewis (Bill) Rickett (Prior to going into counterintelligence, Rickett was a highly qualified aircraft mechanic, inspector, and supervisor. During the war, he was sent to Europe as part of the team that studied German aircraft on site. Thus he was well-qualified in his assessment of the strange thin-metal he said he saw )


It appears that the skeptics are being selective in which pieces of debris they cite and compare to Mogul. Surely, none of the recently mentioned debris (such as unbendable metal sheets two feet long) is comparable to any materials used in Mogul, and indeed, seem to be beyond our capability at the time, and possibly even now, to produce. Oddly enough though, perhaps the greatest clue of all that this wasn’t balloon debris, is provided by the military itself… Would they really fly balsa wood and tin foil to Wright Field or Fort Worth for analysis?

Surely even the base janitor could easily identify the materials if this is indeed what it was, so why all the secrecy? The Mogul balloons weren’t using any kind of top secret gear, only it’s mission objectives were classified. Why would tin foil and balsa wood be flown out at all, let alone in secrecy and urgency? It simply doesn’t make sense…unless of course, you then recall the words of Brig. General Steven Lovekin (as previously mentioned in his affidavit during a Pentagon briefing).

"It seemed giant-like when I saw it because it was the first time I had ever seen anything like this before. And all eyes were just peeled on that particular thing. And when he told us what it was, it was frightening, it was eerie there. You could have heard a pin drop in the room when it was first mentioned.”


Somehow, I don’t think it was tin foil and balsa wood that had the men frightened and humbled…

In Part III, covers the timeline of events leading up to, during, and soon after the crash, based of course, on factual evidence as well as testimony.. It was important to address both the incompetent Air Force conclusions, as well as the ridiculousness of the Mogul/High Dive explanations before delving into the detail of events as they occurred.

[TO BE CONTINUED]

[Fatal Guillotine]

THE CASE FOR ROSWELL PART III

The Timeline of Events
Section B

This section will cover the events just for Saturday, July 5th, as this was an extremely busy day in the Roswell saga…

Saturday, July 5.1947

Reposting the map image from earlier, first we’ll speak of the second crash site…






Many timelines list a Jason Ridgway (admitted name change) as a rancher and friend of Brazel’s, who also discovers a crash site. Some research indicates the real name to be Stephen Marlowe, and again, due to various conflicting evidence, and a lack of support for this witness, I’ll omit it from my timeline.

The next claim in most timelines is that archaeologists, including W. Curry Holden, working the sites around Roswell stumbled across the impact site where the object had crashed. One of them headed to the closest phone to tell Sheriff George Wilcox of the discovery of the remains of a crashed aircraft of some kind. I personally couldn’t find evidence to support the phone call to Wilcox. There is also some doubt as to Holden’s condition when interviewed, as he was 96 and close to death at the time. However, Holden does state, “I was involved . . .

I was there and I saw everything." Thomas Carey, a CUFOS (Citizens against UFO Secrecy) field investigator did find some interesting info as well, that may be difficult for the skeptics to address…


The bank statements also show that Holden made a huge deposit of $4,834 to his account on
July 15, 1947, which makes one wonder how he came by such a large sum compared to his other bank deposits.



Just as interesting as what he
found was what Randle didn't find. The archive included all of Holden's
income tax records for all the years from the 1930s through the 1970s -
except for one year, 1947! Income tax records can reveal much about a
person's lifestyle, contacts and associates, and activities during the
course of a year.

The archivist thought it was odd that only one year
was missing but could offer no explanation other than "the family still
controls what goes into and what comes out of the collection." During
one conversation with the archivist, I noticed that his voice was lower
than usual and asked him if he felt uncomfortable talking about Curry
Holden for some reason.


He answered: "Yes, Mrs. Holden is sitting twenty
feet away." We had in hand enough circumstantial information to suggest
that Holden could have been where Schultz said he was on that fateful
day, but nothing definite.

http://aliens.xaviermedia.com/filedb/71/explanation/

There are still ongoing efforts to locate other participants in this particular occurrence, but of course anyone involved may be deceased or near it at this point. The link above does cite some anonymous statements that are interesting, if not substantiated enough to serve as evidence. It is worth the read.

The next event stated in most timelines, is that Wilcox called the local fire department to alert them about the crash. One truck, with fireman Dan Dwyer on it, responds to the call. The site is about thirty-five miles north of Roswell. Again, I could not corroborate Wilcox with this call, but there is sworn testimony putting the fire department, as well as Dan Dwyer, at the crash scene…


(Frankie Rowe, age 12 in 1947, is the daughter of Roswell fireman, Dan Dwyer, who allegedly was at the main saucer crash site with other members of the fire department and members of the Roswell police department. The foil she saw was allegedly later shown at the Roswell fire station to some of the firemen and herself by a state trooper.)

(R&S2, Paperback edition, affidavit 11/22/93): "In early July 1947, I was in the fire house waiting for my father to take me home. A State Trooper arrived and displayed a piece of metallic debris that he said he'd picked up on the crash site. It was a dull gray and about the thickness of aluminum foil. When wadded into a ball, it would unfold itself. The fire fighters were unable to cut or burn it."

(Pflock) [As she waited, a state police officer came in and said he wanted to show the firemen something.] "He took his hand out of his pocket and he dropped what he had in his fist on the table. He said it was something he picked up out at the crash site. It looked like quicksilver when it was on the table, but you could wad it up.

[It was] a little larger than . . . [his] hand. It had jagged edges" [and it was a dull grayish-silver color.] "You couldn't feel it in your hand. It was so thin that it felt like holding a hair . . . It wasn't anything you'd ever seen before. It flowed like quicksilver when you laid it on the table. [The firemen and the trooper] tried to tear it, cut it and burn it. It wadded up into nothing. The state cop said he'd gotten away with just this one small piece, and he said he didn't know how long he'd be able to keep it, if the military found out."



http://roswellproof.homestead.com/de...mory_foil.html


The Roswell Fire Department, escorted by members of the Roswell Police Department, makes a run along Pine Lodge Road northwest of Roswell. These are among the first civilians to stumble across the impact site.


In later interviews Dan Dwyer is quoted as saying that he saw "the first pink lines of sunlight over the horizon" indicating being there at least pre-dawn of the morning of July 5th. He also notices an extremely strong glow showing up, not from a fire, but similar to how lights illuminate the dark sky of a nighttime high school football game, over the crest of the hills away from the sunrise. After sunup Dwyer is able to sneak away undetected from the loosely watched or guarded fire crew and police officers, possibly by a planned or accidental diversion created by his buddies sharing hot coffee from thermos bottles with members of the military.


He climbs up through the rocks, trees and underbrush to a point where he is able to see a sizable number of uniformed military personnel, a series of now turned off floodlights, and various pieces of equipment such as jeeps, SRC-399 radio rigs and other communication vans. He sees as well the center of all the activity and what he describes later as a "strange craft" being lifted into the air by a crane and set on a flat bed truck. He continues to watch as it is secured with chains and cables then covered by a tarp. Because none of the fire fighters or police officers chose to join him and they remain basically under guard, no one of the group other than Dwyer is an actual eyewitness to the event.

http://www.angelfire.com/indie/anna_jones1/roswell.html

Many timelines show the military knowing the approximate location of the saucer crash, moving in with a carefully selected team for the recovery of the craft. Presumably, this was triggered by the dispatch of police and fire, or more likely The soldiers find civilians on the site already. They escort them off while others secure the area. Bodies are found on the site. The site is cleaned and secured in six hours.


The military recovery team, working most of the night under high powered floodlights since sometime before 2:00 AM are just past the early stages of their investigation and completion of the set up of equipment around sunrise. Just as the sun is coming up, but before Dwyer's unknown and totally undetected observation of a much more advanced stage of recovery an hour or two later, civilians suddenly show up on the scene. The soldiers are told by the team to escort them out of the area while other soldiers are ordered to search and secure a much wider perimeter and not just the dirt roads leading into the site.


The civilians mentioned are more than likely Holden and his students who had hiked in over the hills, unexpectedly catching the military off guard. The Roswell fire and police department personnel --- which technically might not be viewed as civilians by the public, but considered as such by the military --- are continued to be held or stopped by MPs some distance away along the dirt road leading up to the crash site.

Dwyer is able to slip back down the hill through the widening military sweep and rejoins his group undetected. Because Holden and his students arrived right on top of the actual crash scene much earlier than Dwyer's observation of the scene from a distance, neither Dwyer nor Holden or any member of either group is aware of the others presence.
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/anna_jones1/roswell.html

There is other support for the military cordon in place as well…again we’ll cite the testimony of William Woody (now in it’s entirety)


AFFIDAVIT of William M. Woody

(1) My name is William M. Woody
(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I am employed as: __________________________________. ( ) I am retired
(4) In 1947, I was 12 years old [corrected to 14 years old] and living with my family on our farm, located 3 miles south of Roswell, New Mexico, and east of what was then Roswell Army Air Field. I still live on that farm.

