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    Take 2 - fucked it up first time

    I knew I had this somewhere - a mental, (possibly somewhat overblown), review of the monumental Wu-Forever. It came from an indy-rockish music mag from the UK. Back when Wu ruled the world. (Love that bit about GZA - 'He might have been wanting to wash the car instead, but he can't. It's simply out of his control. He has been called.') (had to scan it and convert from pdf so a bit jumbled in places)


    'THE EPIC story is always told like this. It has its villains, its unseen forces, its hidden evils manipulating the players against their will. It has its moments of love and redemption; its heroes and its bystanders who can only note their valour and receive their wisdom. It has the power to see the big picture but also to scan the small-time, and to turn the apparently insignificant into something of huge importance. And, of course, this being an epic, it will take a long, long time to unfold...

    The second album from Shaolin Island, the unofficial sixth borough of New York City, is just such an epic. Thirty songs of heroism, humour, violence and dynastic intrigue from a group with minds filled with the staples of B-movies: mad professors, scientific experiments gone wrong, cross and double-cross, cults, martial arts and secret signs; a sequel to a genre-defining work. Four years in arriving, yet held up as a consistently tantalising prospect through a stream of huge-selling side projects from its members, the second Wu-Tang Clan album pitches itself as nothing less
    than the definitive work to embrace those solo chapters, lf albums by Method Man, Genius, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon and 0l‘ Dirty Bastard were the Gospels, then this is meant to be the Good Book. And what it contains is The Knowledge.

    Ridiculous, this could easily be. But so wide-reaching is the Wu-Tang Clans extended family (Ol' Dirty has even done a duet with Mariah Carey), so ceaselessly inventive their style, and so uncompromising their business
    attitudes, you almost unthinkingly believe all that is trumpeted about their mastery. A little perspective:Snoop Doggy Dogg is a gangsta. The Wu-Tang Clan are 11 interdependent superheroes gifted with Islamic religious fervour,
    unquestionable skill in martial arts, numerology and mathematics, with mafiosi soubriquets and a hotline to The Truth. They've thought about this.

    They set themselves up as gods, and all we are required to do is heed their wisdom. There's a tape-recorded conversation near the end of the album that simply states their case: “Shorty,” asks a Clanvoice, "why you going to
    summer school? Pick up the Wu-Tan double album. It's got all the education you need for a year." Well... close. ‘Wu-Tang Forever’ is both unforgettably huge, and bested in a righteous fervour that proclaims how the Clan can save the world, but also assailed at its fringes by the paranoia that plays on an expanding empire.

    Wu-Tang have created new channels for hip-hop: when each member having only one name threatens to restrict their style, they invent new ones; whenever the limitations of personal experience limit a song's point of view, the mic is passed; whenever this bombardment of shifting perspectives threatens to disturb its focus, they have the RZA's
    production, and the one set of drums that thumps insistently throughout the album. But this continuity is both gift and poison chalice to the Clan: having made it their own, they were unprepared to have it stolen, and so spend a disproportionately large chunk of their time restating their commitment to destroying all who would steal their ideas.

    Meanwhile, the century hurtles to its close. The four years between ‘Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)‘ and ‘Wu-Tang Forever‘ is branded on the album; the knowledge that the next may not appear ‘til after the year 2000 weighted by the sounds of a band attempting to address the world as they see it in the prelude to the new century, broiled in a suffocating pre-millennial tension. The vibe is pestilential - the Clan almost exclusively described in religious terms throughout, brought in like the
    superheroes they emulate, to save the day against unwinnable odds. The fantastic ‘For Heaven's Sake’ sets the tone. "Now all pay tribute to this entity," the GZA intones. "From this elite fleet/l was appointed/To strike the vital nerve". He might have been wanting to wash the car instead, but he can't. It's simply out of his control. He has been called.

    What Wu-Tang bring to this situation is, superficially, The Knowledge. 'Superficially' because The Knowledge doesn't really amount to much more than what has been stated in the music of Curtis Mayfield, Gil Scott-Heron, Marvin Gaye's ‘What's Goin' On’, or by Public Enemy: that the vortex of poverty, and the perceived escape of drugs, guns and black-on-black violence substitutes progress for trinkets; for money, mobiles and cars.

    What the Wu do, though, is define their terms and deal with stories in a vivid documentary style: seamlessly weaving in political background, conspiracy and as-it-happens action. There's a song called 'lmpossible'. ln the background, a soulful female vocal laments while information is
    telegraphed in from a larger perspective. The song then cuts to Ghostface Killah on the ground, next to his friend who's just been shot. He snatches a mobile phone to call 911 for help, but the batteries are flat and by the time the ambulance arrives, his friend is dead. The camera moves away and a voice announces that, "What my friend here is trying to say, is that this is just a story: a story from The Real".

