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    http://www.thetroyblog.com/2012/03/14/wu-tang-forever/

    From the t.r.o.y blog - nice artwork if you click da link. Haven't seen this here before but not checking in to this site so much - which maybe proves the point. A bit.

    Who ever thought we’d see the day our beloved Wu Tang members would desperately cling for relevancy? There is no denying the Wu is one of the greatest, most influential and successful groups of all-time. Growing up there was point when every Wu release was met with tremendous excitement and copped with ease. Even the Wu affiliates were copped, every one from Shyheim to GP Wu to Killarmy all the way to Royal Fam.
    They’ve been responsible for a plethora of classics, both solo and collective efforts. But if we’re all being honest here, we know the last release that was truly worthy of its praise was the ’09 Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Pt. II. Way before that and certainly well after, there hasn’t been much and when I say before that, I meant for a long period of time. Once the dust settled and the hype dissolved, we later realized albums such as 8 Diagrams or the 11 year old Iron Flag were simply not up to par. They were not how we wanted to remember the Wu.
    The internet is no stranger to the Wu phenomenon. Ever since the dawn of Al Gore’s creation, Wu Tang has had one of the most substantial followings to exist online. Kids all over the globe know Wu Tang is for the children. From Nova Scotia all the way to Slovenia, they come in droves to see them perform and if they’re lucky they may just get half of them to appear. It has pained me to see what has become of their careers lately. Each passing year their careers dwindle, suffering from obscurity, inactivity, inconsistency and occasionally, embarrassing career decisions (desperation collabos).
    The best analogy I can make of this is Michael Jordan to some extent. Michael Jordan was unstoppable, he was the greatest. MJ had quite a few hiatuses in his career. Several times he battled retirement until one day his ego got the best of him and then so did father time.
    After some years off, Jordan decided the hunger was still there, but more importantly it was the need to prove to himself, as well as the naysayers he still was Michael Jordan. The game changed. The rules changed. The talent changed. Here were new kids coming right out of high school top billin’. It ate him up and while all the newbs were getting the shine, he felt he too could compete at a high level. It was important to reestablish himself and remind everyone he fathered their style.
    He gave the comeback a shot and while he had some memorable moments, his return didn’t help keep his legacy in tact. In fact, many will argue it tarnished his career a bit. It was Rocky coming out of retirement to fight in his late 40′s.
    It was Robert Dinero just taking any ol’ script these days. It was George Lucas messing with the Star Wars franchise. It was watching that late-50′s, once attractive woman squeeze into a pair of True Religions. We all desperately wanted Mike to be the same guy. We wanted him to drop 30 nightly, hit the game winner shot and just straight dunk on fools. Nobody likes to remix found memories, but the reality was Michael Jordan was a shell of his former self.
    His body just would not do what his mind wanted it. He was disconnected for too long. He was just old. This is what happens with rappers too. The most important decision an athlete or musician has to make in their career is when its time to walk away.
    Method Man was last been seen in The Sitter with Johan Hill and who can forget his latest hip-hop contribution, a Sour Patch Kids song?
    Raekwon was last seen shouting out Mac Miller on Twitter before jumping on a Mac Miller golden era remix along side Posdnous, desperately hoping to once again revive his career.
    Ghostface Killah recently gained a lot of weight and bleached his skin white. He is better known as Action Bronson. When in Black skin, he continues to tease everyone with this “it’s coming soon” MF Doom collabo and/or his wonderful R&B experimental albums.
    Inspectah Deck has threatened to retire multiple times over the years due to his lackluster album sales. He blamed the fans but recently teamed up with lyrical assassin M.C. Esoteric for a project.
    U-God can be found posting on Philaflava, or stalking ladies via social media dropping that “I’m the man behind Black Shampoo line.”
    Masta Killa is still making forgettable music with the indie Nature Sounds.
    Ol’ Dirty Bastard died but still has unauthorized collaborations being releases sporadically.
    GZA, when he isn’t beefing with 50 Cent can found putting somebody to sleep or performing Liquid Swords in full at a Rock The Bells concert nearest you.
    RZA is perfectly content, filthy rich and is best friends with Quentin Tarantino and David Duchovny, which has now hired him to appear on Californication. Did I mention he gets to fuck Meagan Good on the show? RZA doesn’t feel the need to prove himself or carry the Wu anymore. Whom he also feels are a bunch of ingrates.
    Did they stay in the game too long? –Philaflava

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    "Ghostface Killah recently gained a lot of weight and bleached his skin white. He is better known as Action Bronson."

    haha that's pretty funny. but in all seriousness, the guy should've done him homework a bit more. GZA is giving lectures at prestige universities and is working on a new album, Ghost is planning on blessing us with Supreme Clientele 2 (summer?), and Rae is working 24/7 and probably working on a new album for the year (CL III?). RZA...we all know he's doing good; debut film coming out (Man with the Iron Fists) and appearing in Tarantino's slavery movie (Django Unchained) in 2012.

    Deck and Masta Killa may or may not release their respective albums this year. I'm interested in Deck's The Rebellion...could be hot. and Meth is doing his acting thing, and working on his [final] album.

    hell, as long as Ghost release that Blue & Cream (aka, Clientele 2) album this year, that's all that matters. sure, the MF Doom record would be dope too, but Ghost has been working on that sequel for over a year and is constantly listening to beats for the record. he said it's going to be monster...and I believe him

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    reach

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    ^around -



    in a wu-relation, that piece was like a lil comedy jibe!


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    Iron flag is that shit. GTFOH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Universo View Post
    Iron flag is that shit. GTFOH
    You must have an ultra-rare remix album that hasnt been released yet, you're alone in THAT sentiment. Iron Flag was a HUGE letdown after The W's strong follow-up to FOREVER. Song for song The W nods more heads and has more quoted (and played!) verses than Iron Flag does!

    NOBODY says "Remember Ghost's verse on 'Back in the Game? He JAPPED!"

    but "Protect Ya Neck", "Let My Niggas Live", and "Careful" have been picked apart by critics and nearly always mentioned when good Wu songs are mentioned.
    weep for lost babylon,
    the bleeding god, the forgotten sheep slaughtered in a forest of evil fog
    bordered by a sea of faults,
    fleeing mobs turn to see the holocaust and become kings and queens of salt
    screaming shots, police and chalk,
    wingless fallen demons walking among us as people...

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    Don't agree with any of this. Also: Iron Flag is a good album.

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    Too idiotic to respond to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .5KutSkeleton View Post
    You must have an ultra-rare remix album that hasnt been released yet, you're alone in THAT sentiment. Iron Flag was a HUGE letdown after The W's strong follow-up to FOREVER. Song for song The W nods more heads and has more quoted (and played!) verses than Iron Flag does!

    NOBODY says "Remember Ghost's verse on 'Back in the Game? He JAPPED!"

    but "Protect Ya Neck", "Let My Niggas Live", and "Careful" have been picked apart by critics and nearly always mentioned when good Wu songs are mentioned.
    Yes who cares. Iron Flag wasn't that good, it was a good album but compared to other Wu albums it was bad and yes I think 8 Diagrams is a lot better than Iron Flag. Back in the Game had the best Wu-Tang verse ever spit by GZA. That was extremely clever and I can't think of a Wu verse better than GZA's Back in the Game verse.

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    the dopest thing about Iron Flag was the art cover. let's be real

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    naw the title track was fucking ill, so was the bonus track 'The W'

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    ODB wasn't on Iron Flag. So....

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