(5) One hot night during the summer of 1947, probably in early July, my father and I were outside on the farm. It was well after sundown and quite dark. Suddenly, the sky lit up. When we looked up to see where the light was coming from, we saw a large, very bright object in the southwestern sky, moving rapidly northward.

(6) The object had the bright white intensity of a blow torch, and had a long, flame-like tail, with colors like a blow-torch flame fading down into a pale red. Most of the tail was this pale red color. The tail was very long, equal to about 10 diameters of a full moon.

(7) We watched the object travel all the way across the sky until it disappeared below the northern horizon. It was moving fast, but not as fast as a meteor, and we had it in view for what seemed like 20 to 30 seconds. Its brightness and colors did not change during the whole time, and it definitely went out of sight below the horizon, rather than winking out like a meteor does. My father thought it was a big meteorite and was convinced it had fallen to earth about 40 miles north of Roswell, probably just southwest of the intersection of U.S. Highway 285 and the Corona road (State Highway 247). [NOTE: Compare this to the map showing the crash sites, looking at Site 2]

(8) My father knew the territory, all its roads, and many of the people very well, so two or three days later (definitely not the next day), he decided to look for the object. He took me with him in our old flatbed truck. We headed north through Roswell on U.S. 285. About 19 miles north of town, where the highway crosses the Macho Draw, we saw at least one uniformed soldier stationed beside the road. As we drove along, we saw more sentries and Army vehicles. They were stationed at all places -- ranch roads, crossroads, etc.--where there was access to leave the highway and drive east or west, and they were armed, some with rifles, others with sidearms. I do not remember seeing any military activity on the ranchland beyond the highway right of way.

(9) We stopped at one sentry post, and my father asked a soldier what was going on. The soldier, who's attitude was very nice, just said his orders were not to let anyone leave 285 and go into the countryside.

(10) As we drove north, we saw that the Corona road (State 247), which runs west from Highway 285, was blocked by soldiers. We went on as far as Ramon, about nine miles north of the 247 intersection. There were sentries there, too. At Ramon we turned around and head south and home.

(11) I remember my father saying he thought the Army was looking for something it had tracked on its way down. He may have gotten this from the soldier he spoke with during our drive up 285, but I am not sure.

(12) I also recall that two neighbors, both now dead, stopped by and told my father they had seen the same object we had seen. One said others in his family had seen it too. There were many rumors about flying saucers that summer, and I recall the weather balloon story, explaining away the report of a flying saucer crash near Corona. This seemed reasonable to us at the time.

(13) I have not been paid or given or promised anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: William M. Woody
9-28-93

Signature witnessed by:
Tracy L. Callaway
9.28.93


Some timelines (such as NICAP’s) report an attempted teletype intercepted by the FBI by a local station. My research (and others) indicates this actually happened after the weekend (so we’ll touch on this when we get there).

Sergeant Melvin Brown sees an alien while riding in the back of one of the Army trucks containing the bodies. Many skeptics love to dwell on him being a cook, but although Brown's official military occupation was a cook and baker, he was also a decorated WWII veteran, including a bronze star, his service papers further listing him as an expert marksman.


He also said that one day all available men were grabbed and that they had to stand guard where a crashed disc had come down. Everything was being loaded onto trucks, and he couldn't understand why some of the trucks had ice or something in them. He did not understand what they wanted to keep cold. Him and another guy had to ride in the back of one of the trucks, and although they were told that they could get into a lot of trouble if they took in too much of what was happening, they had a quick look under the covering and saw two dead bodies, alien bodies. (testimony of his daughter Beverly) - Sergeant Melvin Brown was a cook at Roswell AAF in 1947. One day, he was called out to help guard material retrieved from the Foster Ranch. His daughter Beverly was interviewed by Stanton Friedman in 1989

http://www.webfellows.com/tufop/rosw...elvinsdaughter


He said they were smaller han a normal man--about four feet--and had much larger heads than us, with slanted eyes, and that the bodies looked yellowish, a bit Asian-looking. [Friedman and Berliner, Crash at Corona, 1992]
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/dennis.html

There are other witnesses attesting to seeing tarped deuce and a half Army trucks traveling the highway at high speed, as well as other witnesses to the military cordon (such as C. Bertram Schultz, a respected vertebra paleontologist), but I think we’ve seen enough to move on.
The bodies arrive at the base and are taken to the hospital for examination. Dr. Jesse Johnson pronounces them dead. Two doctors who are not assigned to the base but who have arrived on one of the special flights begin the preliminary autopsy.

The testimony of Glenn Dennis, a mortician working for the Ballard Funeral Home in Roswell…is extremely compelling. Although Dennis' credibility has come under heavy attack by skeptics, there is some excellent corroboration for parts of his story and he remains a highly credible witness. Former Roswell police chief L.M. Hall remembered Dennis telling him about the calls from the base for child-size caskets only a few days after the newspaper stories of the crashed flying saucer.


Thus it seems this part of Dennis' story is not of recent origin but dates back to the original event itself. Hall’s affidavit: http://roswellproof.homestead.com/De...ml#anchor_3375
David Wagnon, who was a young medical technician at the base hospital, remembered the young, attractive nurse fitting Dennis' description. Wagnon’s http://roswellproof.homestead.com/De...ml#anchor_3444
Second-hand descriptions of the aliens from family members also seem to match the general description provided by Dennis.

Henderson's wife recalled being told the beings were small with disproportionately large heads. She also recalled being told that the beings were packed in dry ice, a preservation technique Dennis said he recommended to prevent alteration of the chemical composition of the bodies. Henderson's daughter recalled being told that the aliens were "small and pale, with slanted eyes and large heads." Henderson
http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Henderson.html
Glenn’s affidavit is below, as it also serves our purposes of illustrating the timeline well.


AFFIDAVIT OF GLENN DENNIS


(1) My name is Glenn Dennis

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I am ( ) employed as: __________________________________ ( ) retured,

(4) In July 1947, I was a mortician, working for the Ballard Funeral Home in Roswell, which had a contract to provide mortuary services for the Roswell Army Air Field. One afternoon, [EDIT: from the research, it appears this was on July 5th. Though I’ve seen later dates claimed, this is what is corroborated by other testimony, as well as the events themselves] around 1:15 or 1:30, I received a call from the base mortuary officer who asked what was the smallest size hermetically sealed casket that we had in stock.

He said, "We need to know this in case something comes up in the future." He asked how long it would take to get one, and I assured him I could get one for him the following day. He said he would call back if they needed one.

(5) About 45 minutes to an hour later, he called back and asked me to describe the preparation for bodies that had been lying out on the desert for a period of time. Before I could answer, he said he specifically wanted to know what effect the preparation procedures would have on the body's chemical compounds, blood and tissues.

I explained that our chemicals were mainly strong solutions of formaldehyde and water, and that the procedure would probably alter the body's chemical composition. I offered to come out to the base to assist with any problem he might have, but he reiterated that the information was for future use. I suggested that if he had such a situation that I would try to freeze the body in dry ice for storage and transportation.

(6) Approximately a hour or an hour and 15 minutes later, I got a call to transport a serviceman who had a laceration on his head and perhaps a fractured nose. I gave him first aid and drove him out to the base. I got there around 5:00 PM.

(7) Although I was a civilian, I usually had free access on the base because they knew me. I drove the ambulance around to the back of the base infirmary and parked it next to another ambulance. The door was open and inside I saw some wreckage. There were several pieces which looked like the bottom of a canoe, about three feet in length. It resembled stainless steel with a purple hue, as if it had been exposed to high temperature. There was some stange-looking writing on the material resembling Egyptian hieroglyphics. Also there were two MPs present.

(8) I checked the airman in and went to the staff lounge to have a Coke. I intended to look for a nurse, a 2nd Lieutenant, who had been commissioned about three months earlier right out of college. She was 23 years of age at the time (I was 22). I saw her coming out of one of the examining rooms with a cloth over her mouth. She said, "My gosh, get out of here or you're going to be in a lot of trouble." She went into another door where a Captain stood. He asked me who I was and what I was doing here.

I told him, and he instructed me to stay there. I said, "It looks like you've got a crash; would you like me to get ready?" He told me to stay right there. Then two MPs came up and began to escort me out of the infirmary. They said they had orders to follow me out to the funeral home.