    Their eye for detail is as flawless as their style is verbose. lf the Wu-Tang style (the feeling, essentially, of hearing facts from an encyclopaedia, not edited, but simply compressed into a smaller space) has a defining moment on this album, it's ‘Scary Hours/Cash Still Rules’, where Ghostface Killah is in mid-flow and the music simply... runs out, leaving him to continue his high-pitched staccato until RZAfades him out; but elsewhere their eye is cast over eveiything from the stripes on Nike trainers to edible underwear, to coconut oil. Which is, it you were wondering, "The real Body Shop shit".

    This is what makes ‘Wu-Tang Forever’ and its quest for peace the more effective. lt never makes its judgement before prowling the area first: making its observations from close-up, then withdrawing to consider, rather than preaching from a safe, sententious distance. The effect is frequently magnificent. Whereas RZA's production on solo albums by Clan members is a display of discemibly individual and complex invention each time, here it is pared down to a simplicity he has described as just "noises with drums", an emptier canvas on which the full complement of the Wu-Tang can exercise their styles. The mellifiuous GZA, smooth and lisping Method Man, jabbering Ghostface Killah... when they set to work over five closely-related tracks (‘The City‘, The Projects‘, ‘Bells Of War’, ‘Little Ghetto Boys‘ and ‘A Better Tomorrow’), their contributions reach new heights of poignancy and eloquence.

    The themes for these songs is analogous to the Wu‘s own discipline for ‘Wu-Tang Forever to expand on what you have, you have to consolidate your strengths and take new initiatives. So just as RZA allows his proteges (most successfully 4th Dlsclple on ‘Better Tomorrow‘) a hand in the production, introduces the might of Cappadonna, and squashes the input of OI’ Dirty Bastard, so these songs introduce the idea of family and responsibility; that against the desolation and the poverty, plans must be made for the future.

    The rhymes are stunning. "Youths are injected with serums, that lead to skin irritations/Babies are bom with disfigurations”. While in the projects: "It lightly begins to rain/Screams of terror/Are hidden by passing trains".

    The epic ends messily. Two hours of further education (with all that implies: some wasted time, some abstract debate, some knowledge absorbed) later, the Wu sit back, happy that they have the world's problems sewn up. They
    have sat with the little man, seen his plight and comported themselves like divine beings in his presence, showing him the way forward, knowing that this is all you need.

    It isn't quite. The Wu isn't all you need. But for all the red herrings, the confusion, and the periodic offence, ‘Wu-Tang Forever‘ is like that other epic. Yeah, it shows you the war. But it also tries its hand at peace.

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    I remember being in 7th grade when Forever came out. Every bad ass kid was talking about it. Even here in the Bay Area. I remember kids bringing the CD and booklet to school. For the next couple of months, EVERY fucking thing was WU related. Their merchandise and logo was everywhere. Kids would tag badly-drawn WU logos on their binders. I tagged the words "Wu-Tang Forever" at the entrance of the school in pencil (I was too scared to do it with a marker.) Ever so often you'd hear a kid say "I bomb atomically!!" and nobody knew the rest. Kids would quiz each other to see if they could name the generals. My buddies had the Playstation game. I remember watching BET and MTV all day just waiting for "Triumph." I remember visiting those old Wu-Tang websites fans would make on Geocities. Wu Wear was extremely hard to find here so I drew the WU symbol on my P.E. sneakers. In art class, I made a Wu-Tang window sun catcher and gave it to a girl, haha. For 4 months, the Wu-Tang Clan was my generations Beatles.

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    that review makes me want to listen to the album again. the part where RZA says "this is all the education you need this year" always made me laugh, but in a way, it was true. artistically, spiritually, intellectually -- it was a perfect blend.

    damn, only 4 months? 1997 was the Wu's biggest year for sure. the album debuted at #1, went platinum pretty damn quick, and went on to sell 4 or 5 million copies. that Triumph music video was on MTV 24/7, it was sick. the kids in my school never recited lyrics, they just bought it cuz it was the "cool thing to do." everybody had a copy. Method Man was the most popular member at the time. funny thing is, I made a Wu logo in my woodshop class too haha. I miss those days.

    while we're on the topic...which MC dominated that album? it's either Ghost or Deck. in other words, which verse was better: Deck's Triumph or Ghost's Impossible? both classics

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    to me four MCs stood out on forever : deck, ghost, rae & rza....
    overall ill give it to ghost, but for the better verse it has to be ins

    if beautifulrock happens to check this thread : this is what im talkin about review-wise : insight given, points made. no need to substract 0.1 for each "mistake". just UNDERSTANDING the lyrics and the music and seeing it as a whole from a higher perspective.