(9) We got about 10 or 15 feet when I heard a voice say, "We're not through with that SOB. Bring him back." There was another Captain, a redhead with the meanest-looking eyes I had ever seen, who said, "You did not see anything, there was no crash here, and if you say anything you could get into a lot of trouble." I said, "Hey look mister, I'm a civilian and you can't do a damn thing to me." He said, "Yes we can; somebody will be picking your bones out of the sand." There was a black Sergeant with a pad in his hand who said, "He would make good dog food for our dogs." The Captain said, "Get the SOB out." The MPs followed me back to the funeral home.

(10) The next day [Sunday, July 6th], I tried to call the nurse to see what was going on. About 11:00 AM, she called the funeral home and said, "I need to talk to you." We agreed to meet at the officers club. She was very upset. She said, "Before I talk to you, you have to give me a sacred oath that you will never mention my name, because I could get into a lot of trouble." I agreed. [Later said to be identified as Naomi Self, but this seems impossible to verify]

(11) She said she had gone to get supplies in a room where two doctors were performing a preliminary autopsy. The doctors said they needed her to take notes during the procedure. She said she had never smelled anything so horrible in her life, and the sight was the most gruesome she had ever seen. She said, "This was something no one has ever seen." As she spoke, I was concerned that she might go into shock.

(12) She drew me a diagram of the bodies, including an arm with a hand that had only four fingers; the doctors noted that on the end of the fingers were little pads resembling suction cups. She said the head was disproportionately large for the body; the eyes were deeply set; the skulls were flexible; the nose was concave with only two orifices; the mouth was a fine slit, and the doctors said there was heavy cartilage instead of teeth. The ears were only small orifices with flaps. They had no hair, and the skin was black--perhaps due to exposure in the sun. She gave me the drawings.

[EDIT: Drawing included with Dennis' affidavit by artist Walter Henn, based on Dennis' recollections of drawings originally made by the alleged Roswell nurse.]






(13) There were three bodies; two were very mangled and dismembered, as if destroyed by predators; one was fairly intact. They were three-and-a-half to four feet tall. She told me the doctors said: "This isn't anything we've ever see before; there's nothing in the medical textbooks like this." She said she and the doctors became ill. They had to turn off the air conditioning and were afraid the smell would go through the hospital. They had to move the operation to an airplane hangar.

(14) I drove her back to the officers' barracks. The next day [Monday, July 7th] I called the hospital to see how she was, and they said she wasn't available. I tried to get her for several days, and finally got one of the nurses who said the Lieutenant had been transferred out with some other personnel. About 10 days to two weeks later, I got a letter from her with an APO number. She indicated we could discuss the incident by letter in the future. I wrote back to her and about two weeks later the letter came back marked "Return to Sender--DECEASED." Later, one of the nurses at the base said the rumor was that she and five other nurses had been on a training mission and had been killed in a plane crash.

(15) Sheriff George Wilcox and my father were very close friends. The Sheriff went to my folks' house the morning after the events at the base and said to my father, "I don't know what kind of trouble Glenn's in, but you tell your son that he doesn't know anything and hasn't seen anything at the base." He added, "They want you and your wife's name, and they want your and your children's addresses." My father immediately drove to the funeral home and asked me what kind of trouble I was in. He related the conversation with Sheriff Wilcox, and so I told him about the events of the previous day. He is the only person to whom I have told this story until recently.

(16) I had filed away the sketches the nurse gave me that day. Recently, at the request of a researcher, I tried to locate my personal files at the funeral home, but they had all been destroyed.

(17) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: Glenn Dennis
Date: 8-7-91

Signature witnessed by:
Walter G. Haut [NOTE : Yes, the press officer for the RAAF]


The bodies are sealed into a long crate, which is taken to a hangar. It is left there overnight with spotlights playing on it while MPs stand guard around it. They never approach it.

Melvin Brown, along with other soldiers, is ordered to stand guard outside the hanger. Brown's commanding officer approaches and says, "Come on, Brownie, let's have a look inside." But there is nothing to see because everything has been packed and crated, ready for shipment.

Sometimes, but not too often, he used to say that he saw a man from outer space. That used to make us all giggle like mad. He said he had to stand guard duty outside a hangar where a crashed flying saucer was stored, and that his commanding officer said, "Come on, Brownie, let's have a look inside." But they didn't see anything because it had all been packed up and [was] ready to be flown out to Texas.

Melvin’s daughter Beverly’s testimony (see previous link for source)

Some timelines state that Military bases along the West Coast had fighters on standby in case the flying disks were seen and that a few bases in Oregon and Washington had planes equipped with gun cameras on airborne alert. This is correct to a degree, but largely stemming from Kenneth Arnold’s sighting days earlier, not necessarily because of the crash.

At this point, the military likely believes it has contained the incident. This would explain the high level response that comes from the RAAF (i.e. sending it’s senior intelligence officer) upon Brazel’s later find and bringing the debris into town, as the RAAF already knows what the debris is in regards to.

On to the first site, the Foster Ranch…

Following the rain the night before, Brazel inspects the pastures surrounding the ranch house. Riding with him is the young son of the Proctors, William D. Proctor. During the inspection, Brazel discovers a large debris field. Scattered on the slopes and into the sinkhole and depressions are metal, plastic-like beams, pieces of lightweight material and foil-like material. The debris is thick enough that the sheep refuse to cross the field and are driven around it to water more than a mile away.

Brazel, taking a few scraps of the material, heads to the home of his closest neighbors, Floyd and Loretta Proctor. He shows them "a little sliver" of material that he can neither burn nor cut. The Proctors suggest he take it into town to show the sheriff.

Later that evening, Brazel removes the large, circular piece of the debris from the range. Brazel either loads it into the back of his truck or drags it along behind. He stores it in a livestock shed about three miles nqrth of the crash site.

(The above is paraphrased from the Crash at Corona by Friedmann, and as found on NICAP’s timeline (link is in Part I of this series), and also comes from numerous testimony over the years by those involved. Much of which has been covered in Part II, but below is an excerpt from Crash at Corona)


William "Mac" Brazel (rhymes with
"frazzle") and his 7-year-old neighbor Dee Proctor found the
remains of the crashed flying saucer. Brazel was foreman of
the Foster Ranch. The pieces were spread out over a large
area, perhaps more than half a mile long. When Brazel drove
Dee back home, he showed a piece of the wreckage to Dee's
parents, Floyd and Loretta Proctor. They all agreed the
piece was unlike anything they had ever seen.


The next day, we get into Mac Brazel taking some of the debris into Roswell, and the involvement between him and the military begins. Keep in mind, this is still a couple days before the famous newspaper headline breaks. At this point, the military has no knowledge of the secondary debris field at the Foster Ranch, nor does Brazel have any idea about the second site or the bodies found.

[TO BE CONTINUED]

[Frank Sobotka]

Could you divide this into more clear chapters?
I'm not reading all of that.

[Fatal Guillotine]

no i wont, the information can be printed out

[Fatal Guillotine]

The Mysterious Case of the Montreal UFO of 1994;


November 7, 1990. It's about 7:15 in the evening. An American woman tourist is swimming in the outdoor rooftop pool on the 17th floor of the International Hilton Bonaventure Hotel in downtown Montreal, when she notices a strange lighted object in the night sky. The object is directly overhead and looks like "an oval shape with a yellowish colour". She notifies the hotel's pool lifeguard, Mrs. L.S.P., who in turn alerts the hotel's security officer, Mr. A.S. Intrigued by the stationary unknown object, the security officer telephones the MUCP (Montreal Urban Community Police) for assistance. Meanwhile the pool's lifeguard has urged guests to come outside to look at what she herself later described as "a lighted object with six lights on the perimeter of a large circle with a ray of light emitted from each one". Mrs. L.S.P. then notifies La Presse, one of Canada's major newspapers. La Presse takes the story seriously and sends out reporter Marcel LAROCHE to investigate.

Some five minutes before Mr. LAROCHE arrives at the hotel, the object had become brighter, prompting the security officer to contact the police station a second time. Officer François LIPPE of the MUCP is dispatched at 8:07 and arrives at the hotel about five minutes later. In his report, Officer LIPPE describes the object as "three yellowish lights from each of which a single beam of light emanated". He added that "the object itself was luminous and round and did not appear to move".

Meanwhile several other people in and around Montreal are witnessing unusual lights in the sky. Among them is Bernard GUENETTE, a computer graphics expert and member of the then Texas based Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). GUENETTE later compared what he saw to "a small greenish Aurora Borealis-like phenomenon with long streamers extending out from it". The time is circa 7:30 p.m.. He watches the luminous phenomenon for 30 to 60 seconds from a spot in Old Montreal, about a mile ("ten city blocks") east-southeast from the hotel. GUENETTE is accompanied by a second witness. Both men agree that the phenomenon is at a very high altitude and not moving.

Back on the rooftop, Officier LIPPE, the security officer and the pool's lifeguard notice a small private aircraft flying directly beneath the clouds and much farther below the object.

At 8:20 Officer LIPPE telephones Sergeant MASSON of the MUCP for backup. Overwhelmed by what he sees when he arrives at the 17th floor, the Sergeant calls the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP). The time is now 8:44. An investigator, Officer Luc MORIN, is assigned to handle the case. The RCMP investigator arrives at the hotel at approximately 9:30 p.m. and informs the other witnesses that contact has been made with the Commander of Military Operations of the country's Department of National Defence. The latter has assured him that no military operations are being held in the area. Officer LIPPE then calls the MUCP's District Director, who in turn also telephones the RCMP for immediate "in situ assistance".

Also contacted is Montreal's international airport at Dorval. The operators at the control tower confirm that there have been other calls by people seeing a strange object over the city, but they emphasize that nothing has appeared on the airport's radar screen.

About half an hour earlier, at 9 o'clock, two more journalists from La Presse (Mr. J. BELIVEAU and Mr. R. MAILLOUX) arrived at the hotel. It was at about that time that their colleague Mr. LAROCHE started taking pictures of the object. Not being a professional photographer himself, he telephoned a photographer at the newspaper and asked for advice. Mr. LAROCHE was told to stabilize his camera on a bench nearby and use a 30 second exposure






The two pictures taken by La Presse reporter Marcel LAROCHE on November 7, 1990. LAROCHE used a Nikon FS 35 mm single lens reflex camera, fitted with a 50 mm lens and set to infinity focus with aperture at f /1.8.
[images were scanned from colour copies included in the HAINES/GUENETTE report]

An MUCP officer who arrives at the scene at 9:45 in the hope of gathering more photographic evidence, finally decides not to take any pictures "because the clouds were too thick".

According to investigator MORIN the object disappeared from sight at about 10:10 "due to increasingly dense cloud cover".

The day after the sighting, and after the incident had been covered by La Presse, journalist BELIVEAU received a letter from someone claiming that his friend had witnessed the object from his small airplane. Although the pilot/witness completed a MUFON sighting form, no useful details surfaced. The pilot himself declined any further interviews and a direct link with the plane spotted during the sighting could not be made.

In 1992 GUENETTE, together with Dr. Richard F. HAINES (a well-known ufo researcher and psychologist formerly employed by NASA), published a 25 page report of the sightings.


The report concludes that "the evidence for the existence of a highly unusual, hovering, silent large object is indisputable". Basing themselves on the available eyewitness testimonies, they add that "a reasonable lower bound for the angular size of the object's central 'oval body' as seen from the roof of the B(onaventure) H(otel) is 27 degrees arc". Having established this angular size, the authors calculate the actual size for the "main body of the object" to have been no less than 1,783 feet (585 m) across if it was at 3,500 feet (1,148 m) altitude, or 4,586 feet (1,504 m) if it was at 9,000 feet (2,953 m).

We end this case summary with a compilation of six sketches made by some of the principal witnesses.







Sketch by the hotel's pool lifeguard,
Mrs. L.S.P.
Sketch by the hotel's security officer, Mr. A.S.

Sketch from the RCMP files, possibly drawn
by Officer François LIPPE of the MUCP.
Sketch by Officer Luc MORIN,
investigator for the RCMP.

Sketch by journalist Marcel LAROCHE,
author of the two pictures shown above. Sketch by journalist J. BELIVEAU.

http://www.caelestia.be/index.html




In 1992 GUENETTE, together with Dr. Richard F. HAINES (a well-known ufo researcher and psychologist formerly employed by NASA), published a 25 page report of the sightings. The report concludes that "the evidence for the existence of a highly unusual, hovering, silent large object is indisputable". Basing themselves on the available eyewitness testimonies, they add that "a reasonable lower bound for the angular size of the object's central 'oval body' as seen from the roof of the B(onaventure) H(otel) is 27 degrees arc". Having established this angular size, the authors calculate the actual size for the "main body of the object" to have been no less than 1,783 feet (585 m) across if it was at 3,500 feet (1,148 m) altitude, or 4,586 feet (1,504 m) if it was at 9,000 feet (2,953 m)


There are multiple theories on what was seen that night , Aurora , light reflections even a Stealth Bomber , but looking at the photo it does appear to show a structured object .

http://www.caelestia.be/montreal.html


http://archives.cbc.ca/science_techn...pics/725-4366/

[pro.Graveface]

yo Big up Fatal great stuff in 1 thread!!!!! I got a open mind to this , it also happened to me once in '98 that I encountered a star like flying object in the sky at round 5 in the morning, it hovered and flipped like 100 to 500 meterz in the sky away from me, like it was checkin some sjit out. and vanished like scifi with 15 secondz +-, it had a orange/yellow/reddish star colour and shape like round and it was mad fast it looked at certan pointz like teleportation, cant say what it was and what or who controlled it, I was like 15 or 16 and I cant forget it , jus was 1 of those bizarre momentz like what da duckus i just saw!!

[V4D3R]

Good thread Guillotine. I dint read through all of this but did you mention the Billy Meier stories?

[V4D3R]

yo Big up Fatal great stuff in 1 thread!!!!! I got a open mind to this , it also happened to me once in '98 that I encountered a star like flying object in the sky at round 5 in the morning, it hovered and flipped like 100 to 500 meterz in the sky away from me, like it was checkin some sjit out. and vanished like scifi with 15 secondz +-, it had a orange/yellow/reddish star colour and shape like round and it was mad fast it looked at certan pointz like teleportation, cant say what it was and what or who controlled it, I was like 15 or 16 and I cant forget it , jus was 1 of those bizarre momentz like what da duckus i just saw!!

I have seen many many many of these "orbs" in Calgary Alberta and so have others. Those things you can telepathically talk to them and call them.

[pro.Graveface]

I have seen many many many of these "orbs" in Calgary Alberta and so have others. Those things you can telepathically talk to them and call them.

so what are thiese, spiritual orbz and u talk with em , How?telepath i know what this is but what are yall talkin about? its like yearz ago that I saw this, yeah i see now and then some weird sjit in the sky on a mad distance but nuthin like what occurd then, i found info on my particular monemt that anothether person saw this 2 in that area and in that time but I never spoke to him I found it at a ufo site where u can report sighting a few monthz back i was over exited to find more on my experience but every time Im tellin this, peeps look at me like im nutz , maby I com across unbelieveble

[Fatal Guillotine]

THE CASE FOR ROSWELL PART III

The Timeline of Events
Section D

This next to last section of Part III starts with the day before the story is released to the press, and then Section E continues with the hectic day of the press release and the now infamous headlines, and then the cover story. Part IV (hopefully this won’t be more than one thread) will then deal with the immediate aftermath of the event, as well as aftermath throughout the years.

Monday, July 7,1947

(Most timeline information is from the generally accepted timeline stated by NICAP, followed then by supporting data from various and checked sources. Events not supported by good evidence or testimony are omitted from my timeline. Special thanks to the work of David Rudiak, so often cited throughout)

At 2:00A.M. a special flight leaves for Andrews AAF in Washington, D.C. containing some of the debris.


Meanwhile, in Fort Worth, Col. Thomas Dubose, Gen. Ramey's Chief of Staff, said he was notified of the find by Gen. Clemence McMullen in Washington, acting head of the Strategic Air Command. Dubose said McMullen ordered him to fly some debris samples immediately to Washington by "colonel courier." (This debris was possibly samples that Brazel had brought with him to Roswell when he reported his discovery.) McMullen instructed Dubose that everything was to be carried out in the strictest secrecy.



Col. Thomas Dubose



Supported by Dubose’s affidavit here:


(5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen.

(6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy.


In interviews, Dubose has described the events.


(Dubose also added that he was handling the situation because Ramey was away from the base at the time. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram and Ramey's home-town newspaper, the Denton (TX) Record-Chronicle, documents that he was at an airshow in Denton all day on Sunday, July 6.)




Dubose said he met the flight from Roswell early that night. The debris was in a sealed, opaque bag attached to the courier's wrist. The bag of debris was transferred to another plane and to the Fort Worth AAF commanding officer, Col. Alvin Clark, who acted as the new courier. This flight then headed to Washington.

Dubose added that McMullen later told him that the debris was then forwarded to Wright Field, Ohio, on McMullen's personal plane. Wright Field was the home of the AAF's aeronautical labs, which would have been a suitable place to have the debris analyzed. Dubose said he was also told the matter went straight to the White House.


This further is corroborated by the memo in Ramey’s hands in the photos the next day…


This earlier shipment of wreckage to Fort Worth spoken of by Dubose may be alluded to in the Ramey memo when it mentions "...THE WRECK YOU FORWARDED TO ... FORT WORTH, TEX."