    STREET CORNER, by MANO

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    I came across this interesting article where this dude talks about the album's post-release success. he's a bit too harsh, especially since the record did go quadruple platinum, but he nailed it when he said Wu fans reached their capacity prematurely. but Puffy and Bad Boy should be blamed too for molesting the rap game. it hasn't recovered since.

    http://planetill.com/2011/08/the-wu-...ed-to-connect/

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    I prefer Ghost's verse on Impossible to Deck's triumph.

    Man this album's insane.

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    good review but mad misinformation in there, obviously not a huge Wu listener that wrote that review... Quoting Masta Killa lyrics and saying theyre Gzas or calling Shaolin "the unofficial 6th burrough" it is the official 5th burrough

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    this is a 3-part documentary by MTV around the time wu tang forever came out in 1997... goddamn these motherfuckers were huge.






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    what are the keys to being a ninja?

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    Dope review.

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    After reading Breaststroke & Butterfly's long-ass yet awesome description of the impact the album had on him back in 1997, I thought more people would do the same, but you guys ain't saying shit. how old were some of y'all in '97?? damn

    anyway, I dusted off the album today and gave it another listen. a few things I noticed:

    1. it's preachy as fuck! not saying that's a bad thing (I love me some 5% NOI teachings), but opening up an album with a 6 and a half minute lecture seems a little odd to me. I'd love to know what the hell people thought when they heard that shit back in '97. also, they name drop "Allah" in a few songs, but I guess that's not a big deal in pre-9/11 America.

    2. it's the most unconventional rap record to debut at #1 on the billboards -- just like KID A is the most unconventional rock record to go to number one. for one thing, the beats are gritty and soulful as fuck. no Puffy/Mase bullshit. the lyrics are too intelligent for the casual listener ("I bomb atomically") and the 5% slang must've went right over motherfuckers heads ("my Old Earth"). I can just picture people going "dude...what does he mean the earth is OLD?" *shakes head*

    3. Shyheim is on the fucking record! though he doesn't rap. he should've though! he just says "I'm studying 120, call me back at the God Hour" (another 5% reference that went over people's head) on the track "The Projects." why RZA didn't put him on the record is beyond me.

    4. the second disc is better than the first disc. I don't know why so many people prefer the first disc. yeah "Reunited" is a good track, but "Triumph" shits all over it. the second disc has more flavor, more personality, more charisma. even the 2-minute intro with RZA talking about people biting Wu's style is better.

    5. Inspectah Deck produced track #5...unfortunately. it's not bad, but it doesn't do the lyrics justice. it's too generic. Rae comes in hard ("like 7 butcher knives, hair itchy like lice"), but the beat underwhelms the lyrics. the beat makes the lyrics feel bad about themselves.

    6. not much filler. this is simply the best double-album I've ever heard from hip-hop music. you'd be hard-pressed to get rid of some of the tracks. you might hate it, but someone else might love it...... although "Black Shampoo" is a little odd

    7. it's pretty damn misogynistic! I'm not really considered about the "plight of women," and I could care less if they get shitted on (Eminem does it all the time), but I've read a few reviews where the critics brought that up as a negative, especially Ghost's verse on The Projects, not to mention the tracks Maria and Dog Shit.

    there's a lot more things I can add, like how underrated the track Little Ghetto Boys is, how Rae is all over the record, how gay U-God looks in the inside booklet pic, and how Ghost and INS murder almost every track they're on....but I'll leave that for you to discover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theheavens View Post
    Not much filler. this is simply the best double-album I've ever heard from hip-hop music.

    Ghost and INS murder almost every track they're on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theheavens View Post
    this is a 3-part documentary by MTV around the time wu tang forever came out in 1997... goddamn these motherfuckers were huge.

    goddamn man good find. I've never even seen this!

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    Cool Reviews

    This album was the Apex of Wu-Fever or whatever you wanna call it, I remember around when this shit came out, I grew up in Tampa Florida and even down here everywhere you looked there was some kid rocking Wu Wear, banging this album hard, even the white kids, every skate boarding, Wallet Chain Rocking, Drugged out Alternative white kid I knew in High School was on some "I'm not really into rap, but I love Wu Tang" type shit

    Massive crossover appeal during the "Forever" Era, I'm pretty sure they even Toured with Rage Against The Machine around then

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    good lookin on the mtv pieces. i had all that shit on vhs but lost em thru the years.

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