[img]http://www.roswellproof.com/files/ramey_memo_s.jpg[img]


By the way, if I haven’t listed it already, here’s an excellent link to the deciphering of the memo…
http://www.roswellproof.com/reconstruct.html

After spending the night at the ranch house, Brazel and the two military officers (Marcel and Cavitt) go out to the crash site. It is three-quarters of a mile long and two to three hundred feet wide. A gouge starting at the northern end of it extends for four or five hundred feet toward the other end. It looks as if something has touched down and skipped along. The largest piece of debris is recovered at the southern edge of the gouge. Testimony from interviews and affidavits of Marcel and Brazel, as well as a ranch-hand, Tommy Tyree, all corroborate the size of the debris field. Even Bessie Brazel, the skeptics’ star witness, corroborates the size of the debris field in her testimony. I’ll include some of these just as examples.


"He [Brazel] took us to that place, and we started picking up fragments, which was foreign to me. I'd never seen anything like that. I didn't know what we were picking up. I still don't know. As of this day, I still don't know what it was. And I brought as much of it back to the base as I could and -- Well, some ingenious young GI thought he'd try to match a few pieces together and see if he could match something. I don't think he ever matched two pieces. It was so fragmented. It was strewn over a wide area, I guess maybe three-quarters of a mile long and a few hundred feet wide. So we loaded it up and we came back to the base." – Major Jesse Marcel, 1979 Bob Pratt interview



They came out on the side of a hill. In front of them was a shallow, narrow valley with a rounded, rocky area at one end. The other end opened gradually until it was nothing more than a pasture sloping down into another, bigger valley. "The gouge started up there and moved down in that direction," said Brazel. He described the gouge as running from the northwest to the southeast. It looked as if the thing had hit and bounced, scattering debris in the field. The gouge wasn't very deep but was about ten feet wide in places. The whole thing was about five hundred feet long. – Bill Brazel Jr., interviews with Randle and Schmidt.


Here is where most timelines go into the debris. This is largely covered in Part II of this posting series, so I’d refer the reader to that section for more detail on it.

Marcel and Cavitt walk the perimeter of the field and then range out looking for more details or another crash site, but find nothing else. Finally they return and spend the remainder of the day collecting debris. Cavitt returns to the base first in a Jeep carry-all with some of the debris. Marcel followed towards the end of the day, in a Buick staff car. He stops home first, and shows his son (now Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr.) and his wife some of the debris. (Jesse Jr.’s testimony is in Part II).

Though this is about 2am of July 8th when he stops by the house, it made more sense to include it on Monday’s timeline. Tuesday’s timeline will begin with the 6am meeting with Blanchard. Since nothing is classified at this point, this is not a security violation on Marcel’s part.

Lieutenant General Nathan E Twining, the commander of the Air Materiel Command, the parent organization at Wright Field, Ohio, and the next higher headquarters for both the Alamogordo Army Air Field and the Kirtland Army Air Field, (allegedly) changes his plans and flies into Alamogordo.

In my research, it appears that this wasn’t a change of plans, but that he went there to attend a Bomb Commander’s Course, and had submitted such a request about a month earlier. Of course, this could be planted, but the important factor for me was that both believers and skeptics agree that Twining was flying into Alamogordo on this date. Those who’ve read Corso’s “Day After Roswell”, will quickly pick up on the importance of Twining’s involvement here.

Intrigued by the story Frank Joyce (of the local radio station) has told him about the telephone interview he'd conducted with Brazel (when Brazel got to the Sherrif’s office Sunday), Walt Whitmore, Sr., wants to learn more. Whitmore, who knows many of the ranchers and is familiar with the area, drives out to find Brazel. Brazel, now in the company of Walt Whitmore, Sr., has been asked to stay the night in Roswell.


Frank Joyce


Sometime on Monday, July 7, 1947, William Ware "Mack" Brazel was picked up at his ranch and whisked back to Roswell for an exclusive interview at KGFL.

George "Jud" Roberts, minority owner of the station, later said, "They hid him out at Whit's [Walt Whitmore Sr.'s] house. Kept him there overnight." The KGFL staff made a wire recording of their Q&A with the rancher, but because KGFL had already signed off for the day they planned to break the full story the next morning.

http://www.scifi.com/ufo/roswell/articles/008.html

John McBoyle, a reporter for radio station KSWS in Roswell, tries to reach the crash site. He phones to report an object looking like a crushed dishpan. He tells Lydia Sleppy, who works at the parent station in Albuquerque, to hang on. She overhears an argument and then McBoyle tells her to forget it, he has made a mistake. McBoyle is about forty miles north of Roswell. Sleppy tries to put a message out on the Teletype. According to Sleppy, the message is intercepted by the FBI in Dallas and she is ordered not to complete the transmission. The following is Sleppy’s affidavit.

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Sleppy.html

1) My name is Lydia A Sleppy

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I am employed as: _________________________________
(X)I am retired: 9/30/77 from State of California, Dept. Parks & Recreation

(4) In 1947, worked at KOAT Radio in Albuquerque, New Mexico. My duties included operating the station's teletype machine, which received news and allowed us to send stories to the ABC and Mutual networks, with which KOAT was affiliated.

(5) In early July 1947, I received a call from John McBoyle, general manager and part-owner of KSWS Radio in Roswell, New Mexico, which was associated with KOAT. I do not remember the exact date, but it definitely was a weekday (I never worked weekends) and almost certainly after the Fourth of July. The call came in before noon. (from all sources, this is July 7, 1947)

(6) McBoyle said he had something hot for the network. I asked Karl Lambertz, our program director and acting manager (KOAT owner and manager Merle Tucker was out of town), to be present in my office while I took the story from McBoyle and put it on the teletype. Using the teletype, I alerted ABC News headquarters in Hollywood to expect an important story, and Mr. Lambertz stood behind me while I typed.

(7) To the best of my recollection, McBoyle said, "There's been one of these flying saucer things crash down here north of Roswell." He said he had been in a coffee shop on his morning break when a local rancher, "Mac" Brazel, came in and said he had discovered the object some time ago while he was out riding on the range, and that he had towed it in and stored it underneath a shelter on his property. Brazel offered to take McBoyle to the ranch to see the object. McBoyle described it as "a big crumpled dishpan."

(8) As I typed McBoyle's story, a bell rang on the teletype, indicating an interruption. The machine then printed a message something to this effect: "THIS IS THE FBI. YOU WILL IMMEDIATELY CEASE ALL COMMUNICATION." Whatever the precise words were, I definitely remember the message was from the FBI and that it directed me to stop transmitting. I told McBoyle the teletype had been cut off and took the rest of his story in shorthand, but we never put it on the wire because we had been scooped by the papers.

(9) I never again discussed the matter with McBoyle, but the next day, he told Mr. Lambertz the military had isolated the area where the saucer was found and was keeping the press out. He told Lambertz he saw planes come in from Wright Field, Ohio, to take the thing away. He also said they claimed they were going to take it to one place, but the planes went to another. Either they were supposed to have gone to Texas but went to Wright Field or vice versa.

(10) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: Lydia A. Sleppy
Date: 9-14-93

Signature witnessed by:
Ada A Somers


The next day is the day that everything breaks. The Press Release from the base is sent to the papers, and all hell breaks loose.

(To Be Continued)

[Fatal Guillotine]

This last section of Part III continues with the hectic day of the press release and the now infamous headlines, and then the cover story. Part IV will then deal with the immediate aftermath of the event, as well as aftermath throughout the years.

Tuesday. July 8.1947;

At 6:00 A.M. Marcel and Cavitt visit with Blanchard in his quarters and tell him what they have seen. This is according to countless interviews with Marcel.

Blanchard calls the provost marshal and orders him to post guards on the roads around the debris field, denying access to anyone without official business. Easley is directed to locate Brazel and have him escort the MPs to the crash site. This military cordon is supported by various sources, including the “Ramey Memo”. (as well as the acknowledgement that this NEW find means more than one site)


A staff meeting was called on how to deal with the situation. A major recovery operation at the ranch was ordered, which is alluded to in the Ramey message when it mentions new finds, including victims, "NEAR OPERATION AT THE 'RANCH'"

A military cordon was also set up to seal off the area, particularly north of Roswell along highway 285, blocking all access roads to the west. This cordon is likewise mentioned in the Ramey memo. "A 'DISK'" was the "NEXT NEW FIND WEST OF THE CORDON."





Map provided for illustration purposes, should note that as mentioned in earlier threads, Kaufmann is regarded as a fraud by most (myself included), however his crash site and the military cordon are supported by other witnesses, so this map is a fairly decent illustration of this. Ragsdale is also an unreliable witness. The sites shown as 2 and 3 (or near those 2) seem to be the most supported for the craft recovery site...with site 1 being a definite for debris.

William Moody’s testimony (mentioned in earlier threads) and others’ reinforces the fact that a military cordon was in place. Because both sites would be accessed by the same roads, it’s difficult to determine which cordon is being referred to by many (i.e. the one from the July 4th late recovery of the main craft, or the July 8th recovery of the Brazel site debris) Going through all of this again, I noticed the days given mean Moody encountered the blockade on the 8th, not the late 4th/early 5th blockade.


(8) My father knew the territory, all its roads, and many of the people very well, so two or three days later (definitely not the next day), he decided to look for the object. He took me with him in our old flatbed truck. We headed north through Roswell on U.S. 285. About 19 miles north of town, where the highway crosses the Macho Draw, we saw at least one uniformed soldier stationed beside the road. As we drove along, we saw more sentries and Army vehicles. They were stationed at all places -- ranch roads, crossroads, etc.--where there was access to leave the highway and drive east or west, and they were armed, some with rifles, others with sidearms. I do not remember seeing any military activity on the ranchland beyond the highway right of way.

(9) We stopped at one sentry post, and my father asked a soldier what was going on. The soldier, who's attitude was very nice, just said his orders were not to let anyone leave 285 and go into the countryside.

(10) As we drove north, we saw that the Corona road (State 247), which runs west from Highway 285, was blocked by soldiers. We went on as far as Ramon, about nine miles north of the 247 intersection. There were sentries there, too. At Ramon we turned around and head south and home.

(11) I remember my father saying he thought the Army was looking for something it had tracked on its way down. He may have gotten this from the soldier he spoke with during our drive up 285, but I am not sure.

(12) I also recall that two neighbors, both now dead, stopped by and told my father they had seen the same object we had seen. One said others in his family had seen it too. There were many rumors about flying saucers that summer, and I recall the weather balloon story, explaining away the report of a flying saucer crash near Corona. This seemed reasonable to us at the time.


Blanchard calls Eighth Air Force headquarters and advises them of the new find. By this time no one believes the material is from a Soviet device. The following is testimony from the affidavit of newspaper editor for the Roswell Morning Dispatch. Art McQuiddy, a close friend of Blanchard. (this affidavit will be in it’s entirety later in this post)


(8) Colonel William H. ("Butch") Blanchard, commander of RAAF and its 509th Bomb Group, was a good friend of mine. We often got together for a drink and off the record discussions of base-town relations and the like. After the flying saucer incident, I tried several times to get Blanchard to tell me the real story, but he repeatedly refused to talk about it.

(9) About three or four months after the event, when we were a bit more "relaxed" than usual, I tried again. Blanchard reluctantly admitted he had authorized the press release. Then, as best I remember, he said, "I will tell you this and nothing more. The stuff I saw, I've never seen anyplace else in my life." That was all he would say, and he never told me anything else about the matter,


Doesn’t sound like he saw a balloon to me…

Eighth Air Force relays the message up the chain of command to SAC headquarters.

The regular morning staff meeting is moved up to 7:30 A.M. Blanchard discusses the new find and its possible disposition. Attending the meeting are Marcel and Cavitt; Lieutenant Colonel James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Major Patrick Saunders, the base adjutant; Major Isidore Brown, the personnel officer; and Lieutenant Colonel Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer. There is reason to believe that Lieutenant Colonel Charles W Horton, Lieutenant Colonel Fernand L. Andry; Lieutenant Walter Haut, and Master Sergeant Lewis Rickett may have also been there.

Whitmore, his wire-recorded interview with Brazel completed, takes Brazel out to the military base.

At 9:00 A.M. Cavitt and Rickett, having returned from assignment in Carlsbad, drive a staff car to the impact site, followed by MPs. They are stopped by the guards who are still posted. When they arrive, they see that a small containment of debris remains (cleanup had already largely been done) which Rickett is allowed to examine.


Rickett remembered seeing only the foil-like debris and mentioned its peculiar characteristics of unusual lightness and strength. He also said, "There wasn't very much of it, maybe 40 or 50 small pieces." – Pflock



"The MP's, four or five in the first group, were close to the gouge. There were 25 or 30 others scattered around the perimeter. The Provost Marshall didn't want anyone just wandering up on it." – Master Sergeant Lewis Rickett, Randle and Schmidt interview


Whitmore of KGFL receives a phone call from Washington. He is told not to air the interview with Mac Brazel. If he does, the station will lose its broadcast license.

Blanchard and members of the staff confer by phone with higher headquarters. Brigadier General Roger Ramey orders Marcel to Fort Worth.
Military officers begin to interrogate Mac Brazel. He is taken to the guest house.

At 11:00 A.M. Walter Haut finishes the press release he'd been ordered to write and is preparing to take it into town. He takes it first to one of the radio stations. By noon he has given a copy of the release to both radio stations and to both daily newspapers. This is where we get the famous Roswell Daily Record headline…




The affidavit of Arthur McQuiddy, editor of the Roswell Morning Dispatch (the other newspaper in town)


(1) My name is Arthur R. McQuiddy

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I am employed as: __________________________________,( ) retired

(4) In July 1947, I was editor of the Roswell Morning Dispatch, one of the
two newspapers here at the time. In 1948, I left the paper to become public relations director of the New Mexico Oil and Gas Association and later joined U.S. Stell as director of media relations. About eleven years ago I returned to Roswell after retiring as senior vice president for corporate relations at International Harvester.

(5) Just before noon one day early in July 1947, Walter Haut, the public relations officer at Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF), brough a press release to me in the Dispatch office. The release said a crashed flying saucer had een found, taken to RAAF, and sent on to another base.

(6) Haut had been to the two local radio stations, KGFL and KSWS, before coming to the Dispatch, so I gave him a bad time about that. Haut said the base policy was to rotate who got releases first to make sure everyone got a ir shake. We were a morning apper, so our edition for that day had long since hit the street, but I was disappointed at not being able to break the story on the Associated Press wire. George Walsh, the program manager at KSWS, had already moved the story on AP.

(7) Not long after Haut left, a call came from RAAF. The caller said the release was incorrect, that what had been though to be the wreckage of a flying saucer was actually the remains of a radiosonde balloon. However, the AP wire story had gotten the world's attention. I spent the rest of the afternoon taking long distance calls from overseas news editors. I remember calls from Rome, London, Paris, and Hong Kong.

(8) Colonel William H. ("Butch") Blanchard, commander of RAAF and its 509th Bomb Group, was a good friend of mine. We often got together for a drink and off the record discussions of base-town relations and the like. After the flying saucer incident, I tried several times to get Blanchard to tell me the real story, but he repeatedly refused to talk about it.

(9) About three or four months after the event, when we were a bit more "relaxed" than usual, I tried again. Blanchard reluctantly admitted he had authorized the press release. Then, as best I remember, he said, "I will tell you this and nothing more. The stuff I saw, I've never seen anyplace else in my life." That was all he would say, and he never told me anything else about the matter,

(10) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: Arthur R. McQuiddy
Oct. 19, 1993

Signature witnessed by:
Charlotte Y. Gipson, 10-19-93


Sheriff Wilcox, wondering what happened out at the crash site, sends two more deputies out. This time they run into the cordon thrown up by the rnilitary and are turned back. The army is letting no unauthorized personnel onto the crash site.

A large part of the next events involves various teletypes from both the United Press (UP) and Associated Press (AP). Some of these are from originals possessed by Frank Joyce, others were on file from these entities. Frank’s copies have been confirmed by UP.

At 2:26 P.M. the story is out on the AP (Associated Press) wire. The story announces: "The army air forces here today announced a flying disc had been found." This was the Roswell base press release from Walter Haut. The following (in quotes) is the AP wire:


"Roswell, N.M. The army air forces here today announced a flying disk had been found on a ranch near Roswell and is in army possession."


The phones at the base start ringing. Irritated at his inability to get a line out, Blanchard orders Haut to do something about all the incoming calls. Haut says there is nothing he could do about incoming calls. (from Haut's interviews)

Robert Shirkey, standing in the operations building, watches as MPs begin carrying wreckage through to load onto a C-54 from the First Air Transport Unit. To see better, he has to step around Colonel Blanchard. (Shirkey's affidavit given later in this post)

At 2:30 PM. Blanchard decides it is time to go on leave. Too many phone callers into the base are asking to speak with him. He, along with a few members of his staff, drive out to the debris field. Those left at the base are told to inform the reporters that the colonel is now on leave.
Relating to the AP Press Release:


It said that Lt. Warren Haught [sic], public information officer of Roswell field, announced the object had been found "sometime last week." And the story also said the object had been sent on "to higher headquarters."


At 2:41 PM. A UP (United Press) teletype states the following (from Frank Joyce’s saved originals)


DXR (Denver UP Office) 54
MORE FLYING DISC (DXR53)

-0-
THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICE REPORTS THAT IT GAINED POSSESSION OF THE
"DIS:" THROUGH THE COOPERATION OF A ROSWELL RANCHER AND SHERIFF
GEORGE WILSON OF ROSWELL.
THE DISC LANDED ON A RANCH NEAR ROSWELL SOMETIME LAST WEEK. NOT
HAVING PHONE FACILITIES, THE RANCHER, WHOSE NAME HAS NOT YET BEEN
OBTAINED, STORED THE DISC UNTIL SUCH TIME AS HE WAS ABLE TO
CONTACT THE ROSWELL SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN TURN NOTIFIED A MAJOR OF THE 509TH
INTELLIGENCE OFFICE.
ACTION WAS TAKEN IMMEDIATELY AND THE DISC WAS PICKED UP AT THE
RANCHER'S HOME AND TAKEN TO THE ROSWELL AIR BASE. FOLLOWING
EXAMINATION, THE DISC WAS FLOWN BY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS IN A SUPER-
FORTRESS TO AN UNDISCLOSED "HIGHER HEADQUARTERS."
THE AIR BASE HAS REFUSED TO GIVE DETAILS OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE DISC
OR OF ITS APPEARANCE.
RESIDENTS NEAR THE RANCH ON WHICH THE DISC WAS FOUND REPORTED
SEEING A STRANGE BLUE LIGHT SEVERAL DAYS AGO ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK IN
THE MORNING.
J241P 7/8


At 2:55 PM. the AP reports in a "95," just under a bulletin in importance, that a flying disk had been found. (and where)

At 3:00 P.M. Marcel is told that he is going to Fort Worth with the wreckage. Only a few packages are loaded onto the plane. One, a triangular package about two feet long, is wrapped in brown paper. The other three are about the size of shoe boxes. They are so light that it feels as if there is nothing in them. The special flight, a B-29, takes off for the Fort Worth Army Air Field. Affadavit of 1st Lieutenant Robert Shirkey:


(1) My name is Robert Shirkey

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I am ( ) retired ( ) employed as: __________________________________

(4) In July 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air field with the rank of 1st Lieutenant. I served as the assistant flight safety officer and was assigned to base operations for the 509th Bomb Group.

(5) During that period, the call a B-29 ready to go as soon as possible. Its destination was to be Fort Worth, on orders from the base commander, Col. Blanchard. I was in the Operations Office when Col. Blanchard arrived. He asked if the aircraft was ready. When he was told it was, Blanchard waved to somebody, and approximately five people came in the front door, down the hallway and on to the ramp to climb into the airplane, carrying parts of what I heard was the crashed flying saucer.

(6) At this time, I asked Col. Blanchard to turn sideways so I could see what was going on. I saw them carrying what appeared to be pieces of metal; there was one piece that was 18 x 24 inches, brushed stainless steel in color. I also saw what was described by another witness as an I-beam and markings.

(7) Several days later, a B-25 was scheduled to take something to Ft. Worth. This was the second flight during this period: the third was a B-29 piloted by Oliver W. "Pappy" Henderson directly to Wright-Patterson.

(8) I learned later that a Sergeant and some airmen went to the crash site and swept up everything, including bodies. The bodies were laid out in Hanger 84. Henderson's flight contained all that material.

(9) All of those involved--the Sergeant of the Guards, all of the crewmen, and myself--were shipped out to different bases within two weeks.

(10) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: Robert Shirkey
30 April 1991

Signature witnessed by:
Lupe V. Sandoval


Also corroborated by another, Master Sergeant Robert Porter (his affidavit)


(1) My name is Robert R. Porter

(2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX

(3) I am (X) retired ( ) employed as: __________________________________

(4) In July 1947, I was a Master Sergeant in the U.S. Army Air Force, stationed at Roswell, New Mexico. I was a flight engineer. My job entailed taking care of the engines in flight, maintaining weight and balance, and I was responsible for fuel management. We mostly flew B-29s.

(5) On this occasion, I was a member of the crew which flew parts of what we were told was a flying saucer to Fort Worth. The people on board included: Lt. Col. Payne Jennings, the Deputy Commander of the base; Lt. Col. Robert I. Barrowclough; Maj. Herb Wunderlich; and Maj. Jesse Marcel. Capt. William E. Anderson said it was from a flying saucer. After we arrived, the material was transferred to a B-25. I was told they were going to Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio.

(6) I was involved in loadng the B-29 with the material, which was wrapped in packages with wrapping paper. One of the pieces was triangle-shaped, about
2 1/2 feet across the bottom. The rest were in small packages, about the size of a shoe box. The brown paper was held with tape.

(7) The material was extremely lightweight. When I picked it up, it was just like picking up an empty package. We loaded the triangle-shaped package and three shoe box-sized packages into the plane. All of the packages could have fit into the trunk of a car.

(8) After we landed at Fort Worth, Col Jennings told us to take care of maintenance of the plane and that after a guard was posted, we could eat lunch. When we came back from lunch, they told us they had transferred the material to a B-25. They told us the material was a weather balloon, but I'm certain it wasn't a weather balloon. I think the government should let the people know what's going on.

(9) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection.

Signed: Robert R. Porter
June 7, 1991

Signature witnessed by:
Ruth N. Ford 6/7/91


At 3:10 PM. AP goes national, in Albuquerque, AP reporter Jason Kellahin and photographer/wire technician are dispatched to Roswell to cover the story.

At 3:11 PM. No word from the Pentagon (AP Release)


"The war department in Washington had nothing to say immediately about the reported find."


At 3:16 PM. Another UP teletype:


FRR (Sante Fe UP Office) 8
(SUB)
ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO---THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICE OF THE 509TH BOMB
GROUP OF THE ROSWELL ARMY AIR BASE REPORTS THAT IT HAS RECEOVERED A
"FLYING DISC" AND THAT IT IS BEING FLOWN IN A SUPERFORTRESS TO
"HIGHER HEADQUARTERS" FOR STUDY.

ARMY OFFICIALS AT THE ROSWELL BASE WILL NOT DISCLOSE THE LOCATION
OF THE "HIGHER HEADQUARTERS."

SHERIFF GEORGE WILCOX (CORRECT) OF ROSWELL WAYS THAT THE DISC WAS
FOUND ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO BY A RANCHER BY THE NAME OF W. W. BRIZELL

ON THE FOSTER RANCH NEAR CORONA, ABOUT 75 MILES NORTHWEST OF ROSWELL
NEAR THE CENTER OF NEW MEXICO.

SHERIFF WILCOX SAYS THE RANCHER DOES NOT HAVE A TELEPHONE, AND
THAT HE DID NOT REPORT FINDING THE DISC UNTIL DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY.
SHERIFF WILCOX SAYS THAT BRIZELL SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
IT WAS, BUT THAT AT FIRST IT APPEARED TO BE A WEATHER METER. (Note that this is after Brazel was in military custody, and the Sheriff was well aware of this military custody)

HOWEVER, OFFICIALS AT THE ROSWELL ARMY AIR BASE WERE NOTIFIED,
AND AN OFFICER AND AN ENLISTED MAN CAME TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE
TO CLAIM THE OBJECT. (Thus we have press confirmation of debris being taken to the Sheriff’s office)

SHERIFF WILCOX QUOTES BRIZELL AS SAYING THAT "IT MORE OR LESS
SEEMED LIKE TINFOIL." WILCOX SAYS THAT BRIZELL SAID THAT THE DIXC
WAS BROKEN SOME, APPARENTLY FROM THE FALL. THE SHERIFF SAYS THAT BRIZELL

DESCRIBED THE OBJECT (large piece of debris, remember that an intact craft wasn’t found at the Brazel site) ABOUT AS LARGE AS A SAFE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HE ADDED THAT THE SAFE WAS ABOUT THREE AND ONE-HALF BY FOUR

FEE. (Again, Brazel at this time is in military custody and will soon publicly recant his story as ordered)
-0-
(DXR
WILL HV ANOTHER ADD IN ABT 5 OR 10 MINWS.)
V7/8


For the next few minutes, a few quick teletypes as the base press release is confirmed.

Sometime between 3:17 PM and 3:22 PM the following UP teletype: (just more confirmation of Marcel’s whereabouts and plans to return)


NAJ DXR (Denver UP Office)
FYI, ROSWELL REPORTS TT MAJOR JESSE A. MARCEL, INTELLIGENCE
OFFICER FOR 509TH BOMBER GROUP AT ROSWELL ARMY AIR BASE, IS IN FORT WORTH,
TEX., AT 8TH ARMY HDQUARTERS, "IF HE HANT ALREADY STARTED BACK FOR
ROWELL." SUGG U GET DA IN ON IT FASTEST. TT MITE BE WHERE DISC
WAS FLOWN.
FRR V7/8


Calls come into Roswell from all over the world as the press release hits the various news wires.

Marcel is in Ramey's office with some of the debris. The general wants to see where the debris was found. Marcel accompanies him to the map room. Once Ramey is satisfied, they walk back to the general's office, but the debris is gone. In its place is a ripped-apart weather balloon with debris scattered on the floor. (according to Marcel in interviews). This is also corroborated by then Colonel (now retired as a Brig. General) Thomas Dubose (in his affidavit): (note that Dubose is the usually unnamed man in these photos)


(7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press.


Also, for the skeptics criticizing Marcel, or his rep within the military…


Besides Dubose independently corroborating Roswell intelligence officer Major Jesse Marcel's story of a weather balloon cover-up, Dubose's subsequent actions also lend to Marcel's credibility. Dubose recommended Marcel for promotion to Lt. Colonel in the Air Force Reserve several months later, along with Roswell base commander Col. Blanchard. Dubose also co-signed Blanchard's highly laudatory evaluation of Marcel the following spring and recommended Marcel attend Air Command and Staff School. (click here to view document) Similarly Gen. Ramey a few months later wrote that he thought Marcel command officer material. (click here to view document) If Dubose (or Ramey) had any doubts about Marcel's competency following the encounter in Ramey's office, it isn't evident in Marcel's record.


http://roswellproof.homestead.com/du...ml#anchor_3254

At 3:42 PM. A UP wire:


FRR (Santa Fe UP Office) 8
EEDITORS; PLEASE SUB FOR 5TH PGH AND REMAINDER OF FRRE8
-0-
HOWEVER, OFFICIALS AT THE ROSWELL ARMY AIR BASE WERE NOTIFIED
IMMEDIATELY BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. MAJOR JESSE A. MARCEL---
INTELLIGENCE OFFICER OF THE ROSWELL BASE---AND AN ENLISTED MAN THEN
CHECKED WITH THE SHERIFF.
SHERIFF WILCOX QUOTED BRIZELL AS SAYING THAT "IT MORE OR LESS
SEEMED LIKE TINFOIL." WILCOX SAID THAT BRIZELL
RELATED THAT THE DISC WAS BROKEN SOMEWHAT---APPARENTLY FROM THE FALL.
THE SHERIFF SAID THAT BRIZELL DESCRIBED THE OBJECT ABOUT AS LARGE
AS A SAFE IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HE ADDED THAT THE SAFE WAS ABOUT
THREE AND ONE-HALF BY FOUR FEET.
BRIZELL DID NOT BRING THE OBJECT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT
MERELY DROVE THE 75 MILES FORM THE RANCH TO ROSWELL TO REPORT HIS
FINDING. SHERIFF WILCOX SAID THAT MAJOR MARCEL LEFT SHORTLY AFTER
RECEIVING THE REPORT FOR THE AREA WHERE THE DISC WAS FOUND.
MEANWHILE, A REPORT FROM CARRIZOZO, NEW MEXICO, SAID THAT A DISC
WAS FOUND 35 MILES SOUTHEAST OF CORONA. THE REPORT---WHICH WAS NOT
SUBSTANTIATED---MERELY SAID THAT IT WAS "A RUBBER SUBSTANCE AND
TINFOIL ENCASE." HOWEVER, IT WAS PRESUMED TO BE THE SAME AS THE
ONE REPORTED TO ROSWELL. (Given this location, seems to be the Foster Ranch, i.e. Brazel’s site)
REPORTS FROM THE ROSWELL BASE SAID THAT MAJOR MARCEL WAS AT
EIGHTH ARMY HEADQUARTERS IN FORT WORTH, TEXT, BUT THAT "HE MIGHT
BE ON HIS WAY BACK TO ROSWELL BY PLANE NOW." HOWEVER, OFFICIALS
AT THE ROSWELL BASE SAY THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE DISC OR ITS
DESCRIPTIONG, OR WHERE THE "HIGHER HEADQUARTERS" WHERE IT REPORTEDLY
WAS TAKEN ARE LOCATED.
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At 3:53 PM. Roger Ramey announces that the flying disk has been sent on to Wright Field near Dayton, Ohio. This is where Ramey is officially involved in the story. This also shows that Ramey had already spoken with the Pentagon by this time. In Fort Worth, reporter/photographer J. Bond Johnson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram is dispatched to Fort Worth AAF to cover the story.

At 4:02 PM. AP has put together its first full story. It appears in western evening newspapers (such as the Los Angeles Herald-Express and the Seattle Times), but is too late (6:02pm) for the east coast and central papers. Starts like this (from the AP teletype)


"Albuquerque, N. M. The army air forces has gained possession of a flying disk, Lt. Warren Haught, public information officer at Roswell army airfield, announced today.”





More men arrive at the debris field and are assigned to assist in cleaning it. Soldiers with wheelbarrows move across the field, tossing in the debris. When the wheelbarrows are filled, the soldier take the debris to collection points. The debris is then loaded into covered trucks to be driven into Roswell.

At 5:03 PM. The Pentagon starts to hint at the weather balloon explanation. (from an AP internal teletype)

At 5:30 PM. a solution for the mystery is offered by Major E. M. Kirton who tells the Dallas Morning News that a balloon is responsible for all the excitement. An AP teletype also reports:


"Fort Worth Roswell's celebrated 'flying disk' was rudely stripped of its glamor by a Fort Worth army airfield weather officer who late today identified the object as a weather balloon."


Warrant Officer Irving Newton is ordered from the weather office at the Fort Worth Army Air Field to Ramey's office. Newton, in front of a small number of reporters and officers of the Eighth Air Force, identifies the wreckage on the office floor as a balloon. He is photographed and then sent back to his regular duties. (from statements by Newton)

At 6:17 PM. the FBI sends a Teletype message to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover telling him that a balloon is responsible for the reports. It is on its way to Dayton for examination by army air force experts. This is of course, well after the coverup story has been put into motion. (this document was released under FOIA) This is an early indication that Mogul is to be the cover story. But, the teletype also shows that the radar reflector story was different from what Wright Field was saying. (note the following phrase: "but ... telephonic conversation between their office and Wright Field had not borne out this belief.")

The 1994/95 Air Force report on Roswell quoted the first part of this teletype, about the object resembling a weather balloon/radar reflector, but curiously omitted the part about phone conversation with Wright Field giving a different assessment of the debris. Of course, we’ve still got the matter of why so much fuss if it’s a weather balloon? (even if Mogul?) As even the skeptics will agree, Mogul contained no materials that were classified, only the objective of Mogul was classified. Surely asap flights to the Army’s top War Materiel bases wouldn’t be arranged for balsa wood, tin foil, and neoprene…Here's the teletype.





At 7:30P.M. the AP breaks into its last message with a bulletin telling the world that the Roswell flying disk is nothing more than a balloon.
Ramey, with the identity of the wreckage established in the public arena, announces to the world that the officers at Roswell had been fooled by a weather balloon. Ramey also appears on Fort Worth-Dallas radio station WBAP. One can only imagine what’s going through the officers’ heads back at Roswell. Then again, they know they are following orders.

An unscheduled flight from Boiling Field (Washington, D.C.) arrives. Lewis Rickett meets it at Roswell and gives the crew a sealed box with wreckage in it. He is required to get a signature before he can surrender it.

At 10:00 PM. ABC News "Headline Edition" tells the audience that Roger Ramey has identified the Roswell wreckage as a weather balloon.

At 11:59 PM. one of the photographs taken by J. Bond Johnson is transmitted to New York on the news wire.





One of Bond’s photos, showing General Ramey and Col. Thomas Dubose. (the red box is to show where the Ramey memo below came from)



Check this small print from the original Ramey memo



I still find it hilarious that all the while, when he’s posing for pics with substituted debris, all to debunk the story, little does he realize that eventually, technology will be able to read the damning memo held in his hand, which tells a different story of what really happened.

However, with the public now breathing a sigh of relief, confident that the military has fully investigated and that there are no little men from Mars…the story dies and fades away into history, not unlike other such early UFO incidents. That is of course, until years later when researchers start to discover clues to this fascinating story. With the story then back in public view, more and more come forward…(along with those out to capitalize on it as well, and who are less than truthful).

Still, for all the frauds who’ve tarnished the event, they simply pale in comparison to the overwhelming evidence, testimony from military officers, documents referencing Roswell, and of course, some of the major changes in defense that came about in response to this event.

to be continued.....................